America will never recover as long as Obama is President.

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  1. SiliconMagician

    SiliconMagician Banned

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    The verdict is in. Every single one of Obama's economic policies is a miserable failure. It is time to admit it liberals and stop blaming Bush.

    Sure, the Bush administration may have started the recession. But Obama had every possible, conceivable chance to fix the economy. Every single chance was afforded him. It is not Bush's fault that we have not recovered. There is no excuse.

    Obama was not put in an FDR like situation where we can afford to just take nearly a decade to fix the economic problems. The economic problems need fixed NOW. Not in a year, not in 2 years. RTFN.

    Get it?

    Obama's, and by extension all left leaning/liberal/progressive economic remedies suck and are failures and must be reversed. Since that can't happen under Obama, America can never recover in any meaningful way as long as he is President.

    http://www.commentarymagazine.com/2012/05/04/very-ugly-jobs-report-obama-economy/

    Exactly.

    Obamanomics is nothing but a show.

    Prove raising taxes on the wealthy won't do a thing to help or put a dent in the debt and would nothing but a shallow symbolic act? Liberals don't care they want revenge cause they are vengeful little turd brains.

    Prove that Obama's "energy policy" is destructive to the entire energy sector of the American economy and "green jobs" was just a shallow symbolic act? No matter. It's the intention that counts, not the results.

    Prove that Obama's foreign policy is nothing but Bush Redux but without the strength of purpose and dedication to the cause? That's okay, as long as Obama can keep making shallow, symbolic gestures that do nothing. It's the intention that counts.

    I wish liberals would understand that good intentioned policy isn't worth (*)(*)(*)(*) unless it gets immediate and gratifying results.

    We don't have time to wait for Obama to "have more breathing space" in a 2nd term. Either he fixes the economy before the election or he should be tossed out on his ass and elect someone who understands that the rich and upper middle class grow the economy. Almost everyone else is just a drain. Hell the rich and upper middle class ARE the economy, everyone else is just a useless after thought.
     
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    lizarddust Well-Known Member

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    There you go folks, straight from the horse's mouth.

    80% (or so) of America's population is a drain, an after thought, not worthy of licking SilicanMagician's boot soles.

    Time to pack your bags, find anything that floats or sea worthy and paddle for greener shores.I'm told Mongolia is nice this time of year.
     
  3. PatrickT

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    What 80%? I don't understand that.

    President Obama has no desire for America to recover. He hasn't finished taking advantage of the crisis created by progressives. There is still a Congress and a Supreme Court so he's obviously not done, yet.
     
  4. lizarddust

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    So you agree with SilicanMagician?

    I'm just plucking a conservative figure out of the air. What percentage of the population in America is middle and working class?

    (I see you edited your post while I was replying)

    And,,, WTF is a progressive?
     
  5. Mr_Truth

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    "America will never recover [from the Republican created debacle] as long as Obama is President.

    If a Republican had not been in the White House after Clinton we would never have had this problem. Thanks for admitting it! :)
     
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    Democrat = Republican
    Romney = Obama
    Republican Lemming voting for "Lesser of Two Evils" = Democrat Lemming voting for "Lesser of Two Evils"

    Start blaming the generation that solely voted based on party and not on Principle nor ideology... Not the new Overlord of the American Debt Slave Camps.
     
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    Better vote for Ron Paul then, because Romney is the same thing as Obama.
     
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    O must go
     
  9. SiliconMagician

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    Aren't you "fully educated scholars" the ones constantly bandying about that the top 25% of households have ALL THE WEALTH? and everyone else has a tiny sliver?

    If that is the case, then the people with all the wealth are doing all the spending in our economy, and most of everyone else are useless.

    The people who actually have the money are what matter economically. Everyone else is just along for the ride.
     
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    How unfortunate for you that everyone else still gets to vote, then.
     
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    I don't actually think that the US president has much control over American economic trends. I think he's just the guy that gets the blame when times are bad and the credit when times are good.

    He's the whipping boy and the cupcake boy rolled into one.
     
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    Yes, I have to agree, that it has been rather unpleasant with Mr. Obama as President. Iraq War ended. Osama B. dead. Israel not invading Lebanon, Khadafi gone, Libyan and Egyptian democracy taking place, Afghanistan stablized, War on terror ending, Good relations with Russia and China. Reductions of Nuclear material and negotiations to reduce Nuclear arms.

    But it has not been that bad for Republicans has it? I mean, Gitmo was not closed down, and some people are still possibly being tortured somewhere. And NDAA 2012 was passed so all you patriotic non military serving Republicans can watch Democrats who did serve in the military get arrested by your new Corporate Mercenary Army called BlackWater.

    And the TeaParty threw out Republican Moderates and replaced them with Christian Evangelical Social Conservatives bent on establishing Christianity as National religion, and flaming up more war with Muslims in MiddleEast, so the War on Terror can never end, and terrorizing modern young women in USA with threats of punishment for Abortion, or use of Contraceptives.


    I almost wish that McCain and Bat@#%t crazy Palin had won, so that WW3 could have started in 2008 with the bomb, bomb, bombing of Iran.

    So this election, will be not much anxiety for me, because Romney, no matter how silly he may appear is not nearly as crazy as McCain (at least not yet). And Obama is not nearly as Marxist as some like to claim,nor really much interested in starting another war, nor interested in expanding Zion or totally biased in favor of Israel at expense of alienation of all other semitic people of the world.
     
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    "Libyan and Egyptian democracy taking place"

    If you consider AQ taking over Libya and the Muslim Brotherhood democracy...... Nevermind that Egypt that was friendly towards Israel is no longer....

    Afghanistan stabilizing? Are you kidding me?

    Relations with Russia and China improving? Hah.. You crack me up!
     
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    1. Are you really saying that having all the wealth is synonymous with having all the income? Yes or no?
    2. If not, are you still saying that having all the wealth is the same as spending all the wealth? Yes or no?
    3. If so, then do you believe that spending all the wealth means that you created all the wealth? Yes or no?
    4. If not, then what exactly are you meaning to imply by the above? Thanks.

    -Meta
     
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    Plucking figures out of the air sounds so much nicer than pulling them out of your ass. I don't know what percentage are working class but not nearly enough are working. Where to you put the millions on the dole? Are they working or middle-class.

    What is the impact on the economy of the almost half the households who pay no income tax? I would guess, not much in a positive way.

    And, "WTF is a progressive." Well, WTF Lizarddust, they used to be called liberals and they're sometimes called socialists or communists when people are being honest or they're called Republicans in the far north of New England. Of course, WTF, I don't think for a minute you don't know quite well what a progressive is.
     
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    I would like to see "foreign outsourcing" brought up as a issue this election, unless corps get their hand out of that Pandora's box, were all gonna be in trouble

    Bush did not address this, Obama has not addressed this... will Romney?
     
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    Wait. Aren't rich people making more money than ever before? And didn't Silicon say that rich people are the only ones that matter? Hence, by Silicon's standards, Obama is doing a good job, isn't he?
     
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    If you are NOT working you aren't working class and definitely not middle class.
     
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    I am only about 0.000001% African, mainly due to Australopithicus, and I was mislead into believing that Obama was a wanna-be commie, by naive Marxists and Anarchists.

    I now realize, that Obama is a wanna-be Capitalist, and wants naive Democrats to think that he is differnent than Romney with regard to taxation of the wealthy, and how dogs are treated.

    Its a very difficult decision. The Dog eater or the Dog Torturer.

    Since Obama was only a kid, when he ate his first dog, vs Romney being a full adult, when he tortured his first dog, I have to give the balance just slightly to Obama.

    If it comes out, however that Obama knowingly ate dog as an adult, and considering he did sign NDAA 2012, then I could possibly switch to voting for the Dog torturer, if Romney would take a vow to never carry dog as luggage.

    But that would be naive on my part, to think that a vow by Romney would mean anything.
     
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    Dog Eater vs. Dog Torturer...

    You know, that really does make this upcoming election sound much more interesting.

    I can only hope that Cesar Millan ends up as the moderator for the debates.
     
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    If Americans refuse to give Mr. Obama a second term as their president...

    They would be even more stupid that I thought...

    Replacing him with a Mr. Romney who is going to impose the same policies that got y'all -- and the rest of the world -- in this mess in the first place.

    Americans need to stop deluding themselves.

    The American presidential election of 2012 is of little meaning; what is of enormous importance for entire humanity is today's presidential election in France.

    In a strange twist over the last year or two, France has grown out into the leader of the free world. :omg:

    I know, very strange ~ but Mr. Hollande's election as President is far more important than any of Obama's presidential terms. Of course, I'm talking about the complete re-thinking of Euro-American relations and the consequences that will have on the world stage in relationship to restructering the global balance of power.
     
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    It's a good job you are not a dogmatic person , prone to making sweeping statements .
    I am a disabled Black Jew with a liking for Sharia Law .
    And I agree with the OP . Except :-
    That as America already is the number two power behind China , and soon to be in default unless China bails them out , we can safely say that America will never recover , whoever is in power . As it happens I would expect Obama to be fairly comfortably re=elected . But if Mitt does win , the country is as doomed , even with Goldman Sachs and JP Morgan behind him .
    I could be wrong if they find $40 trillion real money and not the Mickey Mouse variety .
    But like you , I am not dogmatic . ))
     
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    There is no way that "the Economy' can be permanently fixed .There is not one person , let alone Government , anywhere in the developed world that has offered any solution . Why you think Obama should be able to , starting May 6 th, , is beyond my understanding . Or , obviously , anybody else .
    You could in theory get a short term blip by a 5% dollar devaluation , 10% tax reduction for the bottom 80% ( say) of tax payers , plus a genuine imaginary money stimulus where every cent went to job creation and start up of major capital projects . Not one penny to the Banks .
    But it would solve nothing long term . Just get Obama re-elected and almost certainly have no long term beneficial effect .
    And I guess he will initiate something like that in the next few weeks .
    It is known as a stay of guaranteed execution .
     
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    I am not. I stand by every word of it.
     
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    What's comical is Obama has been blocked from passing a budget or passing any policies that he feels like would help America's economy. So basically what we are working with right now are Bush's policies, since Obama has not been able to change anything.

    The obstructionist Republican's are amazing at what they do. They block every effort to help the economy and then they complain about how bad the economy is. And of course, all their uneducated peons believe everything they are told!
     

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