Turkey says Attack on Iran will be disastrous

Stop talking about God. He doesn't know you...

About Hamas...
http://www.thedailybedford.com/news/son-hamas-visits-mt-kisco-draws-large-crowd

 

its a very general info. .. anyone?

 

Did God tell you that?

 

No one will feel sorry for the coming vaporization of the residents of New York City and Washington, DC.

 

Good works and MohamMAD will find you no salvation. He bled so that MuSLIME terrorists didn't have to.....

 

i hope that you know that the Muslims believe in Jesus, for them he is"Jesus named as Isa (Arabic: عيسى‎ ʿĪs&#257 is considered to be a Messenger of God and the Masih (Messiah) who was sent to guide the Children of Israel (banī isrā'īl) with a new scripture, the Injīl or Gospel.[1] The belief in Jesus (and all other messengers of God) is required in Islam, and a requirement of being a Muslim. The Quran mentions Jesus twenty-five times, more often, by name, than Muhammad.[2][3] It states that Jesus was born to Mary (Arabic: Maryam) as the result of virginal conception, a miraculous event which occurred by the decree of God (Arabic: Allah)"

 

They don't believe in my Jesus.

He warned me about people who speak of his name....

 

I voted "yes"

However the disaster that would ensue would still be vastly superior to the disaster of letting Iran get nuclear weapons.

So try diplomacy as much as is possible. Maybe try a little espionage. But ultimately you do what you have to do.

Or more likely, Israel will poke Iran, Iran will launch missile at US ships and bases and THEN we'll do it.

 

What are you talking about?

Muslims revere Jesus and the virgin Mary.. Jesus is mentioned more often in the Koran than in the Bible.

 

They hold MohamMAD up higher though. Islam is a misguided and twisted faith...

If I mention your name more often than your husband does that mean I hold you up higher than he? One would think........

 

The Muslims believe jesus would convert to islam. That's pretty insulting to xtians.

 

Your Jesus? Are you saying there was more than one Jesus?

Both are messengers of Allah SWT.

The Quran has a Surah named after his mother, Mary (PBUH) and Jesus (PBUH) is mentioned more times in the Quran than Muhammad (PBUH). Mary is considered the greatest woman to have ever lived in Islam. Jesus, along
with Moses (PBUH), Muhammad and the other Prophets, all we're chosen by Allah SWT to spread His message. That's what they did. We respect the divinity of the Bible and Torah, only we believe throughout it's history man changed it. Which is why Allah SWT chose Muhammad to deliver the message of the Quran.

Your knowledge on Islam, despite starting how many threads trying to hate on it, is so limited you can't be taken seriously. Not only that, but you lie about pretty much everything you have said on this forum... As for the past part of your post..,

That would depends what you say about both people. Muhammad delivered the Quran, Jesus the Bible, Moses the Torah. All 3 are great men, all 3 are highly respected in Islam, all 3 are loved by all Muslims. It isn't a popularity contest.

سلام

 

We believe Jesus PBUH was by definition a Muslim. A Muslim is one who submits to the will of Allah SWT. All the Prophets have done this, so they were Muslims in that way. And all preached the same message, submit to Allah SWT, worship only Allah SWT, the main concept of Islam. Therefore, they preached Islam, in that way. Until the men of that time began changing things in the Torah first, then the Bible. So Allah SWT gave us the Quran.

What is insulting, saying Jesus PBUH was a Muslim, or saying Muhammad PBUH was a pedophile, rapist, mass murderer, blah blah blah (Stughfurullah)? Of course I already know your answer to this, it's a rhetorical question.

سلام

 

That's NOT what Muslims believe.. That's what YOU believe.

They believe that since the beginning of time ALL who submitted to the Will of God were "submitters"..

 

The Turkish Foreign Minister foreign minister is correct war would be a disaster. War would kill America's feeble recovery. Thousands of soldiers and civilians would die and Iran's government would only be more determined to build a nuclear weapon.

 

Here are a dozen reasons Christians should not support the Israeli war-mongers:

1) Israel is one of the most secular countries on earth. Israel's founders were mostly secular. Theodor Herzl and Max Nordau were atheists.

2) Many Israelis, both secular and religious, despise and ridicule Christianity. Christian missionaries face restrictions in Israel. Harassment is common.

CHRISTIAN JEWS ARRESTED, PERSECUTED IN ISRAEL

Christians Discriminated Against by Israel

3) Atheist Communist Joseph Stalin can be considered one of Israel’s founding fathers. He provided the weapons the Zionists needed to ethnically cleanse the Palestinians.

4) The Zionists cooperated with the Nazis.

Jews Against Zionism

5) The Israelis, not the Palestinians, have been the principle aggressors.

Begins Admission in 1982 That Israel Started Three of Its Wars

6) The Zionists have committed numerous terrorist acts against the Palestinians.

List of Irgun attacks

7) The Zionists massacred whole villages of Palestinians, including children and the elderly, and drove people from their homes. How would you feel if you were driven from your home?

Survival of the Fittest? An Interview with Benny Morris

8 ) The Israelis are eager war profiteers.

Israeli arms dealers join Lieberman's entourage to Africa
Except for a few civilian enterprises, almost all Israeli activity in Africa is related to weapons exports.

9) There is nothing in the Bible that obliges Christians to support Israel. In fact we should condemn Israel for their brutality. The belief that Israel is still favored by God after their rejection of the Messiah is un-Biblical and un-Christian.

The Israel of God

10) Many of the worst anti-Christian fanatics - like Christopher Hitchens and Sam Harris - are dedicated Muslim-haters.

11) Israel has attacked civilians in Lebanon and Gaza.

For Israel, Innocent Civilians Are Fair Game

Could Israel Be Charged With War Crimes?
The repeated bombing of clearly marked civilian buildings is a flagrant violation of international law.

12) Israel discriminates against the Palestinians.

Israeli Discrimination Against Non-Jews Is Carefully Codified in State of Israel's Laws

UN blasts Israeli marriage law

Discrimination Against Palestinian Arab Children in Israel’s Schools

quote: Nearly one in four of Israel’s 1.6 million schoolchildren are educated in a public school system wholly separate from the majority. The children in this parallel school system are Israeli citizens of Palestinian Arab origin. Their schools are a world apart in quality from the public schools serving Israel’s majority Jewish population. Often overcrowded and understaffed, poorly built, badly maintained, or simply unavailable, schools for Palestinian Arab children offer fewer facilities and educational opportunities than are offered other Israeli children.

 

I wonder how many of the Anti-Jew Anti-Israeli Anti-Zionist crowd here at pf.com are Swarthy or folks of Color ( Minorities) )or cover ( followers of Islam)

 

People yapping about the strategy of MAD dont know what they are talking about.

The Soviets never abided by the doctrine of MAD. They had no doubt they could and would WIN a nuclear exchange and the conventional war which would follow with the west.

Not even the US air force advocated MAD.


More hot air about that silly doctrine.


Heres a fact if every nation is armed with nukes, one of the kooks is goin to believe as the Soviets did, that they can WIN! ...and they will push the button.


MAD is a myth.

 

The war with Iran has been augmented, in such a way that it is now inevitable.

The war is needed for 4 reasons...

-To distract the populace, from internal affairs as the powers that be, rapidly accelerate national socialism within the United States and Europe - as all wars do.

-To further destabilize the world economy and the world in general, to further push towards a centralized world government as the "solution"

-To further the profits of the elite few, who not only are members of the Council on Foreign Relations, but are CEOs of defense contractors such as Lockheed Martin, Boeing, Northrop Grumman etc. The industrial military complex needs war to make profits.

-Financial elite will hedge their bets on the looming global crisis as a result of the large-scale regional Middle Eastern war.

This is the same Modus Operandi that has been used throughout history. Watch it all unfold.

 

The Turks want to get their share of Syria, then they and the Saudis et al. can attack Iran the same way they did to Syria.
Then they can go after Russia, then Europe will fall and then the USA.

But their treachery will come back on them much sooner than they expect.

 

They are not Biblical Israel. Christian Europeans, Russians, Americans and many other nations are Israel.

God destroyed the old Talmudic power center in 70 A.D..........since then apostate Christians encouraged, protected, armed and financed the Talmudists to rebuild their power center.

Since most Christians don't want "nature's God" to rule them, He has given them other rulers per the Curses of the Law, as specified by the Prophets. One, Moses, says, "Those that hate you rule over you." Lev. 26:17

 

An attack on Iran would certainly be disastrous, for Turkey that is. Iran said that if it is attacked, they will retaliate on Turkey harshly for allowing the Nato radar installations. There is now a Cold War between them.

 

Turkey would smack Iran back to the stone age.

 

The Turks are going to take on Russia ... then EUROPE ... THEN the US?

Is Goku involved in this?

 

Talk about historical revisionism. MAD is not a myth, and until Ivor provides reputable sources for jhis absurd assertions I will ignore those statements as trash dropped on the thread. Sooner or later one of Israel's Arab neighbors will have nukes; for all we know the Saudis have a few stashed away that they purchased from the Russians on the black market.