A New Gay Hero For California?

SEC. 3. Section 51501 of the Education Code is amended to read:
51501. The state board and any governing board shall not adopt
any textbooks or other instructional materials for use in the public
schools that contain any matter reflecting adversely upon persons on
the basis of race or ethnicity, gender, religion, disability,
nationality, sexual orientation, or because of a characteristic
listed in Section 220.

 

And your claim: Yeah, the law prevents the schools from teaching anything that might reflect badly upon gays

And that law doesn't do that. Shall I explain why this law doesn't do what you claimed it does?

 

LOLOLOLOLOLOL!!!!! Yeah, it prohibits them teaching anything that might "reflecting adversely" upon gays as opposed "reflect badly" that I recalled from memory. You probably even think you have a point.

 

Your rationalizations for murdering gays disgust and alarm me. I am very concerned that your justifications for assaulting and harming gays could turn into actual violence.

Please get some counseling- whether from your religious leaders, if you are religious, or from a secular source- to assist you with dealing with this issue before it is too late.

I am very, very serious and this is not intended to be an insult in any way. I am very concerned.

 

& your apologism for homos who commit homosexual statutory rape on teenage boys as Harvey Bernard Milk did is evil. SFJeff, we don't want homosexuals having sex with underage boys, we don't want homosexuals committing assault&battery & we don't want homos committing indecency in public restrooms , just among many other things we don't want homosexuals doing but which you see nothing wrong with. People who make excuses for queers who do these things is a reason why 'gay bashings' happen & most 'gay bashings' are men reacting to crimes the homos did. Harvey B. Milk won't be homolesting any more teenage boys so yes, his murder in the end is the lesser of 2 bads. Also let me say that I once stood up to a psychologist. What happened was I was in a library in 2006 discussing Jon Benet Ramsey case where a transexual was accused of her killing. I said that it should be a crime to do sex changes but the stranger who I argued with told me he was a psychologist & an apologist for it. He said that he would report me to library staff if I continued arguing. Well in January 2007, that therapist who was in the library left his desk & I got his computer ID. I called library to anonymously report he committed indecent exposure & that psychologist was expelled from that library as I never saw him again in that library because of my anonymous call. So I defended my ground.

 

So you made an anonymous call, where you lied and accused someone of a sex crime?

You call that defending your ground?

Get some help before you hurt someone more seriously.

 

Your lectures are useless. It's predictable that homo/lesbian groups would see nothing wrong with Harvey B. Milk committing homosexual statutory rape on 16 year old boy & Harvey Milk bragging about having sex in public parks & not getting caught by police. & you get offended because I don't care about Harvey B. Milk a homosexual who commits homosexual statutory rape getting murdered. Again, in California & Arizona the minimum age where a person can agree to have sex is 18. In some states such as Texas it has been lowered to 17 & in Michigan it's 16 & yes, the law of these states is the law, but it's a bad idea. SFJeff, you to repeat see nothing wrong with homosexuals committing homolestation such as Harvey B. Milk & you see nothing wrong with Harvey B. Milk committing public indecency. If Harvey B. Milk had been killed by his 16 year old victim, then there'd be reason to it. It's a good possibility that Harvey B. Milk turned out homo because of the homosexual statutory rape & we'll see how many of Jerry Sandusky's victims turn out homo. But I'm not going to mourn the murder of a homosexual who commits statutory rape & bragged about how he had sex in parks.

 

Something to add to the Harvey B. Milk topic & it's the Stephen Starr (2011 case) in NC. Before this, to summarize 'gay panic' defense, here a few eg. of anti-social conduct that gay committed which defense lawyer can & should bring up to jury in deciding 'gay bashing' cases. 1 would be if the gay committed indecency (indecent exposure) by the homo masturbating in front of others or exposing himself; if the gay harasses other men by repeatedly proposing after the man has said no, following the man into the lot; if gay commits assault&battery by what I've written. There are more but jury must consider anti-social conduct gay did before man bashed or killed the gay in deciding verdict as the man did react to a crime the homo committed. Now to the Stephen Starr case in N.C. because Stephen Starr had the same personality that Harvey B. Milk did.

Stephen Starr in Feb. 2011 was a 36 year old homosexual who was shot & axed to death by an autistic 19 year old boy who Stephen Starr said was his adopted son. What Stephen Starr did was adopt this 19 year old mentally retarded boy. But rather than be a dad, Stephen Starr sexually abused this 19 year old boy incl. putting drugs in the boy's cough medicine. 19 year old boy killed Stephen Starr in his sleep by shooting him & axing him. Gay/lesbian groups are apologists for Stephen Starr, as would SFJeff is. But truth is that Stephen Starr committed sex abuse on a retarded boy. This 19 year old boy was autistic, Stephen Starr sexually abused the autistic young man & the young man killed him. Judy Shepard & many gay/lesbian activists such as on Box Turtle Bulletin see nothing wrong with Stephen Starr homolesting an autustic young man. Mentally retarded people can't legally agree to have sex. If a straight man were to have sex with a mentally retarded 19 year old woman who he calls his 'adopted daughter' that man would be committing rape. With Stephen Starr , it wouldn't be surprising if he had sexually abused other teenage boys who were mentally retarded, got away with it but this time, he got killed by his victim. Yes, Stephen Starr's victim should've called the cops & have the police arrest Stephen Starr for sex abuse. Though the case has been pleabargained, Stephen Starr by having sex with a retarded 19 year old boy committed homosexual rape. If you don't see anything wrong with Stephen Starr having sex with 19 year old autistic young man, then there's something wrong. SFJeff & other homos or gay apologists such as Judy Shepard see nothing wrong with Stephen Starr homolesting a mentally retarded 19 year old boy just as they see nothing wrong with Harvey B. Milk committing homosexual statutory rape on a 16 year old boy.

 

Your rationalizations for murdering gays disgust and alarm me. I am very concerned that your justifications for assaulting and harming gays could turn into actual violence.

Please get some counseling- whether from your religious leaders, if you are religious, or from a secular source- to assist you with dealing with this issue before it is too late.

I am very, very serious and this is not intended to be an insult in any way. I am very concerned.

 

I nominate "snowisfun" as the #1 candidate for a sock puppet of a gay-activist like SFJEFF, having lost the debate in this thread, and seeking to create a diversion that creates kneejerk and blind sympathy for the gay cultural movement.

snowisfun is the perfect villian. He's a combination of someone trying to sound intellectual, but just ignorant enough to make threatening comments towards gays. A sort of "rougher version of Silhouette" that Jeff prays every day I was so that he could "win" by blind-sympathy milking.

Sorry Jeffy boy. Nothing y'all do is going to change the fact that the GLBT community has tied itself at the hip to their chosen "hero figure" [Harvey Milk] who also simultaneously was a promoter of gay promiscuity [HIV & AIDS] and who enjoyed sodomizing youngsters for his sexuality....youngsters on drugs that is... Much easier to talk them into bending over at the waist if their hormone-raging bodies and vulnerable young minds are addled with drugs... Milk knew exactly which demographic he had a "penchant" for and why...

Volley that Jeff and leave your sock puppets back in the drawer.

How do you square up offering Harvey Milk to kids to emulate as the "GLBT gay hero" while at the same time these kids are learning about avoiding promiscuity, STDs and drugs? Harvey Milk's sexuality was de facto the promotion of promiscuity, [and thereby] STDs. He preferred his child targets to have drug issues. HOW DO YOU SQUARE THIS UP WITH HEALTH ED CLASSES IN CALIFORNIA?????

 

Silhouette, not a sockpuppet of SFJeff. It's my own views. In fact, created this topic in March 2012 & have commented http://www.politicalforum.com/law-j...t-ideology-gay-bashings-5.html#post1061459623

Silhouette, you regard Randy Shilts as a hero but Randy Shilts was an apologist for Harvey B. Milk & he would've opposed putting Harvey Milk in prison. Randy Shilts while towards the end was regarded as a traitor to the gay/lesbians in blaming homosexual AIDS victims, fact remains that if you ask Randy Shilts what he thought of Harvey B. Milk committing statutory rape on 16 year old boy, Randy Shilts probably would've defended him. Randy Shilts told truth about Harvey B. Milk being a homosexual statutory rapist, but he excused this. Don't be surprised if Randy Shilts is an apologist for Stephen Starr, the NC homo who sexually abused a 19 year old mentally retarded boy by 'adopting' this autistic boy & then instead of being his father sexually abused him. To repeat, that 19 year old boy shot & killed Stephen Starr in his sleep & then mutilated his body with an axe. Yet you Silhouette, want to honor Randy Shilts SFJeff sees nothing wrong with gays committing homosexual statutory rape & SFJeff sees nothing wrong with 36 year old gays like Stephen Starr committing sex abuse on retarded 19 year olds. He accuses of me advocating 'gay bashings' but that is mostly false. I'm peaceful & against starting fights in randomly going out & bashing gays. But if a homosexual is going to be anti-social as both Harvey B. Milk & Stephen Starr were, then they must go to prison. But Harvey B. Milk & Stephen Starr are 2 'gay bashing' victims who don't deserve sympathy because Harvey B. Milk committed homosexual statutory rape & had sex in parks while Stephen Starr victimised a 19 year old retarded boy. Again, Randy Shilts who is Silhouette's hero saw nothing wrong with what Harvey B. Milk did & he probably would've seen nothing wrong with what Stephen Starr did.

 

"lost the debate"? There are about 4 people who participate in this kooky thread. Since no one is taking your suggestion seriously....well I think it is clear that sanity has won this debate.

He does remind me of you in many, many ways- well actually all the ways you pointed out.

Harvey Milk promoted promiscuity when no one had even identified AIDs or HIV. No more relevant than blaming doctors in the old days for not washing their hands before surgery.

And once again- 'sodomizing youngsters' is just purely your invention. Why are you so compelled to lie about Milk?

There is no record that Milk ever had a 'child target'- again this is purely your invention.

In response to your general question- how do I square it up? Because children are not being taught about Milk be promiscuous, they are being taught about his accomplishments in helping Gay Americans gain the same rights and protections as non-Gay Americans.

This is no different than our children being taught about Thomas Jefferson. We don't teach our children about slave owner Jefferson, who is accused of illegally having sex with his slaves- we teach about Thomas Jefferson, father of our Constitution- and his contributions to the United States.


But I do find it fun that you are trying to villify both me and Snowisfun- when Snowisfun is your more open partner in homophobia. But I will give you credit- you don't try to rationalize murdering Gays.

 

With your 1st paragraph, you're mostly right. Silhouette honors Randy Shilts when Randy Shilts while towards the end was regarded as a traitor to the gay/lesbians in blaming homosexual AIDS victims, fact remains that if you ask Randy Shilts what he thought of Harvey B. Milk committing statutory rape on 16 year old boy, Randy Shilts probably would've defended him. With your last part if a straight man were having sex with a retarded 19 year old woman, then that straight man should be in prison for rape. If that straight man were killed by this 19 year old retarded woman by being shot in his sleep & then axed, he won't get sympathy from me-yet you probably don't accuse me of justifying murdering straight men. So Harvey Bernard Milk & Stephen Starr are 2 'gay bashing' victims who don't deserve sympathy because Harvey B. Milk committed homosexual statutory rape & had sex in parks while Stephen Starr had sex with a 19 year old retarded boy. Yet you SFJeff don't think that Stephen Starr should be prosecuted for this.

 

why do you continue to post such obvious and easily proven lies, after you've been exposed?

 

And where did I ever say or imply that Snow?

I think that rationalizations of murders of people because they were Gay or because they happen to be Gay is dispicable. I find your posts scarey and I am concerned about what you may do.

 

SFJeff again, you know I'm against bashing & killing people simply for the fact they're gay though I see something wrong with gay activities But something new, there are individual gays who have told me that if a homo is going to harass other men in bathrooms or if a homo is going to commit assault&battery by pinching a man's butt or groin against will, if the man reacts by breaking the gay's hand(s) by throwing it to the ground or breaks the gay's knees by kicking the gay in the shins, then the gay committed a crime & he got a violent reaction to it. My view to repeat has been that 'gay bashing' cases must be judged by juries & if a defense lawyer wants to bring up anti-social conduct the gay did before the man reacted by bashing or killing the gay, then a jury must regard this in deciding whether the man used reasonable or excessive force & if it's excessive, then what degree. Yet you condem the idea of let's have juries decide what is reasonable or excessive because reasonable force is a jury topic.

I already said that if a man is having sex with a retarded 19 year old girl, he should go to prison for rape because a retarded woman can't understand what is happening. If the retarded woman kills the man while he is sleeping & then chops him up, a jury will decide what degree the retarded woman should be convicted of such as Manslaughter rather than Murder 1 or Murder 2. I see something wrong SFJeff with 36 year old homosexual Stephen Starr having sex with a retarded 19 year old boy in 2011-that was sex abuse. Though the murder case was pleaded to 2nd Degree, IMO, that was Manslaughter & had it been a jury trial, the defense lawyer should've brought up Stephen Starr having sex with a boy he knew was retarded, including putting drugs in the boy's Mucinex after which the 19 year old boy reacted by shooting Stephen Starr in his sleep & then axing him. Stephen Starr had no right to be having sex with a 19 year old retarded boy. If Stephen Starr of NC wanted to have homosexual sex, then there were many adults who aren't mentally retarded who he could've done his deeds with. But he did it with a retard & chances are Stephen Starr has had homosexual sex with other retarded youths but got away with it until he did it with 1 who killed him in a revenge killing. It's understandable to me why the 19 year old retard killed Stephen Starr, but gay/lesbians such as on Box Turtle Bulletin in 2011 made excuses for Stephen Starr having sex with a retarded 19 year old.

 

I think that rationalizations of murders of people because they were Gay or because they happen to be Gay is dispicable. I find your posts scarey and I am concerned about what you may do.

 

That's not serious rebuttal & you know it. If a homo is going to harass other men in the bathroom or if a gay is going to pinch a man's butt or groin against will, the the gay needs to be kicked in the shins breaking the gay's knee(s) or the gay needs to have his hand(s) broken. The homo committed a crime & the man reacted. Stephen Starr of NC in 2011 had sex with a 19 year old retard & that retard killed Stephen Starr. Yet you don't think it's despicable what Stephen Starr did. It can be said the main reason you find this despicable is because the straight man didn't take the criminal abuse the homo did. Anyhow, copying & pasting this to Law & Justice.

 

In criminal codes it is against the law to have sex with someone who is clearly mentally ill and therefore cannot consent. In New York, where Jack McKinley, 16, was first sodomized by Harvey Milk, the age of consent was 17. Randy Shilts at the very least stood for safe gay sex. But the GLBT community does not want to ally itself with safe or legal sexual practices. Instead, in California, they have chose to have a "hero" whose "heroic acts" consisted of blatantly promoting promiscuous gay lifestyles [and by extension, HIV/AIDS] and having sex with vulnerable children addicted to drugs.

Randy Shilts, in his biography on Milk, said that "Harvey Milk always had a penchant for young waifs with substance abuse problems" [page 180, The Mayor of Casto Street]. I'm saying Shilts would make a better role model for children also learning in school that they should avoid promiscuous sex and drug use...and adult predators for that matter... GLBTs disagree.

Curious, that..

 

And once again Jack McKinley was never diagnosed as being mentally ill, and there is no record that Milk ever sodomized anyone- purely your invention.


Randy Shilts at the very least stood for safe gay sex. But the GLBT community does not want to ally itself with safe or legal sexual practices. Instead, in California, they have chose to have a "hero" whose "heroic acts" consisted of blatantly promoting promiscuous gay lifestyles [and by extension, HIV/AIDS] and having sex with vulnerable children addicted to drugs.

There is no record that Milk ever had a 'child target'- again this is purely your invention.

In response to your general question- how do I square it up? Because children are not being taught about Milk be promiscuous, they are being taught about his accomplishments in helping Gay Americans gain the same rights and protections as non-Gay Americans.

This is no different than our children being taught about Thomas Jefferson. We don't teach our children about slave owner Jefferson, who is accused of illegally having sex with his slaves- we teach about Thomas Jefferson, father of our Constitution- and his contributions to the United States.

 

I think my IQ dropped a couple points when I saw this thread was still going.

 

I'm glad you can be so blase' about the GLBT movement tying themselves and what they stand for to a promiscuous pedophile. Others can't pretend it doesn't matter as easily as you can.

 

Good thing that the GLBT hasn't tied themselve to a promiscuous pedophile. However, I do believe that they celebrate the accomplishments of Harvey Milk, who led the fight for equal rights for Gays and who the GLBT community believes was assasinated because he was a prominent gay elected official.

 

except of course the GLBT movement has not tied themselves to a promiscuous pedophile. this is a proven lie, which you have been called on repeatedly.

 

From "Equality California":

From the California Bill, signed into law: AB 2567

And from The Mayor of Castro Street, The Life and Times of Harvey Milk, by Randy Shilts, gay activist and accredited journalist & friend of Harvey Milk:

Age of consent in New York and California where the two started having sex and travelled to and from: 17 in New York, 18 in California. Jack McKinley was 16 and on drugs when Harvey Milk, the "embodiment of the GLBT movement" began sodomizing him.

The facts are plain, simple and speak for themselves. When you hear hoofbeats, think "horse", not "zebra". When a man in his 30s sodomizes a minor boy on drugs and professes a penchant for that demographic, think "pedophile", not "hero"...or else what he stands for will be tied to what you sand for.

Simple, direct, logical correlations. Anyone can connect the dots.