America, We Have A Problem

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  1. Agent_286

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    America, We Have A Problem

    By Jared Bernstein | HuffPost | 08/30/12
    Senior Fellow, Center on Budget and Policy Priorities
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    “When Rep. Paul Ryan was nominated, I welcomed the choice because, even while I documented ways in which his numbers don't add up, and while we at CBPP documented his reverse Robin Hood'ism, he espouses a vision of government's role that is very different from my own as discussed here. As he says, this is the debate we need to have.

    But I also worried, loudly, that we won't have that vital debate if we are not highly vigilant. Yes, we need to have this debate, but "... whether we actually have it will be up to the candidates, the media, the fact-checkers, and analysts like those of us at CBPP who try to break things down in ways they can be understood."

    Following Ryan's acceptance speech, the fact checkers and many in the media have been working hard to correct the many falsehoods.

    The Plum Line blog at the WaPo, for instance, has been on that case, contributing their own analysis and collecting relevant links.

    The fact checkers, including Politifact, Factcheck.org, and those Pinocchio fetishists at the WaPo have also been making great contributions. I have criticized these groups when they get stuff wrong and not been nearly supportive enough when they get it right, which is the vast majority of the time.

    But what's got me very worried today is the blatant acceptance of post-truthiness that one feels creeping deeply into our national debate. Most of the news stories on the speeches from the convention focus on the emotional, the personal stories, the strategic (did the speech accomplish its goal...did it rally the base... did it appeal to interest group?), the political horse race.

    And then there's this other section of the show or the newspaper-if you're lucky or interested in going there - that asks... um... how much of what you just heard was true?

    Think about this for a second. Just the fact that newspapers now need a fact-check section is itself evidence that we're deep into the post-truth era. There's the news... and then there's the question of how much of the news is true.

    There are distinct choices in how societies deal with these challenges, how they apportion risk, how they decide which of these functions are critical and how they pay their costs.

    And today, with so much disinformation and post-truthiness, I'm having a hard time seeing how we will be able to make the right choices in a true democratic manner.”

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/jared-bernstein/america-we-have-a-problem_b_1845244.html
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    We have a problem with a slanted media, which often takes sides and blots the other side out, with the result of uneven dialogue with no one really getting the truth, but merely what one side wants to put out for public consumption.

    The thought of citizens seriously, symbolically going to the polls under the impression they are voting for the ‘right’ person is a huge joke on the citizen.

    That ‘right’ person is a carefully contrived, concocted, facsimile of what the power structure thinks you should be voting for. Unless you can make the distinction between truth and falsehood, you will make a mistake as you fill out your ballot on November 6th.
     
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    DonGlock26 New Member Past Donor

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    The problem is about to be voted out of office.
     
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    gamewell45 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Keep dreaming partner. :)
     
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    pocket aces Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Yep replaced by another liberal. Dumbasses.
     
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    webrockk Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The progressive leftist infiltrated Fourth Estate exposed, shamed and discredited...
    they evolve....driven to create and pass off as credible, their very own internet based "fact checker" blogosphere.

    as if what called their credibility into question in the first place
    never happened.
     
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    Wrong. Thats not the problem. The problem is Progressive neo-communist leftist loserism and the Obama voters and the dishonest agenda driven press who enable that America hating loser.
     
  7. Agent_286

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    u b kiddn, rite?
     
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    If the right, thoroughly recognized and adjudged as liars ,refuse to adjust their agenda, then they must of necessity be termed as 'entertainment'...ie: Faux News....Rush Limbaugh.
     
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    This piece, like the last one you posted, comes off as whiny and fit throwing.

    Sounds to me like the degenerates on the left lost their binky and don't like it when they don't get their way.

    Here have one, I got extra stock because you kids seem to be using alot lately:

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    1) uhh..It is a physical impossibility for 'a piece to come off as whiny and fit throwing;' it is an inanimate object. It is rather the emotional reaction from the reader that is likely to cause the response you elicited in your reply. WTF, maybe you lost your binky....

    2) Every degenerate person on the right is free to take what suits them from the various articles, with accompanying analysis, that I post.
     
  11. Ivan88

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    We have had a problem:
    [video=youtube;IAwPqfJqccA]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IAwPqfJqccA&feature=related[/video]
    CIA gal spills details on official lies and schemes for war
     
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    The fourth estate is owned by the right wing corporations. They sure have you fooled. I wish you were right and that they were in fact infiltrated by progressives. Then, there would be real news and Romney/Ryan would be limited to saying only things that were true.
     
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    So, the OP is SERIOUSLY trying ot pretend that the media is SLANTED TO THE RIGHT????!!!!!


    BWAAHAHAHAAHAHAAHAHAHA!! OMIGOSH!!! MY SIDES ARE HURTING!!!???? :laughing:
     
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    But will those same fact checkers be there after Obama's speech, that will be the real question.
     
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    webrockk Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Another progressive leftist who will not...cannot... admit to leftie bias in purportedly "objective" national "news" alphabet and print media......in the face of their admissions to such.

    (but did just come right out and admit to their obvious penchant for trying to silence disagreeable speech)
     
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    The executive editor of the NYT claims that the NYT has no liberal bias.


    The media will even lie to itself.
     
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    Yep. His name is Barack Obama.
     
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    Oh, they'll still be there. And they'll still be in the tank for Barack Obama.
     
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    kk8 New Member Past Donor

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    OMG! If we want to read the Huffington Post we will visit their site! PLEASE STOP POSTING THIS BS EVERY DAY!!
     
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    Listen, when you have to give out free convention tickets at a bar in a desperate bid to fill seats, it is game over.


    Why do you think Pelosi and Hillary are NOT going to be there? They want to be part of a Democrat political future, and Obama won't be in it.
     

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