Border Militia racist founder kills 4 including 15 month old baby

(*)(*)(*)(*)! I thought for a moment the '4' was a typo and the number was actually 400! Oh well, we can't have everything.

 

Those willing to give up liberty for security deserve neither and will lose both..

or something..

but really? That "I have nothing to hide" has to be the scariest 5 words in the English language.

"I have nothing to hide"..

so, enter my home and search at will
so, stop my car and search it at will
so, search me at will
so, bug my phone and listen at will
so, read my email
so invade every privacy I have.. just please, please keep me safe from the brown people who are crossing our boarders and ruining our country..(because 'papers please' and any other kind of liberty-revoking measure in the name of a faux safety doesn't hurt this country at all...)

amazing.. here I thought you were one of those "libertarian" types who wanted smaller government.. when it turns out, you want a HUGE government with massive reach since you have nothing to hide..

Why is it lefties like me want to keep our rights intact, even if someone who doesn't deserve them gets one every now and then, but righties wouldn't care if someone who did deserve them had them revoked if they felt safer...and that rightie, is the real patriot trying to save America?


you don't have to answer.. I had a little tangent there.. sorry. those 5 words are simply insane to me that's all..

 

classic two-faced response. not defending him huh?

 

you forgot that woman who also began a border militia group in Arizona. SHE killed a LITTLE GIRL also.

 

then dont be against the government surveillance of any kind. wait, Tea Party members have no backbone on that issue...

 

One thing that pisses me off is when I say something and the usual suspects* insists on posting what they think I said rather than what I said.

* Who and what are the usual suspect? ;' Usual suspects' is the name I give to those that constantly disagree with my threads and comments in a never failing manner, I do mean never. They are usually far, far, fringe left wing rabid leftists who are anti-west anti-religion, well anti-christian religion but pro-radical Islam, etc etc. The primary reason I use the term Usual Suspects instead of their sc name is to depersonalize my comments.

It would not surprise me one itoa if their real names turned up in the newspapers as terrorist bombers one day. So If Mac or MisLed etc say they are not supporting this guy who went berserk shooting everyone because of a DOMESTIC DISPUTE I believe them. Then what if they said that and this etc etc? People change their minds! Their posts may have been mis-read etc. Why not believe them??? If they are lying, and I don't think they are, the truth comes out soon enough.

reva

 

What concerns me about this thread is that it misses the point entirely. The nut killed everyone because of a DOMESTIC DISPUTE. It did not matter if he were a Nazi a skin head a Elks or Moose club member. The real reason that he murdered was because of a normal thing, well a normal reason for getting murdered, perhaps the NUMBER ONE reason that people are killed i.e. D-O-M-E-S-T-I-C D-I-S-P-U-T-E-S.

Anyway I feel that threads and even articles like this were not about truth in reporting. No it was about deceiving the public into associating Militias with racist murdering thugs, and the only way they can do that is to report deceptions and lies. Militias are legal and are important to the defense of this country IMO. In fact they have played a primary role in its survival in the past. However now when a Lilly white naive PC American or especially a gun phobic European gets a visual of a militia member it resembles a backwards type guy with a gun and an attitude which is the farthest thing from the truth. There is nothing wrong and a lot right with lawful ethical militias.

Lastly this thread has accomplished what it set out to do and that is to secure deception and lies as truth, it also went off its own topic (s) including discussion on illegal immigration etc, so I will briefly comment on that as well. There are countless land owners on the border that have been molested by illegal running drugs and people, some armed, some even Mexican police and military. I see nothing wrong using lethal force if necessary to stop these crimes from happening , AS LONG AS IT IS DONE IN A LAWFUL MANNER. I am pro legal immigration and think a good influx of people from other nations is exceedingly healthy for the USA. God bless them and I thank them for wanting to be Americans. However illegal immigrants are criminals and should be treated as such end of story.

More trivia on the shooter;


FBI agents and, because of weapons found at the scene, the bureau's terrorism task force were at the scene assisting local police officials with their investigation, reports Phoenix TV station KPHO. Police say they believe the incident was domestic violence-related, according AP.

Police have identified the former Marine with ties to neo-Nazi and Minutemen groups as one of the five people killed in a shooting spree Wednesday in Gilbert, Ariz., a Phoenix suburb, according to the Associated Press.

See how the press groups Neo-Nazi with the legal law abiding Minutemen groups? That is a simple but well used propagandist tactic I learned as a PsyOps MOS in the army.

reva

 

Dude, go read The Turner Diaries. A lot of the outlaw militias are what Pierce called "legals."

That is scarey.

Most of the militias are composed of about 75% dimwits who do not know that what they are doing is, in most states, illegal. The remainder know that it is illegal and are lying to recruit "useful idiots" to augment their numbers when the RaHoWa kicks into high gear.

 

still no condemnation of the killings in all that garbage. hilarious. try again. or, do you still "feel" for the guy???

 

yup, domestic killings are normal to the far, far right fringe.

 

The outlaw militia whackos seem to share a lot of the same attitudes with the Taliban. Only Islam sets them apart.

 

Umm... Are you talking about the Bush days? Because Obama, I believe, has DOUBLE the patrol on the borders...

 

The border doesn't need defending against peaceful people. If all that were prevented from coming to the US were real criminals (people who harm other people), then there would be very little need for "border defense" except during times of real invasion, like when Canada gets ready to take back the US for the Crown.