in the past few months there has been diplomatic eforts to solve the Nuclear Iran issue. as everyone saw, it didnt actualy work, they dont seem to care about the sunctions or threats. Israel as one of the threatend countries by this bomb, is preparing for an attack on the nuclear facilities in iran, yet the US still wants diplomatic solution because of the upcoming elections. so long story short, should there be an attack on the nuclear facilities? if yes, should israel be the one to attack? i came up with the next thing when i looked at things: israel attacks: a war with hamas and hizballa probably it will set fire on the middle east israel will be seen once again as the attacker(but thats like that everytime O.O) it will creat a huge money problem, because the oil will cose twice ass much, and most of the suplies are in iran. a conflict with the usa, who is a major ally of israel that dont want ass to attack in iran israel dont attack: we will be threatend every day by that bomb we will be shown ass weak so bassicly i think attack is not the best option, but it could be the only solution, because a nuclear iran that have issues with many countries, is a dangerous iran. even thou i dont agree with that attack, i seariously think they have to attack
No there should not be an attack, If any nation on this planet realy wants the bomb and can come up with the funds and brain power will get them. It is an old tech and eventually all countries will either have them or have the ability to get them. Unless Isreal is willing to put boots on the ground in Iran and take over the country they will not stop this. The same with the USA, the only way to prevent a determined country from gaining the bomb is by removing that country. So Isreal would be wasting their time and bombs in destroying irans nuclear facilities
If Iran get's attacked, whatever comes next is for sure not a regime ruled by Mullahs and if a half decent democracy is implemented, i doubt they'll be looking to acquire a nuke. Iran needs a nuke to keep it's theocracy regime. Other than that and besides reinforcing regional power and influence, Iran has no other use for a nuke. Replace it's current regime and Iran won't be having/needing a nuclear weapon. I just hope this regime change comes through a persian summer/autumn/winter/spring and not war.
i highly disagree! you think after all this years Iran would start rebuilding a bomb? besides, you think there is any taking over countries in our days? what are we? hitler? if Iran dosnt understand diplomacy they will have to deal with the consequences, i am againts the attack, cause dont want war here again, with summer vacation over in two weeks, but i dont there is any other option.
Dont think that its easy. If America wants to attack Iran, they can do it anytime. Look Irak, Afghanistan, etc, they're controlled by America now. But why still not happened to Iran? There must be something that American affraid of it. Besides... War isnt a good choice to end a conflict
"Look Irak, Afghanistan, etc, they're controlled by America now. " Controlled by Americans? Who told you that?
I voted 'no'. Iran's nuclear program is their business. My country has a nuclear program and weapons. We've tested 1054 bombs, and done two live drops. I believe Israel has a nuclear program and weapons too. We have zero ground collectively to stand on when talking to the Iranians. Why wasn't North Korea's nuclear program destroyed? Or Pakistan's? Or anyone else's who is on the club? Regime change is what is really wanted in Iran. Same with Syria.
An attack on Iran's nuclear facilities would be as evil as 'Iran is' (this is what they let you believe) The rulers in Iran acting evil to provoke an attack, and via this attack they cause another regime change in yet anoher muslim country (a big one, the last one) Because it's all about the creation of the biggest empire ever in the Middle East (Arab League) and have all countries and most arab/muslim people brought on the side of this empire (the people is the power) Iran is the last big islamic country that is on the menu to be regime changed, the USA the last big christian country on the menu that needs political change. Their biggest struggle, geting control over the Iranian and the US people. It's happening, and this attack on Iran and US elections 6-11 are the big changes they need to building towards the two biggest empires ever (a western and eastern, in the same way as the former Sovjet Union vs former NS Germany) The Iranian masses have no clue what is happening to them, and the US masses have no clue either. History, it's repeating again (people's minds are asleep very deep, because they keep watching e.g currently the Olympic games, before that Tour the France, big events all the time) They keep distracting people's minds, and one day they have reached absolute power and hardly anybody noticed. The people/masses have no idea what is happening to them since the turn of the century and 9/11 (empire building is invisible, it's a process going on in the background all the time, since 1945 in the Middle East, since 1913 in the USA)
First of all, do you really spell both "us" and "as" - "ass"? Seriously. Second, to the "regime changers", you know we did that already in the 50s. They HAD a democratically elected government, which the US replaced. Already. Now the US is not happy with it? Tough (*)(*)(*)(*). They should have left it alone in the first place. It's not the place of the US to decide what government every other country should have, especially the second time around.
because iran refused to let the international atomic engenirs or whatever to take a look at the facility and aprove that they are allowed to continue with the program.
I can't see the American public getting behind it. Americans are war weary, at this point. I believe in large part by the way the wars have been carried out. There is no decisiveness, no willingness to crush and move on. Far too much nation building. Just to interject, again, I was opposed to the Iraq fiasco. It seems, however unfortunate, that the mindset in the U.S., is to now wait until Iran develops the weaponry and delivery capability, and starts targeting front lawns on a Sunday morning, before anything is done. Israel is a state of it's own, and the leaders should do as they believe best for the Israeli people. If it entails a preemptive strike, then I say go for it. Either way, the ME is a lost cause in my opinion. *I wish you well*
Ok, someone print this post and sent it to Congress. The people have spoken and Iran should not be attacked.
Well has Israel ever let in the international atomic engineers or whatever to take a look at YOUR facilities and approve the continuity of your atomic ( and not for energy) program???
I think N. Korea is a graver threat than Iran. I don't think we are in a big hurry to replay that one. I wonder why that is. Maybe because N. Korea isnt sitting on the 3rd largest oil reserves on the planet. Likely, that.
Mayerling, the answer to that as we all know is a resounding NO. This is why Israel neither confirms or denies that they have nuclear weapons, which Mordecai Venunu (remember him?) has already let everyone know that they do have. With this known, Israel has no business threatening any other nation over their nuclear technologies capacities nor capabilities. \ What would happen if nations of that region stated that they felt threatened by Israel's nuclear capabilities? I know exactly what would happen, NOTHING!
People responding in this thread (well meaning as some of them might be) won't live the rest of their lives under the threat of Nuclear Armageddon and second Holocaust. The Israelis will. Israel must do what it believes is right for Israel and the choices are of course difficult, just like in 1967 Israel is d&mned if it does and d&mned if it does not, just like in 1940s, 1948, 1967 etc the world is indifferent to the plight of the Jews. Israel should therefore be indifferent to the concerns of the world and if the leadership of the country thinks that Israel's chances of survival are higher if they bomb Iranian nuclear facilities they should not hesitate.
I don't give a crap what Israel does (or doesn't). Let Israel deal with itself and it's neighbors. Just, please, KEEP US OUT OF IT! (Israelis are just Muslims of a different religion)
Well, if Israel does what it needs to do you won't be kept out of it, sorry but skyrocketing oil prices, world recession and islamic terrorism against western targets will undoubtedly ensue. But hey, you don't give a crap about Israel, why should Israel give a crap about your problems especially in the matter of national survival? At any rate, thank you for confirming the validity of the previous post, I appreciate your openness and honesty, you clearly stated what the world thinks but is uncomfortable to openly say.
Israel needs to admit it has conquered too much and made too much of a nuisance, to recover decorum, and so all children born in Israel need to be citizens, NOW. This should have been the position of the US, following the reneging of Israel, from the Oslo Accords. But US leaders are far too mushy. They can't lead, unless it is some kind of scam, like the attack on Iraq, following GW Bush's suppression of FBI and CIA shared intel, August 2001. By attacking Iraq and privatizing its oil, GW Bush and Dick Cheney committed war crimes, for oil. They also incited a lot of the insurgent activity, around the Middle East. Barack Obama continues to support their trends, like a fool. If the US did what it needs to do, which is to immediately cut all military and a lot of sundry aid, to Israel, that will be the end, of conspiracy, to violate the separation clause, the standing army clause, the enumeration of powers clause, USCA 4 security, and a good bit of US Code, on behalf of special intersts, for Israel. We have to lose our religions AND ISRAEL, soon enough, since our funds for crusades are about done. We need to get CO2 neutral biomass, finally, including hemp, algae, and switchgrass, without guarantee, of Israel's oil. This is the US, I'm writing about. We need to lose seditious persons, connected to AIPAC, so we can have a constitutional republic, finally. An ERA sure would help, since our constitution was ratified, when white men owned everything and everybody. They still own too much, relative to their value. Now, corporations, cartels, gangs, and conspiracies are preferred persons. Crime pays. This needs to stop, with corruption AND its carbon footprint. FYI, we are entering a mass extinction event. That corruption has a carbon footprint leaves us pretending we can burn oil AND fight over it, for professional profiteers, of all sorts and conspiracies. We need to be honest, about what is happening, with the Zionist republic. The arrival of Zionists in Palestine, in 1882 preceded the Mahdi Rebellion, in Egypt, 1886 and every religious-state-related conflict, since because the Zionists were the first advocates, of a religious state, in that region. I hope we agree, this is why Chrisitians and Jews have anything at all, to do with each other. Christians are normally too busy helping rogue states kill Jews, to know Jews, but as of the industrial revolution, Christians and western republics found Zionism a convenient excuse, to keep their standing armies up to speed. Of course, world wars from colonial interests have started to gravitate, toward Middle Eastern issues, such as oil and religion and nukes. , The US wouldn't have a problem in the Middle East, if the US were not always looking, for trouble, see also CIA, Israel, oil, Sunnis, Shiites. The CIA and MI6 supported the Shah, in 1953. The CIA supported Saddam, 1958, and UBL, 1988. Guess how those assets turned! Badly!! They were supposed to turn, badly. This keeps the US war machine going. But somebody is going to have to admit, the only outcome for CO2 emissions partly as fast as today's is a MASS EXTINCTION EVENT. Our Mass Extinction Event 6 will contend, for top killer, of all time. Without a meteorite strike, to complicate things, we can die out, from failed human and animal habitat, complicated by religious wars, complicated by petroleum, which we shouldn't be burning, as fast as we burn this. We need to re-green all deserts and polluted areas, not get in a nuclear war, over elitists, with bulldozers and Uzis and 300 nukes, in an area they claim, from previous ethnic cleansing, which their actually Semitic ancestors did, 3400 years ago, after Thera erupted, blowing Santorini to bits and causing a lot of weird plagues, in Egypt. Just because the descendants of killers are killers, again does not mean the US should bankrupt itself, for a seditious conspiracy, which is profiteering, while trying to blow up the world, which is on fire and BURNING DOWN, ALREADY. The extinction rate is projected at over 100 x normal, already. By keeping to the British Imperial Crusade plan, from the Victorian Era, we can make really sure we will take casualties, while miserably failing, to fund any positive social welfare media, of any sort. The 450,000 American elected officials, countless millions of bureaucrats, including armed bureaucrats, and corporate media are owned, in some pratical way, by AIPAC and Israel. We will lose the hyper-aggressive conquerors, soon, or we will see general failure of US funding and productive media. Sorry about your luck, if you are an elitist conqueror, who believes in starting up religious states, where these were not, until YOU PROPOSED THIS, IN EVERYBODY'S FACE, STARTING 1882. We can't afford you, or your Christian supporters, some of whom kept evolution out of schools, until 1958, when the Russians launched Sputnik. Zionists will split, like the Sunnis and Shiites, eventually. Christians just can't keep up with Jews, either Zionist-fascists or Finkelsteinian rationalists. Nobody Jewish is going to go for those killers or their virgin or their rapture or any of their dogma, which makes Judaism look bad, for their taking of the Old Testament. The US supports Sunnis, including minority tyrants, over Shiite majorities, since the US is an ally of Turkey, but this splits, since the US supports Israel and lets bulldozers roll and assassins blow away Rabin and IDF blast the USS Liberty and take territory, by starting the 1967 war, even though mushy Barack has said Israel should retreat, to the 1967 pre-war boundaries. Of course, Barack is a mush, who killed more with drones, and he busted more pot-clubs and whistleblowers, in four years, than GW Bush did, in eight years. Barack seems to think it's fun, to try to get Republcans and sundry Zionists, to vote for him. Barack just doesn't know how to lead. We will soon find out, if Barack can SAVE. Where do we get funds, MR.PRESIDENT? Out of a hat? Try SAVING! Barack smoked more pot, than any President, since Washington and Jefferson grew the stuff, but can he LEAD, to legalize, so we can have ethanol and plastic, like Henry Ford made? Duh, pass da kine . . .
