Is homosexuality a defect?

No more a defect then a man or woman who cant produce a child.

 

Here's the deal and I would hope all homosexuals would takes this part seriously. Most people I know could not care less about what two dudes do in the privacy of their chamber. Quite honestly, if they are both consenting adults, have fun. But homosexuals should realize that for many of us, to see the blatant and overt sexuality of two men together, even non explicit, is flat out repulsive. And, this is totally normal for US to feel, because we are normal and our proclivity suits how men and women were physically structured to behave. It's natural and normal for men and women to boink, is not for two men or two women.

I know homosexuals and have most of my life. So long as they don't get in my face, or hit on me (which has happened) or act swishy, I really don't care what they do. The guys who go Lady Gaga or bondage leather literally make me sick to see. Yes, they have the right to look like foolish perverts, but they can expect people like me to tell them they are pigs and that they are not helping the homosexual cause, at all.

Homosexuality is a perversion and is recognized as such by the majority of people, so don't get angry with us when just speak our minds.

 

More and more people are realizing that homosexuality is not a "perversion", it's just another sexual attraction. If "abnormal" sexual activity (abnormal meaning not for procreation), then almost everyone has a "sexual perversion" in some way.

 

This overrehearsed argument is a simple lapse in logic. Marriage is between a man and a woman for the purpose of creating a family, even when that purpose is thwarted by reproductive maladies. The fact that some couples have trouble producing children cannot logically be used to justify people who get together for the sole purpose of pleasure and self indulgence. The reason there will never be "gay marriage" is because marriage is about complete self donation to the other, not a hedonistic pursuit of pleasure. The Catholic Church has pointed out the folly of making pleasure the chief pursuit, rather than the creation of a family; when selfishness supplants selflessness. Fornication, masturbation, abortion, homosexuality, broken homes, fatherless children, sexually transmitted diseases and many more rueful ramifications result from the deviation of the singular purpose and definition of marriage. Most of these trends began with the sinful use of contraceptives that separated the sexual experience from it's life creating purpose and made sex about hedonism rather than sacrificial love that creates families and strengthens a society. It's a blight on our society and it weakens us all.

 

Homosexuality, like masturbation, is an abomination. Just like homosexuality, masturbation does not produce children. Thus, by OP's logic, he must agree that masturbation is a defect.

 

Homosexuality has an evolutionary advantage. There's evidence that the more sons a woman has the more likely they are to be homosexual. If everyone was straight we would have problems since evolution sees a use for homosexuality.
It is not rare, almost 10 percent of men are gay, with substantially more bisexuals.

A defect is a mutation that surves no purpose. Without mutations we couldn't have evolved, so useful mutations are not defects.
A random mutation with no usefullness would never effect 10 percent of the male population.


What this really points to is a degree of psychological anxiety on your part, I wonder what the reason is?
Have a dandy day now.

 

You are making sense!! Some people won't like that.

 

Attraction to boobs has nothing to do with procreation either. I wonder what the anti-gays think about that.

 

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Wrong. Breast size is a signal of a woman's ability to feed babies. Did you really think God's promise of a land of milk and honey had anything to do with agriculture?

 

Nope. Procreation is not required to pass on genes.

In a tribal situation, which is how humans evolved, homosexuality can help the tribe survive. Fewer males killing each other over females means more men to defend and support the tribe. And there's never any shortage of males available for siring children.

Two nieces or nephews passes on just as much of your genetic code as one direct offspring. Helping your nieces, nephews and other blood relatives in the tribe survive increases the liklihood of passing on your own genetic code.

This is sometimes called the "Good Uncle" theory. Lesbianism would be irrelevent, since in the tribal situation, the females would have been forced to bear children whether they were gay or not.

 

Homosexuality is an extreme anomoly in primitive tribes. None are more beholden to the simple laws of nature, survival, and procreation of the next generation than primitive tribes. Like wolves drive off a homosexual wolf, homosexuals in tribes fare no better. There's little use for them. So let's stop pretending that homosexuality is about survival and face the fact that it's about hedonistic pursuits, a perversion of the natural order that can only find purchase in more populated societies that have superfluous specimens that can have at each other with no immediate detriment to the birthing of the next generation.

 

I'm sure this isn't the ONLY "deal"; it's YOUR opinion.

Are we talking about only the people you know? And there are aspect of human sexuality that surely go beyond the "chamber". More and more, homosexual people and those who aren't realize that open, modest displays of affection between people of the same sex are certainly acceptable.

Well... yeah. Of course.

And THAT is YOUR PROBLEM!!! People aren't going to be in the closet for all time in this world, just because some REFUSE to deal with their own AVERSIONS to what they see. You know, some people don't want to see Black with White, young with old or even short with tall. You and others with some "phobia"... really need to get over it (and soon enough). America and other societies are changing; not ALL heterosexuals are 'repulsed' are you infer above. That is reality.

It's can only be "normal" if you find the proper way(s) of adjusting to the reality that such displays of affection EXIST. It isn't "normal" when you repeatedly and continually freak-out, rather than find ways to accept what is.

Dedication to your own memes, does not dictate the state of 'reality'. I would TRY to respect your sensitivities (personally), but I and other homosexual people can only do so much... to help you deal with reality. Please, be reasonable (think).

You lie. (Either that or you think your 'belief' is somehow equal to reality'.) Fact is, homosexuality is as "natural" as heterosexuality. That you cannot or will not accept (or adjust to) that, is essentially YOUR PROBLEM.

And considering the things you've said above... that is not a good thing.

Explain what you mean by "in my face".

Are you an attractive man? And do you know how to say: "Sorry, I'm not gay."???!! I've had HETEROSEXUAL WOMEN throw themselves my way, and I respectfully/casually declined their advances. I've also turned away advances by many homosexual men. There is no excuse for freaking-out... unless you are literally being harassed by someone.

What?!! Heck, I've seen "swishy" straight guys and the (more annoying) loud, annoying, over-compensating, super-hetero... alpha males. You know them (when you see them); they are the ones who exude the attitude which tends to say: "I'm THE MAN amongst all MEN!! And so many in this world are tremendously BLESSED by MY presence."

How many times I've stood calmly by, as I've seen that kind of douchy, maladjusted freak... self-destruct (one way or the other).

If you don't realize it by now, let me tell you this: Yeah, you DO care.

Time for you to learn to deal with those things you don't like. We all have to learn how.

If you want to be anti-social off-the-bat, you'll get what you give. Perhaps it is that you actually enjoy conflict? I really can't tell you.

You tell that offensive lie, and you expect people to 'tolerate' you as a person? I'd say that shows detachment from 'reality'. Sad.

That the majority of any particular group of human beings can be BOTH homophobic, bigoted and ignorant... is nothing new or profound. Same old issue that we're seen since the beginning. So be it.

Be prepared for the consequences of whatever you say or do. That is the reality you need to consider as seriously as anything that you might.

 

Homosexuality was there then... just as it is now. How they dealt with it socially (then) is likely the main difference.

Gay people are right here around us, with us and near us. People need to cease needlessly persecuting and rejecting them. The sooner more people realize that, the better off mankind will be.

 

Well then, that just proves what we already knew: Human beings are defective.

Now, get over it.

 

Awesomely-sensible stuff!! Thanks for your input.

 

In any case, that is mostly irrelevant. Breasts on women don't typically turn on homosexual men. Why is that? Can you explain that?

Do you think that everyone would take your ancient religious references and come to the same conclusion?

 

So, is it immoral to be attracted to flat chested girls?

 

Yeah. That's practically gay.

 

I suppose if we considered being red haired or left handed as being defective, we could add gays to the list.

But since there have been homosexuals for as long as mankind has existed, I am inclined to believe it's all just a part of nature and in the natural realm of things.

 

lol I suppose being flat chested is a choice too.

 

Are worker ants a defect?

 

Yep!! You NAILED IT!!

 

Whoever said people choose to be immoral? I'm a devote Calvinist, pleb.

 

This reality is flawed. Not everyone who gets married wants to have kids. Some people get married because they love the (*)(*)(*)(*) out of their girlfriend and want to make her a wife. What about people who get married , have lots of sex, and want to travel the world so they dont have kids? Are they SINNERS too and going to HELL! Hey guess what, some people want to have sex and not have kids! Get off your high horse and stop throwing that bible!

 

But, biblicly, you were commanded to go forth and multiply by God (so you would have children to beat with rods and stone to death later.) Who are you to question God?