Scientist do believe in God

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  1. WanRen

    WanRen New Member Past Donor

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    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/science/...-99.999-sure-God-Particle-has-been-found.html

    All these while, mainstream society always believe that scientist do not believe in God but what has been happening is that scientist has been for decades researching the existence of God, and now they seem to have found their God?
     
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    GraspingforPeace Well-Known Member

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    It was called the God particle by Leon Lederman for two reasons (and then that term was circulated over and over again by the media): 1) it was elusive and 2) his publisher wouldn't let him use the name "God(*)(*)(*)(*) particle".
     
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    It is also termed that as it fills a gap that was fundamental.
    It does not mean that, like Moses, they have gotten a glimpse of God's "back".

    This is a monumentally misinformed OP.
     
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    So let me get this straight, you seriously believe that the term "the God-particle" has any bearing on the question of the existence of a supernatural god?
     
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    I'm so torn on the term "God particle." I don't like it because the religiously ignorant think it's somehow science acknowledging the existence of their god. But at the same time, it makes it really easy to identify the religiously ignorant when they say ridiculous things like the OP.
     
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    Hahaha. Totally agreed there.
    I honestly didn't expect this thread to have anything to do with the Higgs-Boson when I entered, and I was only coming in to confirm that YES, some scientists do believe in God (much like myself) and it's not new knowledge.

    WanRen needs to read up before he posts methinks.
     
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    WanRen,
    Please request that the moderators take this thread down to avoid further humiliation to yourself
    Please.
     
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    Forget it, bruce. Let's just start worshiping the Higgs boson to help him save a little face.
     
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    Dear god this hilarious.

    Go to Wikipedia and read about the Higgs Boson. Then come here and realize your OP is hopelessely misinformed and has no basis in reality.

    Higgs Boson/God Particle =/= Supernatural diety.

    Its not that hard to understand.
     
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    WanRen New Member Past Donor

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    Notice how the scientist spell "God" with a capital letter "G" not "god".

    Scientist are now very excited with their discovery of God-particle they finally get to meet God, when in fact God already did reveal Himself some 2000 years ago as Jesus Christ and people back then were very excited as well but just like then, God is still being dismissed by the anti Christ.

    Yes, Charlie, Ali, Mohammed, Pedro, Urik, Zu, Toyota, Henry there is a GOD.
     
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    Thank you so much for being the poster-child for how religiosity cripples one's critical thinking abilities.

    The God-Particle is just a term. It has nothing to do with god or religion.
     
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    Yes, it is a proper noun, how would you spell it? Even so, yes, the God-particle derives its name from the monotheistic God, I did not argue otherwise, I asked whether you think its existence has any bearing on the question of whether there is a god. Just because some guy gives it a specific name doesn't mean that it is so crucially linked to the name as you suggest. Atom means undividable, that had no bearing on whether or not we were able to divide it.

    Here are some quotes from the wikipage:

    'Lederman said he gave it a nickname because the particle is "so central to the state of physics today, so crucial to our understanding of the structure of matter, yet so elusive,"[74][75][80] and added that he chose "the God particle" because "the publisher wouldn't let us call it the God(*)(*)(*)(*) Particle, though that might be a more appropriate title, given its villainous nature and the expense it is causing."'
    Again, the fact that some guy named it the God-particle doesn't mean that it has anything to do with God. And no random mention of different names is going to make it so.
     
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    I wonder what America's Religious Wrong would be saying if it had been dubbed the Allah Particle? :D
     
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    Does that mean....2nd coming??
     
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    WanRen New Member Past Donor

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    Scientist are supposed to be the smartest individuals, they didn't name it God-particle because they didn't believe it is not God. Scientist have their own notion of God for them God is the beginning and the end, the alpha and omega, the infinite particle that has been and always will be no end no beginning their God is that special Atom of all atoms that they called God-particle.

    That is why scientist were very excited with their discovery because they believe they have found their God!
     
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    By all means, keep digging your hole deeper and showing your ignorance more and more.
     
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    This thread is depressingly amusing.

    Ignorance knows no bounds.
     
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    Is WanRen just trolling? It's like he's having a two way agreeable conversation with himself, and not paying even the slightest bit of attention to how his idea has been shot down numerous times. I mean, he's even specifically spelling the plural "Scientists" without the plurality of the "s", which is hard to believe any non-troll would be doing consciously.

    If he's not trolling, then WanRen, please heed the advise of others and look up what the Higgs Boson really is and what it represents to the scientific community. Heck, Peter Higgs himself was an atheist and thought the term might offend the faithful, and on top of that, just as someone previously stated, it was originally supposed to be named the "God(*)(*)(*)(*) particle".
     
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    Please. Stop being aggresively "stupid".

    Read what Swenson posted. All of your points are refuted. The Higgs Boson is not a particle (it is not an atom, educate yourself) that created everything. It is a particle responsible for mass. That's it.

    Educate yourself.
     
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    Are you sure you are in Canada?

    You sound like you are from Texas, Mississippi or Tennesse.
     
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    I know plenty of smart people who aren't scientists, and I know a few scientists that aren't that smart too. Scientism does not advocate taking whatever scientists say as true, it advocates finding out yourself.

    Scientists have all kinds of different notions of what God is. To most scientists, beginnings are beginnings, ends are ends and alpha and omega are Greek letters. The Higgs boson is not infinite, it has not always been or will be for any prolonged period of time.

    What definition of "God" are you using when you're saying that the God-particle is the God of scientists? Scientists are very excited because they've found a particle which (supposedly) explain a lot of things, not because it has any special meaning above that of many other particles.

    The reason we're not excited about quarks is because we've already found them. The reason we're not excited about super-symmetric particles is that we have not found them. The Higgs particle is mainly exciting because we've just found it.
     
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    They could have called the particle Higgs-bossom instead they chose to called it God-particle. The scientiest believe they have discover an infinite Atom an Atom that has always always been around, an Atom that started it all. Now scientist will be using this God-particle to further advance science to the development of teleportation, understanding and advancing the study of graviton.

    Scientist have been quietly seeking God the only difference between what the scientist believe of God and Catholics is that God for them is a particle an Atom.

    Now that they have discovered God, their next step aside will be to discover the counter part of God-particle, the Satan-particle?
     
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    You are either trolling or a massive idiot.

    Numerous people have explained why you are wrong.
     

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