Romneys' Car Elevator

the plain fact is that there is enough hypocrisy on both sides to go around. To suggest that hypocrisy resides only on one side of the aisle is, I think, laughably hypocritical, don't you?

 

But you don't really know do you?

 

didn't you just call a 427 a small engine?

 

it wasn't $10m, it was $50k over something Perry said Romeny said...and he knew he didn't, so it really wasn't a bet.

 

I hope he does because his 'household' is quite affluent. Unlike our current President who is running our government into the ground.

BainCapital is an asset management firm using private capital investors. When they invest in a company it is to implement successful business plans as a partner. Sometimes this involves cuts in the number of employees however, the intent is not to 'bust out' the company like the take-overs in the 80's.

 

nor is it any of my business. His career path after college is a matter of record. His academic accomplishments at Harvard are as well. You don't get to be editor of the law review by being a middle of the pack guy.

Obama's life was never one of affluence and privilege. Romney's was. He was born with a silver spoon up his butt.

 

Mitt is on record... he loved firing folks. what a great american HE is.

I've had to fire a few folks in my day and it was nearly always a terrible feeling for me. Guess that's why I'm not a republican running for president.

 

middle of the pack at Harvard would be exceptional for someone born in Kenya, and spent the second half of HS on pot.

 

Why don't you provide Romney's REAL quote? Here it is...

“I want individuals to have their own insurance. That means the insurance company will have an incentive to keep you healthy. It also means that if you don’t like what they do, you could fire them. I like being able to fire people who provide services to me. You know, if someone isn’t giving the good service, I want to say, I’m going to go get someone else to provide this service to.”


That quote from Romney does not say he he 'loved firing folks' your assertion is therefore made up.

 

Oh... he didn't love it... he only LIKED it. got it.

 

you forgot the being able to part.

 

He wasn't born into it. That is just as much of an overreach as saying he came from poverty. Why such the extreme? His father did well and yes, he was sent to Stanford. Are you arguing that his money did not come from his own success? You are acting like he inherited the money. That is a gross misrepresentation. Was that your intent?

 

I have never said or even implied that Mittens inherited all his wealth. Are you suggesting that George didn't leave him money in his will?

 

If you don't understand that restructuring an under performing business is more critical (and necessary) to keep the rest of the staff employed, I fail to understand how you are "wealthy" as you claim. This is a fundamental aspect of running a business.

Lastly, your petty quips about Romney "loving to fire people" just shows your immaturity. Romney never said he loved firing people, that is just another misrepresentation. So you are 2 for 2 on intellectual dishonesty.

 

whether you think I am as well off as I am or NOT.... is of zero consequence to me. I fully understand that laying people off is part of business. And laying people off is DIFFERENT than FIRING someone. SO much for your intellectual honesty.

Oh...and Mittens said he LIKED being able to fire people. funny...I never did. I liked being able to motivate people and to get them to do better... and to help them advance in their careers. I hated having to let people go. That didn't stop me from doing it, but I took no pleasure in it.

 

At least you admitted that you misrepresented what Romney said.

 

and, as expected, you ran away from your own intellectual dishonesty. why am I not surprised?

 

Now you are trying to shift the focus on something else. Terminating an underperforming employee is actually more important that restructuring. Again, the lack of your business sense is astonishing.

Semantics aside, I can clarify for the impaired, whether firing, restructuring, reorganization, or divestiture, business must make difficult decisions for the benefit of the whole (even if it impacts a few).

Good luck with that career.

 

no one said that firing underperforming employees wasn't important. I said that I didn't ENJOY it.

and my "career" is long over buddy... I socked away a nice nest egg and now am happily retired. good luck getting to that point yourself.

 

It's the 'it' you are having trouble comprehending. Romney was talking about health insurance providers not employees of a company. The gist of the comment was about 'firing' organizations that provide services to an individual. For instance, if your IP provides lousy service you can 'fire' them and 'hire' a better provider.

 

Don't be shocked that I didn't answer a dumb question. If you want to make a point, make it already. Of course, no surprise that you're also trying to make things personal again by asking who I voted for. I guess I was wrong, you are antagonistic.

 

It's under 500ci and naturally aspirated, isn't it?

 

I made my point several times. You made the assertion that because Romney spent $55k on a car elevator that people won't vote for him. I informed you that $55k is not seen as excessive or an overindulgence and the fact remains that wealthy presidents are elected all of the time.

As for my question, if you believe $55k is too much, how do you feel about Kerry's avoidance of over $400k in taxes? Both were presidential candidates? Does this mean that you would not vote for Kerry for US Senate?

 

I don't care what someone else buys. I do care when someone else expects me to buy it. Hey, President Obama, how's that campaign bus working out? Still flying it around the country in one of our airplanes?

 

My assertion is that his upper-class otherness will have a considerable effect on his palatability among independents. But thanks for taking a crack at misrepresenting my position.

which I don't, because the manufacturer of the elevator has to pay his installers and make a profit, but please, go on...

(a) I feel that it's an example of just another tax loophole the privileged wealthy are able to exploit. How do you feel about it? (b) Yes? (c) I'm not a resident of MA so I would not vote for John Kerry as Senator. Obviously there are people up in your neck of the woods who seem to like him. That's really not my problem. When he ran for president he clearly didn't appeal to people nationally like he's managed to do in his home state because he couldn't even beat out a vulnerable Bush. Just like Romney won't beat out a vulnerable Obama.