What margin of error is acceptable to you in applying the death penalty?

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What margin of error is acceptable in applying capital punishment?

  1. No margin of error is acceptable.

    55 vote(s)
    84.6%
  2. 3%

    6 vote(s)
    9.2%
  3. 5%

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  4. 7%

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  5. 10% or greater

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    6.2%
  1. Heroclitus

    Heroclitus Well-Known Member

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    I'm not talking about labels. I'm talking about what Jesus said. The "fry 'em" posse doesn't like to face up to that.

    And if you're looking for a real underlying reason why the US murder rate is so high, maybe you have found it in your last sentence. Are you arguing for gun control here? The Death Penalty in the USA has simply not worked as a deterrent because it isn't a deterrent. In fact it just perpetuates a culture of violence and the cheap value of life that leads to these crimes. In most cases like the murderer kills themselves anyway. If you want to stop the scale of murder in America, then follow the example of the rest of the civilized world and introduce gun control.

    As ye sow, so shall ye reap.
     
  2. JoeSixpack

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    Are you a US citizen? If not please stay where you are, since you do not understand the concept of freedom. And before you ask, yes there are many in the two party extremist nut job scam that do not either, so the less we have to deal with the better.
     
  3. Turin

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    It was an oversight on my part. I meant to add the 1% option. :( Sorry.
     
  4. Turin

    Turin Well-Known Member

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    They dont want piece of mind. They want vengence.
     
  5. JoeSixpack

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    Piece of mind and closure.
     
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    No one wants a piece of anyone's mind. Peace of mind perhaps though.
     
  7. JoeSixpack

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    yep, peace of mind.
     
  8. freddy62

    freddy62 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Oh I don't know, the Chinese have a reputation for harvesting body parts from the criminals they execute & if some one has lost half a brain in an accident or shooting & a genetically compatible to be executed person could be found..................
     
  9. presluc

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    I and many others have argued and debated the gun controls in the U.S.
    Perhaps if it was a choice between gun control and DEATH PENALTY?

    At least society in America would have something.
    As it is, guns are easy to get, murders either get off with a jail sentence or walk.

    While the victims are given the old wrong place wrong time speech , or things like this rarley happen speech
    Maybe another speech from the NRA , or the judicial system.

    Bottom line something is not right when a person gets 3 guns a lot of ammunition goes into a movie and kills 12 people and wounds 58 , and society says leave everything as it is nothing needs to change???

    You didn't answer my question is it easy to buy a gun in the UK?:peace:
     
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    Had me fooled , tell me what is the opposite of war and death?
    That might be a little difficult for ya try the opposite of hate and war?

    I don't fantasize about killing people .
    I do ask for proper justice.:peace:
     
  11. r3000

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    No margin of error should be acceptable. It's going to happen, but it should never be acceptable.

    I don't most people understood the question.
     
  12. presluc

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    Well it's quite simple really the victims of 9/11 ask for more than a jail sentence for Bin Laden.
    The victims of the Denver shootings ask more than a jail sentence from Holmes.:peace:
     
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    The death Penalty question doesn't really apply here. Bin Laden was never formally charged with 9/11, and thus no trial and no sentence. and the Holmes trial is still going on.

    Cheers
     
  14. presluc

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    Sorry, lawyers may make pead deals with murders. I don't think they should .

    One deal you kill innocent people in America you get killed by American justice.:peace:
     
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    0% margin of error.

    Why would anything greater be acceptable? The state executing innocent people just to make the American Taliban feel good about a pointless act of revenge?
     
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    Originally Posted by r3000 View Post
    "The death Penalty question doesn't really apply here. Bin Laden was never formally charged with 9/11, and thus no trial and no sentence. and the Holmes trial is still going on."

    Im sorry, did lawyers make a plea deal with Bin Laden's lawyers? He was never even charged with 9/11. Not in a court of law, not formally in any way shape or form. But this isn't the point of this thread.

    The Topic is, What margin of error is acceptable in death penalty cases? I'm saying nothing greater than Zero should ever be "acceptable". Meaning we should never be ok with sentencing and then killing an innocent person within our justice system. It's probably going to happen yes, but we should never be ok with it.
     
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    To hell with making the Taliban feel good this has to do with a little thing called justice, ever heard of it.:peace:
     
  18. presluc

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    Killing an innocent person within our justice system no
    Killing a guilty person within our justice system yes
    Reason if the guilty don't want to die they shouldn't kill innocent people.:peace:
     
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    Great poll! It proves most of us do not agree with the currently implementation of the death penalty. In theory I have no problem putting a murder to death. Hell I would kill rapists, but the fact that we ourselves have murdered innocent people is astonishing. We have to stop the death penalty.
     
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    Me thinks you do not understand the question.
     
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    Turn the cheek? Heard of it?

    Your post fails to address the issue of accidentally killing innocent people.
     
  22. presluc

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    I don't think you understand the answer.

    What is a human life worth 5 to 10 6 moths time served and out in 6 months for good behavior?
    Your friends and family maybe?
    Not mine mine's worth a bit more say lethal injection in short life for a life.:peace:
     
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    12 CHEEKS WERE TURNED IN DENVER , ONE GETS TIRED OF TURNING CHEEKS.

    Who has spoken for the victims of this tragedy?
    Instead another criminal kills innocent people and people are worried if he gets the death penalty or not?
    What of the dead and wounded left behind ?
    What of the grieving families and friends?

    What is this, as long as the killer is protected WELL?

    A PAT ON THE HAND FOR THOSE LEFT GRIEVING AND A SLAP ON THE WRIST FOR THE KILLER?:peace:
     
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    What thread do you believe you are in right now?
     
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    See, that wasn't so hard was it.


    cheers
     

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