Petraeus Throws Obama Under the Bus

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  1. happy fun dude

    happy fun dude New Member

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    Which ones?

    I think this is a big issue, and I'm not the right.... Anyone who believes in presidential accountability and human life ought to think this is a big issue.

    Really? You think they await ALL facts before they come up with a story?!? The media runs with a story at the first shred of the slightest indication of something.... I recall that same media AUTOMATICALLY showing news stories about violent massacres in Syria at the hands of evil Assad mere hours after they occurred and nobody had any clue what happened there.. Then days later when the real boots on the ground investigate and find it was the Obama supported "rebels" that did it.. No mention of that. No facts they ran with it, the headlines like "Assad massacres dozens in Syria" with the little "according to Hillary Clinton" disclaimer buried somewhere down on paragraph three.

    If you think the media awaits completion of an entire investigation before they class it as news, then maybe you should read the article about that bridge that's for sale.

    You are absolutely right. We don't know all the facts. We may never will.

    But it's the same as the Bush torture scandal.

    We've got ENOUGH facts.
     
  2. happy fun dude

    happy fun dude New Member

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    There are probably some people doing the same thing that Obama and his campaign crew are doing... Having a good think tank brainstorm... See if they can come up with an excuse for him.
     
  3. The12thMan

    The12thMan Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Seems like the CIA would not be in charge of sending military assistance anyway. Hmmm. Who would that be? Who would need to give the order to send military assistance into another country?
     
  4. Mac-7

    Mac-7 Banned

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    Obama voters do not care about national security.

    They elected Obama to give them free stuff from the government.

    As long as he does that they will vote for him no matter how incompetent he is.
     
  5. The Wyrd of Gawd

    The Wyrd of Gawd Well-Known Member

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    That's progress. At least you have him from Chicago.
     
  6. The Wyrd of Gawd

    The Wyrd of Gawd Well-Known Member

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    Well if he hands out free stuff he's not incompetent since that's why you say that's the reason he was elected.
     
  7. Mac-7

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    He is not incompetent to the Marxists who are getting the free stuff.

    But the rest of us are tired of giving.
     
  8. happy fun dude

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    What free stuff?
     
  9. Lowden Clear

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    This is utter crap. Granted, we don't know everything that happened and yes, we'll find out more as we go, and the only place to get any detail on it is Fox News. Simply put, they are not in the tank for Obama. It has been proven time and again that the MSM is. That list is long.

    Now, how about some common sense here? There were obvious problems with granting more security prior to 9/11. Easy enough to see. 9/11 is the day of choice to launch any attack, or am I missing something here? It is a fact they moved forces and staged in position to aide our people during the attack. It is a fact the order never came to actually put those forces into play to rescue our people. From all of that what would a normal person deduce?

    Furthermore, since we were staging forces due to intel from the ground it is once again obvious there was enough information of what the attack consisted of. So, why would a President direct others to lie about the reason for the attack if not for political reasons? Use you common sense instead of talking points. At a minimum there is reason for great suspicion. At first I wasn't sure how high up this went until more information came out. In my mind it rose to the top. To pull that trigger required the finger of the President. He failed to do so.

    Trust me, I'd rather the Presidential race did not have this element to it. I'd much rather those men were alive. But to try to compare campaign lies as if it is an even playing field and the four deaths are simply collateral damage of an argument is wrong. This could very well be the biggest lie ever told. I think it is. I think history will show it. We have an egomaniac in the oval office. He comes first.
     
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    they were already there. one of them had the motar crew in their sights when told to stand down.
     
  11. DonGlock26

    DonGlock26 New Member Past Donor

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    This from the party of "Big Bird" campaign stratergy? LOL!!
     
  12. V8rider

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    I'd buy a ticket for that! Hell, I'd pay extra to drive the thing.
     
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    Anything that even has a remote chance of exposing the empowered Left to negative criticism that might cost them votes must be either buried in obscurity or given a friendly spin by his media propaganda machine. The puppet must always appear on stage with a friendly smile and clothed in pseudo-credibility - no matter how many die or how much damage he and his comrades exact on the nation.

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    One of us is misunderstanding the situation. They had the target "painted" with a laser for the gunship to come in and blow up. The gunship did not come. The people who were there did not have the firepower to hold off the attack longer. They lasted 7 hours.
     
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    The Obama admin forbid an airstrike according to CIA sources.
     
  16. Eighty Deuce

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    Further, to anyone with even half a wit's knowledge of how it works, only the WH would make that call. Its that Chain of Command thing, especially with regard to putting ordinance into another country. Obama gave the order. Only Obama could do so.
     
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    That's why he can't answer the reporter's question. He likely guilty himself.
     
  18. Ivan88

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    While you're whining about the US embassy in Libya thing, try to remember the Lavon affair and similar stunts carried out to influence the deluded USers into giving more money to their pet lion.
    View attachment 15989 from video series, Mokhtarnameh
     
  19. happy fun dude

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    You do know this is the "current" events section, right?
     
  20. happy fun dude

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    Personally, I never thought so. Firstly, as far as I know, this is the first time an anniversary strike had ever occurred. Such an anniversary strike was unprecedented. You had the ten year one pass without incident even.

    You would think, the terrorist would use the most opportune occasion, not symbolic one. At least likelier anyway. When a certain detail is going to be there, (or when the ambassador would be there which could be a coincidence really as that wound up happening) or when some sort of calendar opportunity is most auspicious. Or even an expected double bluff.. Assume they wouldn't attack on the anniversary because that's when the infidels would be expecting it. Keep them guessing, throw them for a loop, not establish a pattern of predictability etc. Make the infidels fear for their lives in our lands on different days of the year.. etc.

    I mean yeah that did wind up happening I know, but I mean logically I don't think you should have expected that and to think we should have expected it for the sake of it's the 9/11 anniversary is definatly too much on the MMQBing.

    This is of course, notwithstanding OTHER indications, previous requests for security, warnings, preparations etc... I mean JUST the virtue of the anniversary date here.

    Of course we have a trend now, so next 9/11 I would tighten up all US foreign interests in the ME.
     
  21. Iron River

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    Valery Garret made the decision on letting our people die in Libya. She was the only one in the White House that was watching the real time video of the attack and dismissed the calls for help from people on the ground.

    I get a lot of free stuff from the government but when the rich are all killed the gravy train will run off of the tracks. We have to be more careful.

    Case in point: A man was driving down a back road in Arkansas when he saw a three legged pig painting a an old shed. The man stopped and a young one toothed hillbilly man came over to the man's car. The man said that he was amazed by what he was seeing so the hillbilly told the man that the pig seemed to like working around the farm. The man got out of his car as the hillbilly told him that the pig could talk too but he wouldn't do it in front of strangers. Then the man asked why the pig had a back leg missing so the hillbilly said "Well, if we ate his other ham he couldn't work at all."

    Even hillbillies are smarter than liberals.
     
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    This is Bush's fault.
     
  23. Eighty Deuce

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    You are ignoring two huge factors. This is the first 9-11 since the consolidations of the Arab Springs. That makes it a much more opportune political weapon for the new rabble rousers. Secondly, and of huge significance, is that it is the first 9-11 after the killing of UBL. The crowds have been chanting "Obama. Obama. We are all Usama".

    You also fail to grasp the political propaganda value to such as Al Qeada to successfully attack us on any 9-11.
     
  24. happy fun dude

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    Aye good point.
     
  25. happy fun dude

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    So Obama and these others are lying to cover for her?
     

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