Morgan Stanley, JP Morgan and Goldman Sachs Under Investigation for Facebook Shares

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  1. Leffe

    Leffe New Member

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    http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/2012/may/22/facebook-ipo-banks-investegated-secret

    So they knew the shares were over priced and only shared the information with big investors, not your average man in the street.

    These banks should be pulledd over the coals. I wonder what other dodgy practices they are involved with on a daily basis, which support large investors at the expense of ourselves and our retirement funds.

    Sickening.

    Let the GOPers defence begin!
     
  2. Taxcutter

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    ...and just who gets the job of adjudicating what is ethical and what is not?


    Dirty little secret: Your retirement fund IS one of the major investors. "Institutions" as retirement and other funds are called dominate Wall Street.
     
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    Jebediah Banned

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    Do you know anyone with half a brain who didn't?
     
  4. Leffe

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    Not if my retirement fund is managed by myself.

    And the FCC ajudicates the rules and one of those rules is to inform everyone (not just your investor buddies) about the facts. They broke the law here, morals are nothing to do with it.
     
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    That's not the point. They broke the law and did not disclose the data to everyone, just their investor mates.

    Are you trying to defend this?
     
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    Zosiasmom New Member Past Donor

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    It's indefensible. They are destructive and corrupt. However, they have the very best attorney's in the world and will come out unscathed.
     
  7. IgnoranceisBliss

    IgnoranceisBliss Well-Known Member

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    You "think" they broke the law. This is America, people are subject to an investigation and then a trial before it can be said "they broke the law." No one has enough information to really have an informed opinion about the case....since it was just opened. Anyone with even an iota of financial understanding realized that Facebook was extremely overvalued.
     
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    Actually that is the point. I'm all for reasonable government oversight but at a certain point people have to be adults and take care of themselves. A bunch of idiots buying Facebook stock does not pose systemic risk. It doesn't put tax payer money at jeopardy. I am far more concerned about bringing back Glass Steagall and making derivatives trading transparent as much as possible.

    The SEC is an under resourced agency. They have to prioritize. Was there something illegal going on with the Facebook IPO? Maybe. Is it something that demands front page attention... no.

    Grown up adults decided that Facebook was worth more than McDonalds, Amazon, Disney and VISA. You really think the government needs to protect people from that type of stupidity?
     
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    squidward Well-Known Member

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    is that your new threshold for securities fraud ?
     
  10. Leffe

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    The problem is that they've made a bundle from illegal activities and there'll be no negative impact to them. So where's the incentive to act legally?
     
  11. Jebediah

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    Nope. If you read my ENTIRE post you will see that is my new standard for prioritizing things at an under resourced agency.
     
  12. Badmutha

    Badmutha New Member

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    Morgan Stanley, JP Morgan and Goldman Sachs.........hmmmmm......

    Top Obama Donors
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    Since Wall Street and The Banks have Obama in their pocket.......Im betting nobody gets prosecuted.
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  13. IgnoranceisBliss

    IgnoranceisBliss Well-Known Member

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    A lot of those organizations actually fund both sides.
     
  14. Badmutha

    Badmutha New Member

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    So much for Change......all we got was more of the HusSame....
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  15. The Mello Guy

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    romney top donors...


    Goldman Sachs $573,080
    Bank of America $398,850
    JPMorgan Chase & Co $393,825
    Morgan Stanley $373,850
    Credit Suisse Group $317,410
    Citigroup Inc $301,550
    Kirkland & Ellis $248,052
    Barclays $228,400
    PricewaterhouseCoopers $214,250
    Wells Fargo $204,300
    HIG Capital $191,000
    UBS AG $190,500
    Blackstone Group $182,550
    Bain Capital $149,000
    Marriott International $132,827
    EMC Corp $129,200
    Citadel Investment Group $127,125
    Elliott Management $125,975
    Deloitte LLP $124,250
    Bain & Co $123,050

    http://www.opensecrets.org/pres12/contrib.php?id=N00000286
     
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    Yep, all financial firms donate to presidential campaigns. Wonder why that is?
     
  17. Badmutha

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    So Wall Street and the Banks gave Obama more........is that what your getting at?

    Or is this another case of "Its only wrong when a Republican does it"?
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  18. The Mello Guy

    The Mello Guy Well-Known Member

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    im saying they give their money to both parties...normally more to the ones in power
     
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    Badmutha New Member

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    Ahhhh.....a voter of Hope and Change.....finally comes to grips with the complete fraud and utter lie he voted for.
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  20. The Mello Guy

    The Mello Guy Well-Known Member

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    it was only you folks who branded him the messiah. hes still a politician who has to get elected....and was and is the best option available by a wide margin
     
  21. Til the Last Drop

    Til the Last Drop Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Anyone notice the universities getting in on the bribery action? You know (*)(*)(*)(*) well that is to keep the easy to get loans flowing into their pockets.
     
  22. Badmutha

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    Surely Obama will get to the bottom of this and prosecute.........just like he did with all those Bankers he promised to bring to justice......

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    .....A Complete Fraud and Utter Lie--Barack HusSame Obama
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    .....Im betting Obama is sending investigators over to Chase, Morgan Stanley, and Goldmann Sachs as we speak.....to collect the monthly bribe.
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  23. The Mello Guy

    The Mello Guy Well-Known Member

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    After many months of negotiation, 49 state attorneys general and the federal government have reached agreement on a historic joint state-federal settlement with the country’s five largest loan servicers:

    Ally/GMAC
    Bank of America
    Citi
    JPMorgan Chase
    Wells Fargo
    The settlement will provide as much as $25 billion in relief to distressed borrowers and direct payments to states and the federal government. It’s the largest multistate settlement since the Tobacco Settlement in 1998.
     
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    Amen, brother, amen!

    Rule #1: Don't let other people (*)(*)(*)(*) around with your money.
     
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    ....especially Bureaucrats and Government.
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