34 Reasons Romney and Obama are the Same Person

Seeing as how I abhor Obama, seeing his brother from another mother in office wouldn't make me feel any better.

 

Here...here

 

People wanting to say that Obama and Romney are similar... show readily that they believe there is no difference between the Republican and Democratic Platforms.

Yes, I know that neither is held to 'perfectly', but they (the respective platforms) DO tend to define the party which embraces them.

 

Incorrect. The platforms are different, but they are just words. Anyone can say anything they want in this world, but it doesn't make it at all true. We bring up records and you speak of 'platforms'.

They define the sentiment of political discourse, not action. Romney was a pro-gay marriage, pro-health care, pro-gun control governor in action.

 

I disagree with you there. Those words have meaning, and they guide many within the given party. Not perfectly/absolutely so, I admit... but many do seek to live up to them. If nothing else, those "words" define what Democrats (as a group) will PUSH for; and that impetus has the tendency to guide the candidate elected by that group.

Yes, I do. And surely, Obama's actual political record does not MATCH Romney's; they are different in so many ways... it isn't even worth debating.

Okay, you believe that; I see more in it than you do. We disagree.

Romney and Obama are surely not the same. Even if it's only important nuances we are examining... they are surely not the same.

 

By saying Obama and Romney are different without elaborating is pretty much throwing in the towel. Obama took healthcare from Romney, both supported the bailouts, both agreed with the NDAA and Patriot Act, and likely SOPA and CISPA, both are warmongers, both are corporate bootlickers, among many other things, most which have been stated by TS. These are irrefutable facts.

And I still don't understand the Democrats love affair with Obama. Isn't the left supposed to be pro social freedom with "progressive" taxation? He's absolutely raped our rights, and all he's done is redistribute wealth from the borderline rich/upper middle class/middle class/working class/poor to the uber rich. The only guys who should like the guy are neoconservatives, and they're the ones who hate him. And then they turn around and nominate his clone........Jesus.

What a (*)(*)(*)(*)ing mess. I wish people weren't so stupid.

 

Okay then. Consider my towel thrown-in, bleached and already on spin.

Politically, there may be similarities... but I don't have to be any political genius to see/understand that Romney and Obama will lead this nation in different ways/directions.

 

If you're so sure, just list a couple.

 

I'm not going to try and define this stuff here any longer; I think the obvious will present itself, as time passes.

Others can continue this if they will, but I'm out. Peace.

 

Whoa whoa. Wasteful? Tell me why you consider it wasteful! Our space program has advanced so many technologies and helped keep us ahead of all the other nations. Any nation that gives up on space exploration has given up on its future.

But yes they are the same really. We got a choice between Obama and Obama Light. The media shoved Mitt down our throats, and Republicans can only blame themselves for allowing that propaganda to work. Actually I don't even think the old phrase "lesser of two evils" would even apply to either of them.

 

The OP is "more of the same" which is ironic considering what the topic is about - just more of the same clamoring that we always here about "The GOP and Democrats are all crooks! (except for Ron Paul)." It gets old and it doesn't offer a solution to the problem. At least Romney voters are smart enough to understand that he's the better of the 2.

 

Romney care was not written buy Romney anymore than Obama care was written by Obama. It was written in fact by the Democrats that have Ironclad control of of the Massachusetts State Legislature for most of the last 100 years. The only reason that Massachussetts isn't as screwed up as California is Romney.

The last time this country got even remotely close to a balanced budget was when the Republicans ran both houses of congress from 1995-2001. For doing so virtually all of them have been trashed and villified by the same of leftist guttersnipes, Populist buttheads, and unfortuantely liberatarians some of which should know better.

I will no longer eve consider voting for libertarians because the party has become largely the home comspiracy whack jobs, economic know nothings, and people who thing history began in 1948.

 

^^Proving, once more that the poster neglects to read anything in the thread before commenting with something applicable to the topic....again. No arguing of the point presented, just a whitewash.


Typical.

 

Then why are you so cruel as to blame Obama? If it was not written by him, why then does he take the blame in your eyes?

Says the man who probably didn't look at Romney's statements while governor, his initiatives, nor his job creation (loss) record.

Oh bother! When you can't make an argument just start deflecting by creating specious and deceitful assumptions. Avoid the thread in the future then if you can't make an argument about the subject.

 

a) more than a few of the items on your list shouldn't be there.. b) their similarities are next to meaningless (with respect to the election; unless you wish to talk about a serious third candidate; or unless you wish to discuss your opposition to their position).. c) their differences are worthy of discussion..

 

We've discussed our opposition to their position in other threads, and we've stated our preference for other candidates in those threads. This thread is about their similarities. Would you care to discuss those? You've said more than a few shouldn't be there. Name them and tell us why?

 

Originally Posted by harvardpit
a) more than a few of the items on your list shouldn't be there.. b) their similarities are next to meaningless (with respect to the election; unless you wish to talk about a serious third candidate; or unless you wish to discuss your opposition to their position).. c) their differences are worthy of discussion..

this thread is boring.. posting for the sake of posting is not my cup of tea.. i have a laundry to fold.. a lawn to mow.. sausage and ribs to purchase.. sauce to make.. wine to buy.. etc.. etc.. etc..

 

The words actually are pretty meaningless. Look at George Bushs presidency and compare that to Republican beliefs. Look at what Obama said about ending the wars and look at where we are today. Look at the "small, fiscally sound" conservatives and look at the massive amounts of spending and expansion of government authority they vote for. Just because you say you're going to do something doesn't mean you're going to do it. People lie all the time, especially politicians.

Also we're on page 7. Several people have said these guys are massively different yet not one person has provided any evidence to back up this claim. If it's so blatantly obvious then please post some evidence. It'd also be nice if people would stop ripping on Libertarians. Clearly you all don't know any because they are the most reasonable people I've ever met. It's the people who self ID as democrats or republicans who I am more likely to have conflict with because they want their will forced on me, usually because they have arbitrarily deemed something as bad somehow, most likely because someone told them to think that way.

 

So, basically you can't. Thought so.

 

Because if you say harry and nancy care people get confused. And I've refered to it as harry and nancy care on several occassions. All Obam did was sign the (*)(*)(*)(*) thing and I doubt if he read it either.

 

So you don't blame him then?

 

I blame him for signing it and asking for it but not for writing it. Romney tried as best he could to modify the bill now called Romney care in Massachusetts but it was going to be whether he liked it or not as the Dems had a veto proof majority throughout most of his term. When you are bargaining from a position of weakness you aren't going to get most of what you want or like.

 

The words are only "meaningless", for those who would ascribe no practical applications to them. I know that is true from being a supervisor of many different people over my career. You can write down the best ideas/rules imagined... but if people won't adhere to those ideas, they don't mean anything.

You may not believe it... but many Democrats or Republicans DO look at what their party's platform states and are energized and/or guided by the same.

So, I agree with you somewhat (in part)... but not overall. Also, think what you want, but I have (over time) learned that a President typically goes with where the party he is affiliated with is leaning. The "President" is where most tend to focus... but the members of the party tend to guide him.

 

Because government allocates resources far less efficiently than the free market does.

Wrong. The free market and economic expansion is what has kept us ahead of all other nations. The government had nothing to do with it.

Nonsense. You're also assuming that space exploration wouldn't happen if the government wasn't carrying a monopoly on it.

 

What is it that most Democrats wanted? Check the poll numbers. You can also blame the millions of Americans (like myself) who advocated for EVEN MORE which opposed what you thought was 'right'. I even remember PUSHING those who represent me to go for SINGLE PAYER (and I STILL am). Yeah, I was disappointed too, but I believe we went in the correct 'direction' as a nation.

Point being: It wasn't just the "President" who signed the Bill; there was a LOT behind him doing that.

Of course. Politics and this nation's political system is what it is. There is both give/take AND compromise. So be it.