Is Israel America's Wife?

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  1. upside-down cake

    upside-down cake Well-Known Member

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    You know those people that don't like it when you talk about their wife, even when it's their friends trying to offer some rather blunt, but helpful advice about her, and they tend to start fights when "defending her honor"? I found that to be a lot like the relationship between Israel and the US.

    Israel seems to be the girl we like, but no one really knows why. They are looking at her and asking...what is the connection here beyond the obvious "she's a girl" thing. I mean, there are way better girls out there with a hell of a lot more to offer besides a cart full of troubles, but the US scoops her up and offers to carry her burdens.

    And then it's like a blaspheme or sin to ever talk bad about Israel as if they have the right to go unquestioned in anything. It's a really odd affair. But I don't say anything because her husband likes to jump all over people who do.
     
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  2. PropagandaMachine

    PropagandaMachine New Member

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    Yes take my credit card and (*)(*)(*)(*) my credit score dear. Also the Holocaust.
     
  3. Marlowe

    Marlowe New Member

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    I would'nt go as far as comparing it with a marital husband + wife relationship, especially as the Jews are screwing America for all its worth and american taxpayers are not getting anything in return.


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  4. Mr_Truth

    Mr_Truth Well-Known Member

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    Israel is more like Washington, DC's puppet string master.
     
  5. Maximatic

    Maximatic Well-Known Member

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    I'm not really convinced that the US actually helps Israel that much.
     
  6. PropagandaMachine

    PropagandaMachine New Member

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    The amount of aid combined that we give to the rest of the world does not come close to the aid we give Israel.
     
  7. Skeptical Heretic

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    Yeah but we are on a break and seeing other people right now hopefully this will make our relationship stronger. Maybe if she picked up the bill once and a while we wouldn't have this tense relationship going on.

    I'm surprised I managed to keep that going.
     
  8. Maximatic

    Maximatic Well-Known Member

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    It doesn't look like that's true.

    The US government gave 52 billion of our dollars to other countries last year. 100 million of that went to Israel. Their gdp is 235 billion. We gave them 0.004% if their gdp.
    I don't feel like looking up the stats on Israels military compared to the sum of those of their neighbors. You guys can do that.
    I think you'll find that when their Prime Minister says "we don't need you", we can take his word for it.
     
  9. PropagandaMachine

    PropagandaMachine New Member

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    You're right I was looking at per person. Although now with Afganistan...

    Netanyahu needs to be controlled, that's what. Which basically means the US needs to (*)(*)(*)(*) off.
     
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    they get plenty in return though

    GRIEF

    makes you wonder when the day will be that they wake up
     
  11. upside-down cake

    upside-down cake Well-Known Member

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    I try to make the careful distinction between criticizing "Israel" and criticizing "Jews". I criticize the actions or apparent actions of the government, not Jewish people. Just the same as I would hope others would make a distinction between my thoughts or actions and the actions of the United States government in general.

    I think there is a rather strange, disproportionate amount of help here, and not just overt militaristic support, but economic and political. You know that shield that Captain America carries around. Well Israel seems to carry the US around like its shield, not to mention leaning on it and other nations for sympathy-support.

    I may be wrong, but it seems like the US is trying to build Israel into another super-power or assist Israel with that intention. It may not be overt help, but it is there. Why else does a country the size of Israel have nukes for- regardless of its circumstances? Nukes are not defensive weapons, no matter what someone says.
     
  12. Uri

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    Did the US had anything to do with Israel having Nukes?
     
  13. Marlowe

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    Yes. IDEALLY - we'd all like to do that. but the distinquishing line between JEW and Israeli GOv., is very thin .
    Some of us also find it foolish to ignore the fact that many of America's wealthiest Jews - those who've made their fortunes in America (same as elswhere from Gentiles) siphon off/donate/transfer much of their gains in support of Israeli government and greasing UD Adminstrations palms in support of Israel.

    american public - ( US electorate) have no voice regarding the amount of direct Aid /Loans /Loan Gurantees /never ending the cycle of Loans to repay previous unpaid loans, etc., ,


    i.e. see Sheldon Adelson - King maker ( ehr - puppet master to Mormon Mitt) There are hundreds if not many thousands Jews whose first loyality appears to be to the state of Israel.


    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/...-2-billion-tax-cut-mitt-romney_n_1873683.html


    Also a generous supporter of NetyYahoo .


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  14. Marlowe

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    Perhaps not officially - in public, but who knows what happenened behind the screens, the Zionists favourite MO.
     
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    samiam5211 New Member Past Donor

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    Israel is a welfare state paid for by the US taxpayer.
     
  16. Uri

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    Not officially, and not not officially.
    The Dimona reactor was purchased from france.
    These were the times before 67 - Israel didnt have any special relations with the US.
     
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    True that was the start , a reactor designed suitable as a power station , but ...... but...... how much and what was revealed about further development -uranium enrichment leading to WMD's.


    The truth is that we dont really know how much vital information was passed to Israel from america by Jews (Sayanim) working within America's Nuclear weapons industry.

    Only a fool would believe Jonathan Pollard to have been the only betrayed America by passing classified information to Israel.

    Take it whichever you want to , the fact remains that Jews , in general , have a rather poor record /reputation , for national loyality to any state other than Israel.



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  18. Misguided

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    Israel is not America wife, instead it is America's hussy. Wives tend to build relationships on trust and mutual respect (how else will you be able to raise a family). Israel does neither of this, Just look how Netanyahoo tried to influence the US elections.
     
  19. Maximatic

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    Sounds like a wife to me.
     
  20. Uri

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    You say X
    I present the fact that X is wrong.
    You say X doesn't matter, since it's really Y.

    Oh well.
     
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    Obviously you have never been married...
     
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    Why bother with this disgusting and sexist thread?
     
  23. Marlowe

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    BS - I find that "In 1952 the Israel Atomic Energy Commission was established, and in 1955 the USA agreed to supply a 5 MWt pool-type reactor for Nahal Soreq, south of Tel Aviv. This IRR-1 required high-enriched uranium supplied from the USA. It started up in 1960 and from the outset was (supposedly ) required to be under IAEA safeguards [
    (so it is claimed )

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    Israel is one of three significant countries which have never been part of the NPT. Unlike India and Pakistan, Israel has no civil nuclear power program

    In 1968 the US Central Intelligence Agency concluded that Israel had started producing nuclear weapons from separated plutonium. In 1974 it appeared to have 20 nuclear bombs, and by the late 1990s the estimate had grown to 75-130 nuclear warheads. No tests have been undertaken in Israel, but it is widely believed that Israel collaborated with South Africa in a 1979 test off the east coast there.

    Go do your own research and learn . (wink)


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    SO, suggesting that the US is little more than a prostitute to Zionists is considered "flaming"?

    It seems to me that that is simply an observation; a political opinion at the worst.

    WASPS have been taking it on the chin for over 50 years. Now they're practically bending over and begging for more.

    So who's really getting flamed here? Or don't you watch TV?
     
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    SO, suggesting that the US is little more than a prostitute to Zionists is considered "flaming"?

    It seems to me that that is simply an observation; a political opinion at the worst.

    WASPS have been taking it on the chin for over 50 years. Now they're practically bending over and begging for more.

    So who's really getting flamed here? Or don't you watch TV?
     

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