Orchestrating War on Iran !!!

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    Complete Media silence about Israel's plans to drag the USA into an unnecessary war on Iran.

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    AIPAC is pushing us to war with Iran for Israel :bonk: :spin:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nch43wy8Zb8&feature=relmfu

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aIUSMLOmtQ8&feature=relmfu


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    Netanyahu inciting against Obama on way to war with Iran

    In the run-up to an Iran attack, Netanyahu crossed every boundary, with the help of Jewish-American mogul Sheldon Adelson, to unseat Obama. And Ehud Barak, the boy from the kibbutz, is standing by his side on this balcony of incitement. …

    http://www.haaretz.com/opinion/neta...bama-on-way-to-war-with-iran.premium-1.459557


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    Israel Delivers “Or Else” Demands to Obama

    … The message was a warning that the Strong Man of the Middle East will go to war against Iran before Election Day, November 6, unless Barack Obama meets two Israeli demands. The warning was delivered by the New York Times in a news analysis, “Israeli Leaders Could Be Dissuaded From Striking Iran”, by the Times’ Jerusalem correspondent, Jodi Rudoren. …

    http://www.veteransnewsnow.com/2012/08/18/israel-delivers-or-else-demands-to-obama/

    http://www.nytimes.com/2012/08/16/w...aders-dissuaded-strike-iran-us-sanctions.html


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    President Obama
    The White House. Washington, DC.
    Fax 202-456-2461

    Subject: Please - No War on Iran!

    Dear President Obama. 8/21/2012.

    AIPAC and the Israel Lobby has swindled us into an unnecessary war on Iraq. - It now promotes another un-necessary attack on Iran. America will probably be dragged into this conflict by default. - The result may become a major world conflict.

    Senators Joseph Lieberman, Lindsey Graham, and Robert Casey introduced a resolution that would move America further down the path toward war with Iran.

    Iran is not a threat to any state in the Middle-East. - Rather, Israel is the primary conflict instigator!

    Three years ago, General Clark stated that the Pentagon planned attacks on 7 counties in that region. Iran was named as one of those countries. - The Israel Lobby is deeply ensconced in Pentagon strategy planning.

    America can not afford such a major conflict in light of its current fiscal problems.
    The whole world considers our Middle-East policy as foolish and lacking moral rectitude.

    … Nothing could be more disastrous for America and nothing could be less necessary than war with Iran. ... http://www.huffingtonpost.com/david-bromwich/obama-iran-war_b_1250668.html

    Please keep America out of this conflict,

    Thanks, A.v.S

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    Increased Israel chatter on Iran is about sending a message to Washington

    … a call for an unequivocal commitment from the Obama administration to take the lead in such an attack or to come to Israel’s aid if it goes first. …

    … a series of public statements by Israel’s ambassador to Washington, Michael Oren, suggesting that an Israeli strike would reap sufficient rewards to justify it ...

    Still, Obama administration officials are not yet publicly buying the rhetoric. …

    Netanyahu, who has had tense relations with Obama, is seen as close to the Republicans and has a longstanding friendship with Romney. ...

    http://www.jta.org/news/article/201...iran-is-about-sending-a-message-to-washington

    http://www.jta.org/news/article/2012/08/19/3104461/dichter-at-handover-iran-an-existential-threat


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    Barack Obama must make a public case before promising to strike Iran.

    For years now, Israelis have been noisily debating military action against Iran. And their conclusion, according to polls, is that America should do it. That’s somewhat ironic given that self-reliance—never again putting Jewish destiny in non-Jewish hands—is core to the Zionist ideal. But it’s also quite rational: an American strike would likely set back Tehran’s nuclear progress far more than an Israeli one would. And an American strike would not leave Israel as isolated in the world. ….

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/journali...lic-case-before-promising-to-strike-Iran.html


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    Obama's Drift Toward War With Iran

    … The cooked-up crisis, over Iran's supposed option of "breaking out" to manufacture a weapon, goes on a false premise. As Gary Sick has explained, such an action would require Iran to expel the IAEA inspectors who are free to order a surprise look at any site. …

    it surely serves the interest of Netanyahu to stoke unreal fears, provided this can be done indirectly, through "legitimate" channels like the New York Times, as well as more extravagant channels like the casino billionaire Sheldon Adelson. In a recent address (summarized by Michael Isikoff in an excellent piece of reporting), Adelson said that "unfortunately" he had worn an American uniform rather than an Israeli one when he served in the armed forces. That is the mode of thinking on that side. ….

    The right-wing coalition government of Netanyahu "had told the Obama administration that they could accept diplomacy as long as Washington expected it would fail." …

    in 2011, Admiral Mike Mullen, said more than once that an Israeli strike against Iran "would be a big, big, big problem for all of us." …

    Nothing could be more disastrous for America and nothing could be less necessary than war with Iran.

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/david-bromwich/obama-iran-war_b_1250668.html


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    AIPAC is pushing us to war with Iran for Israel http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cfcWlHgoNBo


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    AIPAC http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Israel_Public_Affairs_Committee

    AIPAC ~ Israel to Annihilate Iran and Destroy the Middle East http://tiny.cc/7gyejw


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    The Real Reason Why War Is Coming To Iran Part 2

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pVe1OqoVlBc&feature=related


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    The Israel Project http://www.theisraelproject.org/site/c.ewJXKcOUJlIaG/b.7711637/k.BEA8/Home.htm


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    Defying calls from U.S., Israel, UN chief plans visit to Tehran

    UN Secretary-General Ban Ki-moon plans to attend a summit meeting of leaders of non-aligned developing nations in Tehran next week, defying calls from the United States and Israel to boycott the event ….

    Earlier this month, Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu urged Ban to cancel his plans to participate in the Tehran non-aligned summit …

    http://www.haaretz.com/news/middle-...srael-un-chief-plans-visit-to-tehran-1.460076


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    So when is Obama gonna flatten Iran?
     
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    I think China and Russia want to stand on the sidelines and watch the show if war breaks out between isreal and iran. And they expect the U.S. and it's allies to do the same.

    Think of it as tag team wrestling. Once the buddy jumps in the ring with a folded chair the other steps in with a folded stepping ladder and all hell breaks loose and we got a rumble royale on our hands.
     
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    The media is only quiet because Obama is their guy! Yet just for exercise, tell me just how much power can Russia or China project into the ME? Are they first gonna take over the Air-Space from the US and Isreal or will they attack us with superior Naval Power? Oh wait, they gonna fly in 100,000 troops in mere days to attack us??? Or will they just send in Nuclear Weapons an hell with it? I just don't understand the idea that Russia or China have the power to project in the ME, or anyplace outside of thier own borders.
     
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    The Russian and Chinese economies combined trump the U.S.

    I think they have more than enough funding to pump quality, military equipment into the ME. And if worse comes to worse the two can easily deploy their navys to defend Iranian coasts and help supply air power over the region. I wouldn't underestimate the two. That could serve as a deadly mistake.
     
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    But remember: If the Iranian war follows TNA-style booking, then it will involve aliens, time-travelling gypsies, sentient asteroids, and walking computer viruses the size of SUV's roaming the desert under the glare of floating searchlights manned by cavemen.
     
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    If Israel wants war let them pay for it and fight it them selves. If we don't have money for our own country I'm tired of supporting other countries. That's why I liked Ron Paul I don't think he would lead us into these unnecessary wars.
     
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    This is Israel's issue. They have been threatening Iran since 2000.

    Iran NEEDS nuclear power.. they have since the 1970s and in those days the US was training their techs while the Germans were building the facilities.

    I'm not too crazy about the Iranian government because I am real partial to the GCC.. and I don't like Iranian ambitions on the Arabian peninsula..

    But this goes directly back to Israel. They practice intimidation with their nukes.. and they sure as hell have queered every opportunity for peace..

    Everything about this is screwed up... my position is to tell the Likkud to just have at it.. We'll sit this one out and hold their coats.
     
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    Iranian's tryin to get in yer wallet?...
    :?
    New cyber attacks on U.S. banks; Iran suspected
    October 18th, 2012 - Cyber attacks on U.S. banks continued this week from suspected hackers believed to be supported by the Iranian government, according to U.S. officials.
    See also:

    U.S. offers $12 million for Iran-based al Qaeda operatives
    October 18th, 2012 : The United States is offering $12 million for two men described as al Qaeda financiers who are based in Iran and responsible for the movement of money and fighters to support the terror groups operations in the region.
     
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    [video=youtube;zne0MyooLW8]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zne0MyooLW8&feature=related[/video]
     
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    Joe Biden was all over this today.
     
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    Swedish government body funding book on Israeli ‘apartheid’. October 12, 2012


    (JTA) -- The Swedish Arts Council is sponsoring and distributing a new book which presents Israel as a racist entity comparable to apartheid South Africa.
    The council, a government body, has allocated $8,985 toward publishing and distributing "The bride is beautiful but she is married to another man – Zionism -- an ideology at the end of the road?”, the council told JTA this week. The decision was made last month.
    The book by Ingmar Karlsson, a retired senior Swedish diplomat, states: “The fundamental difference between South African and Zionist colonialism is the former wanted land and people while the latter only wanted land.”


    http://www.jta.org/news/article/201...rnment-body-funding-book-on-israeli-apartheid


    http://users.ox.ac.uk/~ssfc0005/The Iron Wall.html


    http://palitsmine.wordpress.com/201...is-beautiful-but-shes-married-to-another-man/




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    Netanyahu to Obama - "You are the Great Satan and we are the little Satan"


    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l3Q2ELOSM8s&feature=related




    Benjamin Netanyahu Schools Obama


    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jAlJ6erL-HY&feature=related




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    U.S. & Israeli Officials: Iran is NOT Building Nuclear Weapons.


    The White House, the Pentagon, U.S. intelligence, and reportedly even Israeli intelligence and leaders of the Israeli military, as well as the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA) all have reached the same conclusions about Iran's nuclear program:


    1) Iran does not have a nuclear weapon - it only has a civilian nuclear program at this point
    2) Iran is not building a nuclear weapon
    3) Iran has not made the decision of whether or not to build a nuclear weapon in the future


    "Reuters put it another way: "The United States, European allies and even Israel generally agree on three things about Iran's nuclear program: Tehran does not have a bomb, has not decided to build one, and is probably years away from having a deliverable nuclear warhead." ….


    http://fcnl.org/issues/iran/us_israeli_intelligence_officials_iran_is_not_pursuing_nuclear_weapons/




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    Attack on Iran - Is War Imminent? - The History of Netanyahu's Propaganda


    http://xrepublic.tv/node/598


    Netanyahu is clinically paranoid ….. bordering on insanity! … How can Israelis elect such a man?




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    How misinformation obscures the Israel lobby’s influence on U.S. foreign policy.


    http://thepassionateattachment.com/...srael-lobbys-influence-on-u-s-foreign-policy/




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    The Truth About Israel by a Jew – Miko Peled


    http://sabbah.biz/mt/archives/2012/10/14/truth-about-israel-by-jew-miko-peled/




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    An Industry of Fear - The Arab you fear


    …. in Israel there exists an entire industry of fear – in politics, in the financial sector and in the media. The prime minister flew all the way to New York with and a red magic marker to make people fear Iran. In order for military technology companies such as Rafael and Israel Aerospace Industries to be profitable, it is crucial that you fear war, and to justify the Prawer Plan for the expropriation of Bedouin lands, it is crucial that you fear Bedouins. ...


    http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4293372,00.html




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    US Jews cancel talks with Protestants over Israel


    … Arguing that US military aid to Israel was "sustaining the conflict and undermining the long-term security interests of both Israelis and Palestinians," church leaders said Congress should investigate whether Israel has violated the human rights standards set by the Foreign Assistance Act and the Arms Export Control Act. ...


    http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4294213,00.html




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    Ashrawi calls on diplomats to protect olive harvest


    … dispatch observer teams to Palestinian olive groves in order to discourage attacks by settlers …


    http://www.jpost.com/NationalNews/Article.aspx?id=287829




    Settler violence is terrorism. Even America’s State Department says so. Hypocrisy is saying one thing and doing another.


    http://theintelhub.com/2012/10/16/israel-encourages-settler-violence/






    Last February, a Jerusalem Fund/Palestine Center (PC) report titled “When Settlers Attack” discussed data collected from 2004 to 2011. It includes over 3,700 separate incidents. It explains when, how, and why they occur.
    PC discovered a disturbing increase in violence. Palestinian civilians are targeted. Northern rural West Bank villages are most affected. ….


    http://theintelhub.com/2012/08/30/settler-attacks-on-palestinians/




    “When Settlers attack”: http://www.thejerusalemfund.org/ht/a/GetDocumentAction/i/32678


    http://sabbah.biz/mt/archives/2012/10/16/malignancy-jewish-settlers/




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    As long as enough people can be frightened, then all people can be ruled. That is how it works in a democratic system and mass fear becomes the ticket to destroy rights across the board. - James Bovard




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    Soon, containment is failing, and those Sunni roots should be no problem:

    "Obama advanced a racist argument for attacks on Iran and Pakistan. Making a comparison between the 'Islamic world' and the Soviet Union, he argued that the religious outlook of Iranians and Pakistanis made them less prone to compromise and reason and more warlike.

    He said: 'With the Soviet Union, you did get the sense that they were operating on a model that we could comprehend in terms of, they don’t want to be blown up, we don’t want to be blown up, so you do game theory and calculate ways to contain. I think there are certain elements within the Islamic world right now that don’t make those same calculations.'” http://www.wsws.org/articles/2004/oct2004/obam-o01.shtml
     
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    Sanctions are working .. Even China is cutting their oil purchases and with drawing from projects.
     
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    It is funny how people miss the irony that Pakistan has the bomb and has not used it like Obama's MAD statements seem to indicate they must. No war with Iran! No war with Iran! No war with Iran! Dump a load of cow manure on them from space, and say sorry, we were trying to fertilize the tomatoes, just so they know we can do it.
     
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    I doubt Iran would every bomb Israe or anyone else..but they sure meddle in northern Yemen.
     
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    Iran is Shia.
     
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    Yeah, and Obama's roots are not. Totally against stupid wars with Iraq, who got us two fatwas of war, but thinks Iranians can't be afraid of MAD?
     
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    They are outnumbered. And why make Palestine glow in the dark?
     
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    Obama's father was an atheist.
     
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    The promised Iran invasion is why Romney is quite comfortable promising $1.90/gallon gas.

    When we are "forced" to go to war with Iran, and oil skyrockets to $300/barrel and the teh USA has long gas lines waiting to pay $8 per gallon for ags if they can get it, it of COURSE will not be Romney's fault he couldn't deliver that promise in his FIRST term.

    But hey, just elect him to a second term and gas will be a $1 per gallon GUARANTEED! HE PROMISES!
     
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    This chart is from 2010..China still gets most of its oil from Angola.. Imports from Iran are down by half since this spring.
     
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    So says the atheist website, after it says he was a Muslim. Anyway, other guy is right, better buy a bike if we go to war with Iran.
     

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