Jews are NOT Foreigners in the Land of Israel!

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  1. HBendor

    HBendor New Member

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    Most of you on this forum in addition to some of the Moderators, probably thought that each and every time I mentioned that Judea and Samaria are part and parcel of the motherland of Israel probably also, were determined that somehow I am boasting, I am not referring to historical facts, or just amplifying on this truism... The words of the permanent Ambassador to the United Nation will serve to back me on this one... Please read his own words on the subject matter...HB

    Jews are NOT Foreigners in the Land of Israel!

    Yehuda Z. Blum, Ambassador and Permanent Representative of Israel to the United Nations had this to say on June 11, 1979:

    A corollary of the inalienable right of the Jewish people to its Land is the right to live in any part of Eretz Yisrael, including Judea and Samaria which are an integral part of Eretz Yisrael. Jews are not foreigners anywhere in the Land of Israel.

    Anyone who asserts that it is illegal for a Jew to live in Judea and Samaria just because he is a Jew, is in fact advocating a concept that is disturbingly reminiscent of the ‘Judenrein’ policies of Nazi Germany banning Jews from certain spheres of life for no other reason than that they were Jews.

    The Jewish villages in Judea, Samaria… are there as of right and are there to stay.

    The right of Jews to settle in the Land of Israel was also recognised in the League of Nations ‘Mandate for Palestine’ which stressed “the historical connection of the Jewish people with Palestine and … the grounds for reconstituting” – I repeat, reconstituting their national home in that country.

    The Mandatory Power was also entrusted with the duty to encourage “close settlement by Jews on the land, including state lands and waste lands not required for public purposes.”

    Speech at the Louis D. Brandeis Award Dinner of the Zionist Organization of America.
    (Washington D.C., 11 June 1979)

    Click ‘LIKE’ if you agree that Judea and Samaria are an integral part of The Land of Israel.
     
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    No one is saying jews can't live in the west bank. What people are saying is that Israeli's cant live in a place that isn't their country. If you want to claim the west bank is part of Israel, than incorporate all current and past citizens.
    Your propaganda is absurd and only the stupid and ignorant fool for it.
     
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    We the 'stupid ignorant's and fools' of Israel will do just that!
    The majority of Israelis on record, more than 60% are demanding to incorporate Judea and Samaria in the interim before Gaza... those that want to live in PEACE will be welcomed to stand at attention when the hymn of the State of Israel will be played... Those that freely do not want to comply will have to make their private arrangements (22 x Arab countries) were created this past century for their INDIVIDUAL sel-determination.
     
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    Iolo Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Jews have always gone to Palestine to die, as have Christians and Muslims. The Nazis of Likud are foreigners everywhere, enemies of the human race, as they themselves well know.
     
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    alexa Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    OK, you are wanting a one state solution. That is fine. However if you wish to be considered a Democratic country you will also need to give equal rights and citizenship to all of your people and make reparations to those you have mistreated and those who have lost their country. I am well aware that Israel's intent is on taking over all of the Palestinians State awarded at the same time as Israel's one but you will never have goodwill unless you treat all of your people to equal rights.

    The Hymn also will need to be one for all the citizens of the new State.
     
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    Your Original Post you stated that "jews" should be able to live in any part of Eretz Yisrael. Could you draw the borders of Eretz Yisrael, for me?
     
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    Art_Allm Banned at Members Request Past Donor

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    Fully agree with you.

    If Israel wants to be part of the civilized world, it must stop the apartheid and treat the native Semites of Palestine like human beings and like citizens with equal rights.

    A "Jewish State" can only exist as a Theocracy and an apartheid regime.
     
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    Art_Allm Banned at Members Request Past Donor

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    Fully agree with you.

    If Israel wants to be part of the civilized world, it must stop the apartheid and treat the native Semites of Palestine like human beings and like citizens with equal rights.

    A "Jewish State" can only exist as a Theocracy and an apartheid regime.
     
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    Bender, no matter how many Israelis "demand " the theft /illegal acquision of more land., Israel signed a commitment to UN Charter . Save me boringly repeating it , I'd suggest you read it and learn .

    btw - the zionist never intended to "live in peace " with , what was previously for several centuries , before the influx of Europe's unwanted AshkeNazi Jews , a land with a predominently non-Jewish majority.

    btw - there are many learned Rabbis - True Torah Jews , i.e. JewsNotZionists, etc who disagree with your twisted political bigotry.


    for starters :

    http://www.jewsnotzionists.org/rabbismain.htm


    but as you've apparently got your head so deep in the sand , I dont suppose it'll make any difference to you.


    tata...


    ...
     
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    FOR ME the borders of Israel are exactly the ones of the MANDATE FOR PALESTINE nothing more and nothing less!
    For as every educated person in history knows,,, 'JORDAN IS P[ALESTINE'!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


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    and also depicted on this Emit Abdullah Post Office Stamp

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    Like everything Jewish , its flexible,. e Zionists would no doubt like to grab as large a slice of the pizza as they can - or even the whole pizza.


    -
    Greater Israel occasionally refers to the Promised Land (defined in Genesis 15:18-21) or to the Land of Israel, and is also called Complete Land of Israel or "Entire Land of Israel" (Hebrew: &#1488;&#1512;&#1509; &#1497;&#1513;&#1512;&#1488;&#1500; &#1492;&#1513;&#1500;&#1502;&#1492;&#8206;, Eretz Yisrael Hashlemah).
    It describes a large territory, "from the brook of Egypt to the Euphrates", comprising all of modern-day Israel, the Palestinian Territories, Lebanon, Syria, Jordan, and Iraq, as well as Kuwait, Saudi Arabia, U.A.E, Oman, Yemen, most of Turkey, and all the land east of the Nile river.

    Zionists are an insatiable lot.


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    "the inalienable right of the Jewish people to its Land is the right to live in any part of Eretz Yisrael, including Judea and Samaria which are an integral part of Eretz Yisrael."

    And if Christian Israel continues to believe themselves to be non-Israel and continues believing that anti-Christ Ashkenazi are Biblical Israel, then the anti-Christs who call themselves Jews have a right to own any place on Earth according to Yehuda Blum quoted above.

    And, since most of Christian Israel denies who they are,
    and refuses to let Christ be their King on Earth in the Here and Now,
    and is giving the Earth over to anti-Christ Talmdists,
    Christian Israel bring themselves under the curses of the Law which those same anti-Christs will be happy to execute upon them.

    Being of Yehuda or Israel is NOT about being one outwardly putting on a big show of it, seeking human approval.

    Being Yehuda and Israel is about submission of self to "nature's God" Jesus Christ, the King of kings. (Romans 2:28-29)

    Zion - "mount Sion", is "the city of the living God, the heavenly Jerusalem, and to an innumerable company of angels,

    the general assembly and church of the firstborn, which are written in heaven,

    and God the Judge of all, and to the spirits of just men made perfect,

    And Jesus the mediator of the new covenant, and the blood of sprinkling, that speaketh better things than that of Abel.

    See that ye refuse not him that speaketh. For if they escaped not who refused him that spake on earth, much more shall not we escape, if we turn away from him that speaketh from Heaven." Hebrews 12

    BTW in the Iranian TV serial, THE PROPHET JOSEPH, Israel tells his sons,[​IMG]

    After this episode, God's Messenger tells Joseph that he is the heir to Adam, Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, the Prophets,
    [video]http://www.shiatv.net/view_video.php?viewkey=aba86635a7cf8f963089[/video]
     
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    Is that so ?

    I presume you're no longer claiming Israel's legitimacy under UNGA Res 181 proposing partitioning of Palestine and finally revealing your greedy nature in wanting the whole of Palestine. .

    ????
     
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    alexa Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I know the British had a dastardly plan to let Jews become a majority in this area and give it to them in order that we should have you working well for us as our Colonialists. However it did not work. Not enough Jews wanted to go to Palestine. Most wanted to go to the US, UK or Western Europe. It did not sell. Even after the war and the holocaust not enough Jews moved to Palestine to give it a Jewish majority. For that reason it was not possible for the British to brazenly treat the indigenous population, whose genes are more Jewish than anyone else's, as invisible. Heck they even did what everyone else would do and started fighting for their homeland.

    So you didn't get the mandate and never should have as it was other people's home for centuries. An advisory group of UK/USA people who went and spoke to people and saw the situation said no one should be given any state at that time as it was clear you would just continue fighting as you have. However people felt sorry for you after the holocaust and the US got a glimpse of how good you could be to her, so you did get a State and henceforth got rid of most of the Palestinians, genetically the people who have lived there for the past 5000 years or so with a bit of mixing through the years.

    .....and now you are letting the cat out of the bag about all the ethnic cleansing. We know what is going on and what has been going on. Do you really think you are going to fool anyone into approving this?

    The US no longer needs you. Ever heard sayings like 'do as you would be done by' or 'what goes around comes around' You are building up a hell of a lot of bad karma for yourself and once the US loses interest and the US people start to get information everyone else has been getting for the past 45 years or so, you cannot expect anyone to go with that little yarn you gave in the OP ;)
     
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    [video=youtube;miZk1TDO53Y]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=miZk1TDO53Y[/video]
    You Don't Own the Land.

    And Here's Joseph in the well being comforted by God's Messenger:
    AngeltoJoseph.jpg AngeltoJoseph1.jpg AngeltoJoseph2.jpg AngeltoJoseph3.jpg AngeltoJoseph4.jpg
     
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    AngeltoJoseph5.jpg AngeltoJoseph6.jpg AngeltoJoseph7.jpg
    A continuation of the conversation between Joseph and the Messenger.
     
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    CERTIFIABLE [​IMG]

    Never mind that your Jazzing is denude of any orchestra!
     
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    Ivan88 Well-Known Member

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    America never need "you."
    But, now, it is a bit late to object to their power over us, now that we have adopted the Talmudic Noahide Laws.

    [video=youtube;vMG-LWyNcAs]http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=vMG-LWyNcAs[/video]
     
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    Resol 181 is long dead and surely buried... Israel at the time accepted it while the Arabs refused it and hurried to attack Israel to commemorate their negative response ... If their wish is to unearth it today, it will surely stink, and it will be non responsive...

    When I was young I wanted to be a Doctor and see where I ended now answering your scatological suggestion.
     
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    alexa Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    No what I said was true. Your inability to deal with that is your problem and one you will eventually have to take the consequences for.
     
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    alexa Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    We however have not been been dependent on the US. It is irrelevant to us. Our young men though did fight and die with and for Americans after 9/11 (not with my approval.) I did not notice any young Israeli's giving their lives for the US.
     
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    Yeah the truth really sucks, doesn't it? 'There are none so blind as those who won't see...'
     
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    You have said it all. Good post
     
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    The problem with you is the following...
    America is a SUPERPOWER and Israel is a tiny country trying to further its existense.
    America is spread thinly all over the World while Israel is bleeding, has bled and still bleeding securing its Matrimony.
    To this day, NO AMERICAN has fought for Israel, for Israel takes care of its own security!
    Jews have fought in the US Army and died for it since Haym Solomon (a Jew) subsidized the US Revolution.

    Salomon advanced from penniless fugitive to respected businessman, philanthropist and defender of his people. He risked his fortune, pledged his good name and credit on behalf of the Revolution, and stood up for religious liberty. Despite financial setbacks at the end of his life, Salomon's name is forever linked to the idealism and success of the American Revolution, and to the contributions Jews have made to the cause of American freedom.. Haym Solomon died penniless and all efforts to retrieve part of his investment to the revolution by his descendents was fruitless.
     

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