Convince me to vote for the Romney/Ryan ticket

I bet he authors a bill or two the President will present to Congress. He won't be completely without anything to do.

 

I see no reason to vote for R&R. The best thing they have going for them is that they will destroy the country slower than Barry and the gaggle of rejects.

R&R will continue the perpetual state of war the USofA has been involved in since wwI.


The only candidate running who will bring real positive change is, Paul


He wont win, but I will be able to sleep at night after casting my vote for him.

 

When Obama won Ryan's democratic district by 4% over McCain, Ryan won reelection with 65% of the vote. He is well liked and very rational.

Smart Democrats Should Be Worried

 

Clueless, or having too many clues?
Would be an interesting new thread topic to ask undecided voters why?

 

Now that is indeed very good to follow up on. Thanks

 

The first thing to be answered is why would anyone vote for Obama? He really has not accomplished one valid thing as President that is positive and helpful. Except for biased, gullible idiots, it should be ABO!

 

Other than foreign policy issues, including those rare occasions needing a vote from the VP, and the picking of people with the advice and consent of the Senate, "it's not Camelot stupid" is more true than "it's the economy stupid," one might assume someone with business experience might be better at being an efficient executive.

At most the president can make Congress work harder for more spending by having to overide a veto; he cannot impound like every president from Washington to Nixon.

If you can't stand Romney more than Obama, what facts on all (if possible) issues, would one list?

Fact is, Reagan wanted School prayer, a line item veto, to end payments to Luciano Pavarotti and $125,000,000 to Zimbabwe's Mugabe...a lot of facts and issues he did not get.

Is Jimmy Carter in "Why Not the Best?" saying, "Is a practical and comprehensive national health care program beyond the capacity of our American government? I think not," a fact? Yes. But his walking down Pennsylvania Avenue Camelot like the second coming did not do it.

Just because it is a fact of math that Social Security goes broke faster with lower FICA taxes, not enough people working, or 1/3 or 50% diverted to private accounts does not mean Ryan facts will happen.

What is reality, it is very little of that "will change," "will alter," "will create," "will audit" in post #2, that can be done, as it is NOT Camelot!

If you want more more capitalism at the Federal level and less socialism facts, believe it is a fact that Romney/Ryan less taxes creates jobs and will not increase deficits like Bush's taxes did, if both houses of Congress becomes a fact, Romney/Ryan is the only choice.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MfZUcDDhbpM

If you like the ubbergubermint taxing individuals for not buying private products, States existing only to pick State flowers, and want the friendly to the party of you cannot buy nor sell if your personal views do not have the mark of gay chickens marrying, for less breasts, pick Obama. {a little chick humor}

Facts and issues depend upon more than the president for all issues except those already established, see 213 to 213 vote before the bombing of the Chinese Embassy:

“I shall vote against this bill because it is patently unconstitutional and gives the President power he does not now have,” Bella S. Abzug (D N.Y.) stated. “…I fear that it does exactly the opposite of what we set out to do: that is, to prevent the President, any president, from usurping the power of Congress to declare war.” (1973, CQ ALMANAC-917)

As to whether Romney/Ryan would get us into a war with Iran...other than Obama doing it, which is pretty much the biggest variable, how do you predict those facts?

Fact, Jimmy Carter walked into peace, looking forward to fixing our problems, and in left with every chess piece in place in Afghanstan and Iran for chain of events leading to war with Iraq.

Fact: “Never before has our nation enjoyed, at once, so much prosperity and social progress with so little internal crisis and so few external threats.” (2000 State of the Union Address Thursday, January 27, 2000)

“War? We ain't got no war! We don't need no war! I don't have to show you any stinking war!” {Bill Clinton 1998}

Fact: “I first met Democratic presidential hopeful Senator Barack Obama almost ten years ago when, as my representative in the Illinois state senate, he came to speak at the University of Chicago. He impressed me as progressive, intelligent and charismatic. I distinctly remember thinking 'if only a man of this calibre could become president one day.'“……“He is merely doing what he thinks is necessary to get elected and he will continue doing it as long as it keeps him in power.” (How Barack Obama learned to love Israel, Ali Abunimah, The Electronic Intifada, 4 March 2007)

Like McCain facts in three debates could not articulate to Obama's questions as to why an invasion without WMD, when the Biden-Lugar amendment was rejected and it would have limited the war to disarming Saddam, irregardless of these facts:

“H32. Requires Iraq to inform the Security Council that it will not commit or support any act of international terrorism or allow any organization directed towards commission of such acts to operate within its territory and to condemn unequivocally and renounce all acts, methods and practices of terrorism;
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33. Declares that, upon official notification by Iraq to the Secretary-General and to the Security Council of its acceptance of the provisions above, a formal cease-fire is effective between Iraq and Kuwait and the Member States cooperating with Kuwait in accordance with resolution 678 (1990);” http://www.fas.org/news/un/iraq/sres/sres0687.htm

“March 5, 2003: Bus bombing in Haifa. U.S. citizens killed: Abigail Leitel, 14, who was born in Lebanon, New Hampshire.” http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/Terrorism/usvictims.html

“The suicide bomber was 20 years old, a student of the Hebron Polytechnic University (from which a large number of suicide bombers have emerged) and a member of the Hamas terrorist organization.” http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/861590/posts

March 13, 2003: “(CBS) Saddam Hussein has distributed $260,000 to 26 families of Palestinians killed in 29 months of fighting with Israel, including a $10,000 check to the family of a Hamas suicide bomber. In a packed banquet hall on Wednesday, the families came one-by-one to receive their $10,000 checks. A large banner said: ‘The Arab Baath Party Welcomes the Families of the Martyrs for the Distribution of Blessings of Saddam Hussein.’“ http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2003/03/14/world/main543981.shtml

March 17, 2003: “The regime has a history of reckless aggression in the Middle East. It has a deep hatred of America and our friends. And it has aided, trained and harbored terrorists, including operatives of al Qaeda.”http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2003/03/20030317-7.html

McCain deserved to lose because he could not articulate simple facts that Saddam violated UN resolution 1441 which recalled 687, by supporting terrorism, and the Senate authorized the war with no such Biden-Lugar only war on WMD reservations.

If Romney/Ryan cannot explain the Ryan math facts of voting for 1/3 or 50% of FICA diverted to private accounts, and how they works without increased FICA taxes, they deserve to lose.

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There is obviously a perceived threat to Social Security, when we cannot renegotiate all our old employment contracts because ex post facto is illegal for everyone except a Constitutional professor pandering to his base, with any vote for a conservative (when conservative is not conservative of existing liberal programs but is right wing and liberal is left wing). And this guy is a commie:

"Another means of silently lessening the inequality of property is to exempt all from taxation below a certain point, and to tax the higher portions of property in geometrical progression as they rise." (Thomas Jefferson to James Madison, 28 Oct. 1785) http://press-pubs.uchicago.edu/founders/documents/v1ch15s32.html

If something does not work--regardless of whether you think it is because of the party of no or business sitting on their wealth for more favorable taxes--do you just keep doing it and "hope" for change?

 

Obama has been a disaster. A huge disaster in his first two years, when he had a Dem Congress to pass everyhting he wanted. All of which accelerated us towards the cliff.

Once he GOP got the House, Obama's ineptitude has been neutered, but not stopped, as we see with Executive Orders, and still a need to get things done that the Dem Senate will not do.

We need to stop the madness which is the cliff we are heading off. Doing nothing is not a solution. Pick one:

1) Obama and a GOP Congress to solve the problems.

2) Romney and a GOP Congress to solve the probelms.

It ain't close.

 

Thank you for your well formulated response.

 

http://www.defense.gov/releases/release.aspx?releaseid=2306

You do realize that the current defense budget of 600 billion is roughly double what it was in 2001 right?

 

Corporations are people, and money is free speech.

Some dirty liberal supreme court justice might think about disagreeing with that type of judicial activist reinterpretation of the Constitution, therefore we need Romney!

 

Does anyone want 4 more years of this?



Ryan/Romney 2012!
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You mean the economic crash we had due to the Repubs and Demo's?? The same parties that BOTH screwed the American people?? Not really...

Gary Johnson will get my vote...

 

Has the house you lived in had it's value decreased?
Have you seen the normal wage increase you use to prior to Obama?
Did the stimulus help "you"?
Do you see more and more homes for sale as you drive to work daily?
Do you like to see your president "bow" to foreign leaders?
Did the shooting of the border guard bother you at all?
Do you "trust" the United Nations? (Obama is in their pocket)
Have you seen or noticed the rise in racism being tossed about?
Do you trust and want big and even bigger government?

Romney is the answer to turn that around.

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=KjGXKD91Gtk
See if that helps with your decision. I an assuming you ARE an american registered voter?

 

That happened under Bush, and I suspect for most people that is the case.

So you are not really helping by bringing that one up, because then you have to explain why regulating the housing market it is not in any president's Job Description. That would be the job description of Congress.

If you want to quote James Bovard on "Lost Rights" with regard to Zoning laws, which once forbid me to build an 850 sqft house on stilts where they claimed a watershed to force larger lot sizes in the 6% black county next to the 44.5% black one, in a State with 31% black, or go back and look at the NAACP lawsuit from the 70's with regard to Zoning laws being racially discriminatory, and the suit being dropped in 1979, the year of the Community Reinvestment Act, and the lack of regulations to deal with that, feel free.

Bring up Reagun saying, "they should have just bought them a house," with regard to New York public housing spending $30,000 in rent to house a couple when public housing was unavailble, which prompted me to build an 1140 sqft house for $29281.23, to see if it could be done. The house grandpa lived in was 850 sqft. The requirement now is more like 2000 sqft and 2.5 acres; so figure that into your calculations for why someone might have to get a loan that strains DTI.

The simple fact is that if you want Congress regulating the housing market, and banking (DTI), ask for it:

"BOARD OF GOVERNORS OF THE FEDERAL RESERVE SYSTEM DivisIoN OF BANKING SUPERVISION AND REGULATION Date: September 30, 2005:"
"Another parameter that could be combined with LTV ratios to determine capital requirements might be a capacity measure such as a debt-to-income ratio." http://www.federalreserve.gov/BOARDDOCS/PRESS/BCREG/2005/20051006/Basel1Amemo.pdf

"The Charles Schwab Corporation ("Schwab,,)l appreciates the opportunity to comment on the Advance Notice of Proposed Rulemaking ("ANPR") issued by the Office of the Comptroller of the Currency, the Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve System, the Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation and the Office of Thrift Supervision (together, the "Agencies") regarding proposed revisions to the Agencies' existing domestic risk-based capital rules...

...P. 14 Another parameter that could be combined with LTV ratios to determine capital requirements might be a capacity measure such as a debt-to-income (DTI) ratio. The Agencies seek comment on (1) the use of an assessment mechanism based on LTV ratios in combination with credit assessments, debt-to-income ratios, or other relevant measures of credit quality; (2) the impact of the use of credit scores on the availability of credit orprices for lower income borrowers, and (3) whether LTVs and other measures of credit worthiness should be updated annually or quarterly and how theseparameters might be updated to accurately reflect the changing risk of a mortgage loan as it matures and asproperty values and borrower's credit assessmentsfluctuate. While we do support the use of combining LTV and industry standard FICO type credit scores in a risk-weighted capital guideline, as noted above, we do not support the inclusion of a capacity measure such as debt-to-income ratio (DTI). Our concern regarding the inclusion of such a measure is two-fold: (1) DTI is a much more subjective measurement than LTV or FICO score, and is not consistently calculated and applied by all lenders. Different lenders will calculate both income and debts using various guidelines. Additionally, some lenders will base DTI calculations only on verified income, while others may rely on stated income. There is too much variability in how this measurement is calculated and applied for it to be a meaningful guide to risk-based capital guidelines. And, (2) statistics have shown that DTI is a much less robust predictor of probability of default, or loss given default, than FICO scores and LTVs.

We do not believe that the use of credit scores in the risk-based capital guidelines will have a negative impact on the availability or price of credit to lower income borrowers. While the cost of capital can generally affect loan availability and price, we do not believe that applicant income is necessarily correlated with credit score. Many applicants with lower incomes have acceptable credit scores, while many applicants with high incomes have unacceptable credit scores. Banks are motivated to grant loans to generate revenue and profit, and most banks have very progressive mortgage programs for lower-income and fIrst-time homebuyers. The Community Reinvestment Act provides additional motivation for banks to reach out to meet the credit needs of the low-to-moderate income borrowers in their assessment areas" (January 17,2006, http://files.ots.treas.gov/comments/3173270d-dbd0-4b64-b398-487753ad9f27.pdf )

"Fed to discuss max 50% debt-to-income ratio for borrowers, prohibition on 'stated-income' loans to subprime borrowers, and other new rules" (May 29th, 2007, 3:38 pm) http://mortgage.freedomblogging.com...ns-to-subprime-borrowers-and-other-new-rules/

Oh, my, isn't that special:

"Your debt-to-income ratio
36% or less: This is a healthy debt load to carry for most people.

37%-42%: Not bad, but start paring debt now before you get in real trouble.

43%-49%: Financial difficulties are probably imminent unless you take immediate action.

50% or more: Get professional help to aggressively reduce debt.

Source: Gerri Detweiler, author of The Ultimate Credit Handbook"
http://www.usnews.com/usnews/biztech/tools/modebtratio.htm

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All you did was bring up a lack of regulations to deal with the Community Reinvestment Act and banking, and restrictive zoning regulations to prevent the Real Estate "principle of regression" and make poor blacks increase their DTI for a greater possiblity of default like CNN's Bernita Jones, with that gem.

 

We tried De-regulating banking and housing and look what happened.
I'll take heavy regulation myself, I got to keep much more of my then!

 

Only biased gullible idiots would think the President hasn't accomplished anything.

 

Here is all the reasons in the world right here NOT to vote for either of these clowns Romney OR Obama.
this is why everything else that people have come on posting in favor of Romney is all irrelevent.It cant stand up to these facts.
http://www.politicalforum.com/elect...ns-why-you-fool-if-you-vote-obama-romney.html
they also cant stand up to the facts in these links on this page and the next page I posted or the facts Reckoning Provided on the last page.

http://www.politicalforum.com/elect...-why-you-fool-if-you-vote-obama-romney-8.html

http://www.politicalforum.com/elect...-why-you-fool-if-you-vote-obama-romney-9.html

 

The Poorest American Cities of 2008 (1-30)

1. Detroit, 33.3% in poverty--Democrat Mayor for the last 52 years
2. Cleveland, 30.5% in poverty--Democrat Mayor for the last 20 years
3. Buffalo, 30.3% in poverty--Democrat Mayor for the last 43 years
4. Newark, 26.1% in poverty--Democrat Mayor for the last 102 years
5. Miami, 25.6% in poverty--Democrat Mayor for the last 52 years
6. Fresno, 25.5% in poverty--Republican Mayor for the last 13 years
7. Cincinnati, 25.1% in poverty--Democrat Mayor for the last 29 years
8. Toledo, 24.7% in poverty--Democrat Mayor for the last 20 years
9. El Paso, 24.3% in poverty--Democrat Mayor for the last 120 years
10. Philadelphia, 24.1% in poverty--Democrat Mayor for the last 57 years
11. Milwaukee, 23.4% in poverty--Democrat Mayor for the last 49 years
12. Memphis, 23.1% in poverty--Democrat Mayor for the last 133 years
13. St. Louis, 22.9% in poverty--Democrat Mayor for the last 60 years
14. Dallas, 22.6% in poverty--Republican Mayor for the last 2 years
14 New Orleans,22.6% in poverty-Democrat Mayor for the last 141 years
16. Atlanta, 22.4% in poverty--Democrat Mayor for the last 130 years
17. Stockton, Calif., 21.6% in poverty--No info available--probably Libs
18. Minneapolis, 21.3% in poverty--Democrat Mayor for the last 35 years
19. Pittsburgh, 21.2% in poverty--Democrat Mayor for the last 21 years
20. Tucson, 20.9% in poverty--No info available--probably Libs
21. Chicago, 20.6% in poverty--Democrat Mayor for the last 78 years
22. Columbus,Ohio 20.1% in poverty-Democrat Mayor for the last 9 years
23. Long Beach, Calif., 19.8% in poverty--No info available--probably Libs
24. Houston, 19.5% in poverty--Democrat Mayor for the last 88 years
25 Los Angeles,19.4% in poverty--Democrat Mayor for "the last 8 years"
26. Baltimore, 19.3% in poverty--Democrat Mayor for the last 42 years
27 San Antonio,19.2% in poverty--Democrat Mayor for the last 38 years
28. Phoenix, 18.9% in poverty--Democrat Mayor for the last 5 years
29. Boston, 18.7% in poverty--Democrat Mayor for the last 79 years
30. Denver, 18.4% in poverty----Democrat Mayor for the last 46 years

.......Any Questions?

.......Romney/Ryan 2012
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So what convinces you that Romney/Ryan would actually improve anything?
Are you sure they aren't just promising?
Will they bring our jobs back from overseas?
Will they solve the housing and job market?
Will they bring about a HC proposal that is not a disgrace to the USA?
Will they make us energy independent?
Will they solve the illegal immigration issue once and for all?
Or shall we believe that promises will be kept, things will change for the better for all Americans?

 

Yes.

 

There is a proven track record of what works in the US.....and a proven track record of what is Failing around the world.....Romney/Ryan would take this country towards the former.....while Democrats continue to insist on the latter.

I wouldnt call Romney/Ryan the solution....but they represent a giant leap in that direction.
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I think obama has done all the convincing you need my friend. Liberals want big government and more control over your personal life, and conservatives believe in the American dream and that you should be able to reep the benefits of your own hard work. If you want to pay for everyone else's welfare, and food stamps, and health care, then vote obama. If you want to live your own life without a bunch of restrictions and taxes, vote romney.