The R word and N word are the same thing

The OED doesn't have different online and print definitions. I'm sure a new edition (and probably the current edition) of their print dictionaries would contain the definition I quoted.

You're certainly free to claim that the current definition has been "corrupted by political correctness" but you can't exclude the OED (on-line or in print) from that accusation. Of course, you're also free to explain why the longer definition is incorrect in the context of contemporary use.

 

Racists frequently attempt to distort the meaning of words to excuse the racist behavior.

 

What are the main differences between the OED and ODO?


The OED and the dictionaries in ODO are themselves very different. While ODO focuses on the current language and practical usage, the OED shows how words and meanings have changed over time.

 

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The True Definition Of Racism

By Daniel Miessler on May 22nd, 2007: Tagged as PC | Philosophy | Politics | Race | Racism


Racism means many things to many people. Oxford says it’s “the belief that there are characteristics, abilities, or qualities specific to each race”.

The common use of the word is far more malicious and, in my opinion, ill-informed. Most people use the word to mean “any sort of behavior or view that reflects negatively on a race other than their own.”

 

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The True Definition Of Racism

By Daniel Miessler on May 22nd, 2007: Tagged as PC | Philosophy | Politics | Race | Racism


Racism means many things to many people. Oxford says it’s “the belief that there are characteristics, abilities, or qualities specific to each race”.

The common use of the word is far more malicious and, in my opinion, ill-informed. Most people use the word to mean “any sort of behavior or view that reflects negatively on a race other than their own.”

 

in sweden, first we called them negrer (negroes) then svarta (blacks) and now, even that's not good enough. Now we say mörkhyad which means dark skinned. Why do I have a problem with this? Because it doesn't solve anything, it only taints a word, then moves on to another and taints that one. And each step gets less descriptive and accurate of what you're actually trying to describe. dark skinned for example is understood to refer to negroes but it could apply to a white guy with dirt in his face. really unaccurate if what you're trying to say is black. This cowardice and silliness of trying to avoid words by replacing them with other words while everyone still knows that you meant the first word is silly. it's not even okay to say dark skinned anymore, soon.

 

WOW! Really?

 

How very racist of you really. You group together ALL white people for what some white's did. that's some real stone age group think right there. and not only that, that generation is long gone. But somehow, you feel that the children to those people are born with their parents guilt, and then onto their children. and also, all children of the same colour that move to the US. really, I cannot with words describe this hypocricy, this utter idiocity.

 

Actually that would be Negro. Two different words, even if they are used for the same people. The N word, as he said, comes from the nation of Niger.

 

You don't know me, so you misunderstand; however, I did not say ALL "White Americans"... but I did clearly refer to "White American historical offenses".

There is a LEGACY effect that comes with the above mentioned. Yes, even the "children" of ALL races affected know/feel the history I mentioned. It's not "guilt"... it is long-standing social effects. I don't BLAME any (especially younger) White person or Black person standing before me today for the what has affected them (or myself); but we darned sure BETTER be willing to address those LEGACY EFFECTS I already pointed out before.

If the problems were as clear and simple to understand as you infer above... these serious issues with race in America (specifically) would have been mostly mitigated by now. But it's deeper than that, and I believe that you and others should know that.

Call me whatever you wish, but expect me to be CONSISTENT where those things I previously mentioned are concerned. I've been paying attention to these things ALL OF MY ADULT LIFE; this problem (racism) is deep and profound; and I want Americans (particularly) to know it.

 

One thing is certain nevertheless: If we (really) want to get along with people (human beings) on any level... we'll LEARN to call them by the name or terminology they prefer. To me, that's just being polite and reasonable.

However, there clearly are those groups or individuals who (for whatever varied reasons) DO NOT INTEND to make relations between people any better. I say those are the people we detect and marginalize in socially reasonable ways.

 

Go to OED.com- home of Oxford English Dictionary.
click on "Oxford Dictionaries online"
input racist in the search bar
and you come to the definition of the OED provided free online.

Definition of racist
noun
a person who believes that a particular race is superior to another:

having or showing the belief that a particular race is superior to another:

Right from the website you directed me to go to.

Thank you for pointing out that I was correct.

And as I pointed out- I went directly to my library and checked the OED there- the definition of racism:
Belief in or adherence to or advocating all member of each race possess characteristics, abilities, qualities, etc., specific to that race, esp. distinguishing it as inferior to superior to another race or races; prejudice, discrimination, or antagonism based on this.

Racist: a person believing in, advocating or practising racism.

Not some 'cheap inferior online dictionary' like Oxford's own online dictionary- instead the big printed version- which not surprisingly has almost the exact word for word definition.

So once again- I point out that you are badly informed and wrong.

 

Except as I pointed out- this isn't what is in the printed OED version. And nor the version that is available by going directly to the link that you yourself provided.

You are busted again jack.

 

so you tell us: "using these cheap inferior online dictionaries for definitions of important terms leads many astray...."

And then just give us websites who claim that this is what the OED says? Seriously why should we believe these 'cheap inferior online' articles?

LOL.

You are busted jack.

 

Go to OED.com- home of Oxford English Dictionary.
click on "Oxford Dictionaries online"
input racist in the search bar
and you come to the definition of the OED provided free online.

Definition of racist
noun
a person who believes that a particular race is superior to another:

having or showing the belief that a particular race is superior to another:

Right from the website you directed me to go to.

Thank you for pointing out that I was correct.

And as I pointed out- I went directly to my library and checked the OED there- the definition of racism:
Belief in or adherence to or advocating all member of each race possess characteristics, abilities, qualities, etc., specific to that race, esp. distinguishing it as inferior to superior to another race or races; prejudice, discrimination, or antagonism based on this.

Racist: a person believing in, advocating or practising racism.

Not some 'cheap inferior online dictionary' like Oxford's own online dictionary- instead the big printed version- which not surprisingly has almost the exact word for word definition.

So once again- I point out that you are badly informed and wrong.

 

Go to OED.com- home of Oxford English Dictionary.
click on "Oxford Dictionaries online"
input racist in the search bar
and you come to the definition of the OED provided free online.

Definition of racist
noun
a person who believes that a particular race is superior to another:

having or showing the belief that a particular race is superior to another:

Right from the website you directed me to go to.

Thank you for pointing out that I was correct.

And as I pointed out- I went directly to my library and checked the OED there- the definition of racism:
Belief in or adherence to or advocating all member of each race possess characteristics, abilities, qualities, etc., specific to that race, esp. distinguishing it as inferior to superior to another race or races; prejudice, discrimination, or antagonism based on this.

Racist: a person believing in, advocating or practising racism.

Not some 'cheap inferior online dictionary' like Oxford's own online dictionary- instead the big printed version- which not surprisingly has almost the exact word for word definition.

So once again- I point out that you are badly informed and wrong.

 

Go to OED.com- home of Oxford English Dictionary.
click on "Oxford Dictionaries online"
input racist in the search bar
and you come to the definition of the OED provided free online.

Definition of racist
noun
a person who believes that a particular race is superior to another:

having or showing the belief that a particular race is superior to another:

Right from the website you directed me to go to.

Thank you for pointing out that I was correct.

And as I pointed out- I went directly to my library and checked the OED there- the definition of racism:
Belief in or adherence to or advocating all member of each race possess characteristics, abilities, qualities, etc., specific to that race, esp. distinguishing it as inferior to superior to another race or races; prejudice, discrimination, or antagonism based on this.

Racist: a person believing in, advocating or practising racism.

Not some 'cheap inferior online dictionary' like Oxford's own online dictionary- instead the big printed version- which not surprisingly has almost the exact word for word definition.

So once again- I point out that you are badly informed and wrong.

 

200 years since a large portion of slaves were freed and the attitude of a large part of the nation's attitude towards slavery changed. 150 years since it was abolished completely. This doesn't change my point.

Are you ever even going to attempt to support the claim that blacks are still suffering from the effects of slavery?

 

No, the problem isn 't deep and profound. Black people just have a chip on thier shoulders and are paranoid as (*)(*)(*)(*).

A white person looks at you funny, and you immediately imagine racism. It is all a figment of the collective imagination of black people who would suffer an identity crisis if they didn't have the false cultural narrative of an oppressed people.

The civil rights struggle is over. Now black ppl are just being petty whiners and cry babies. You'll never stomp out racism completely so its time to get over it. Unless you are living under Jim Crow you have no reason to complain.

 

You are denying the truth; that is part of the problem. You and many others are NOT willing to be realistic; that is how DEEP the problem is.

You are being unreasonable here; you're stereotyping and it makes no sense.

 

I respectfully disagree. It is the Spanish word for the color black, and became a name for slaves. The Spanish delivered a lot of black slaves all over the world in African slavery's heyday.

 

The key difference in this context is that the OED is what I (and you, via a third party) quoted from while ODO is entirely irrelevant to our discussion. OED exists as both a print and on-line (with minor access restrictions) dictionary. ODO seems to be an entirely separate publication (though from the same publisher) which I guess is on-line only.

Other people quoted the ODO definition which you dismissed, stating that the OED is the only valid source. You then presented someone else quoting from OED on-line giving your preferred definition (I believe this came from a Yahoo Answers page). I checked OED on-line directly, discovered your quote was from an older edition of the OED and gave their current definition (which includes the aspects you disagree with). I'm sure the current print edition of the OED would include that definition.

 

The term racist is not a derogatory word and there are racialist elements in every ethnic group which should be condemned while the N-word is clearly offensive equivalent with the W-word which is used commonly among teenage gangstas and both words should be banned in a civilised society.

 

Which large portion of slaves were freed in 1812? The attitude of the large portion of the nation who owned slaves didn't change after 1812. Why are you trying to salvage what was just an incorrect statement?

It is arguable whether or not blacks are still suffering from the effects of slavery. Clearly for instance someone like Barack Obama or Sydney Poitier are not descended from slaves. However, the legal ramifications of slavery in this country were not terminated until the 1960's, when it became illegal to discriminate based on color. Those legal discriminations had lasting effects, in particular in wealth accumulation. As an example- the town I grew up with didn't allow blacks to live- or buy real estate within the city borders until about 1960. Since the 1960's we have made tremendous strides in reducing discrimination towards blacks.

Now are you ever going to attempt to support the claim that blacks are not now experiencing any racial discrimination?

 

Not sure if the comparison is valid, since racist come in all colors.