Union protests at Los Angeles airport, threatening to disrupt holiday travel

There are now 30+ states with Republican Governors and Republican controlled State Legislatures. They could help the entire country by outlawing Union Dues Checkoff in their respective states. This way the Union Thugs would have to collect the dues money directly from the Union members instead of having it taken from their paychecks. You know how people are, they will have many excuses why they can't pay their dues till next payday. It's a lose/lose for the Union goons. If they let 'em get away without paying that will multiply in short order. If they lean on 'em, they'll get the money but thousands of words talking down the usefulness of the Union in the first place. That one simple thing will bury the unions over time.

 

How about I alone vote on how much you are worth, rather that you being able to shop yourself in the competititve marketplace ?

You have a vote on what you pay for all that you noted already.

 

Hey stooge. We do not dictate what a worker will make. What we do believe in is that a company can decide it will pay for any given job. If you are that potential worker, and don't like the wages offered, then go somewhere else and see if someone will pay you more.

If they won't, then maybe you have too high of an opinion of your value. What a shock !!

 

Do you really have no clue how real life works? I can't refuse to buy gas for my car or heat my house. Therefore, I have no control over the cost of these items. However I can refuse to buy luxury items, so I do have some control over their prices. Do you know the song "Sixteen Tons"? That is the reason why workers need some protection.

BTW, how many names can you call me? I thought that was forbidden on here, but I guess not. Don't worry, even if I knew how to report you I wouldn't.

Chris

 

What a moronic answer. What a foolishly ******* response. You can choose where to buy gas, what car to drive, and how far to have to commute. You can choose the temperature of your house, the means of heat, and the climate to live in. For you to say "I have no control" is to be a surrender monkey.

The issue is not "control over cost". Rather, it is control over what you choose to spend.

You are clueless. A chihuahua in the tall weeds, being pissed on by the big dogs. A legend in your puny mind. A liberal.

 

I take back what I said about you being the guy in the basement playing world of warcraft. I now picture you saying "It puts the lotion on it's skin or else it gets the hose again".

So how can I pay less for gas? You are not the most informed, are you?

Chris

 

can you not read? he is clearly talking simply about consumption and the fact tha you sir have a lot of control over what you consume whether it be gas, air conditioning, etc. etc. . simply keeping up to date with your cars maintenance helps with consuming less gas. and you know what consuming less gas means?????? yep thats right, paying less for gas...DING DING DING WE HASSSS A WINNAAAHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!

the little things you do can actually save you a lot of money, it requires a tad bit of sacrifice but the extra money in your pocket is worth it. being an auto mechanic if you would like i am glad to offer help on stuff you can do simply yourself so you can save money from having to take it to the sharks that overcharge. shoot me a pm, you will be surprised at the little things i can tell you to help with gas mileage on your vehicle and they are simple (*)(*)(*)(*) you probably dont even think of and what dealers and mechanics wont tell you.

 

Clearly, you have no clue how real life work. That is why people with your political views want big government to hold your hand every step of the way from cradle to grave, tell you how to live your life and how you should think, so that way in case you should happen to fall down once and scrap your knee, instead of learning not to fall down again, you have mamma government wipe away your tears and you never learn your lesson.

Oh yes you can. Ever hear of an electic car? I would have though someone with your political views, which equate to your arrogance and knowing everything would realize electric cars actually do exist. Google it, they really do exist.

Go buy a warm jacket or hoodie then. Blame people like you for the cost of warming your house and electricity. It is your side that hates on nuclear power plants, never mind that even in France, over 70% of their energy comes from nuclear power plants. Your side hates on coal, yet your side invests in failed companies like Solyndra and a host of other failures. It is your side that has restrictions on fire places in houses because of concern over what it might do to the environment. So, blame the radical communist environmentalists for your plights of warming your house or filling your car up. Speaking of filling up your care, talk about a double standard...I am sure you just live Al Gore and his private jets.

Yes you do, I just gave you some very simple answers to them.

Since you are bringing music into this debate, I have a song for you, "Loser" by Beck.

People with your train of thought are why we need to educate people about Marxism - so they can protect themselves from the likes of you.

Oh, I can think of many, and knowing 82, he can think of 10 times as many as me, but someone like you is just not worth getting banned over.

Great job, act like your not offended and won't report it, yet highlight your being butthurt in a reply so hopefully a moderator will see it and take action. Typical underhanded Marxist.

How ironic you bring up the double standard. Both sides have them, yet you act as if the right is the only side that has them. You wanna talk double standards, how about we talk about racial issues. It is ok to completely destroy the charactor or image of anyone who is Republican and black, latino, or female, however, if a person is black, latino or female and Democrat, and the right makes the same attacks the left does, then that automatically makes the right racist. Nevermind it is the left and Democrats that founded the KKK. Don't be throwing stones when you live in a paper thin glass house.

Welcome to America, now get out and go move to Cuba or some other communist dictatorship where you will be much happier. This country was not founded upon your Marxist points of view, don't like it, get out. Your sides politics have failed for over 6,000 years, they will not work again in the next 6000 years either. But go ahead, keep thinking you are so enlightened and intelligent, a pat on the back is only 24" away from a kick in the butt.

 

Really??? Your post makes no sense. Do you have any idea what I drive? Since you are making assumptions please tell me how I can pay less for gas.... I will save you the time, I have to pay whatever the price on the pump says. You guys don't get it, there are certain things that are required to live. Those are the things that we have no control over the price.

Chris

 

You are proving my point. If I buy an electric car then I still am required to buy electricity for that car. If I choose to wear dozens of layers of clothes instead of paying for heat(which you must not own a house, because I dare you turn your heat off in the winter in the north), then I still need to buy certain clothes.

I'm pretty sure that Beck doesn't want you using him in this way.

So do you think workers should be 100% at the mercy of their employers? Do you honestly think that unions have not served a purpose in the country?

I make my money with coal, but I am all for nuclear power. I want to expand our nuclear power. I've sat in on some meetings regarding nuclear power in MO. Ameron UE has applied for the permits to build a new nuclear facilty and the other providers in the area (AECI, etc) are all aboard.

I have never brought up race, you did.

I recommend you move.

 

lol oh lord i think you really need to slow down and grasp the obvious concept thats being thrown your way. this is about CONSUMPTION lol, you know how much you use or dont use??? see its very simple...........

certain maintenance to your vehicle=better gas mileage

better gas mileage=the less you have to pay for gas on a weekly basis

OR

managing your heating and air better= slightly cut back on the heat or air conditioning

cutting back on heating and air= smaller bill at the end of the month= more money in your pocket


small sacrifices and know how= good for your wallet


ok you got that????? im really hoping so.


secondly, i drive a SUV and a BMW sports car and i have optimized gas mileage in them and save myself money. so dont tell me you cant save money with what you drive. hello im a mechanic, fabricator and i build (*)(*)(*)(*)ing race cars. so yeah i know a little bit about optimizing gas mileage.

so what is it you drive???? i bet i can seriously help you from having to use the gas pump as often. and what did we learn about not having to use the gas pump as often????


COOOORRREEEECCCTTTTTT!!!!!!!!!!! YOU SAVE MONEY OMG OMG!!!!! .

so please, what ya drivin ???

 

I never thought I could get frustrated discussing things until I started on here. You don't get it(you never will). This is supposed to be a thread about unions. You have no problem defining their value, but you don't want me to define the value of things that are needed for me to live. Maybe someday you will understand. I am not saying that you can't get better gas mileage, but you still have to pay what the pump says. You don't have an option to go elsewhere, get it. Of course if I was hurting for money I would cut back on some things, BTW my company supplies me with a Silvarado 3500 and my wife drives an Odyssey. I'm not hurting to pay these prices, but a lot of people are and it just boggles me that people can be so cold.

Chris

 

lol an electric car wont really add that much at all to your electric bill. but considering electric cars today are (*)(*)(*)(*) anyways, cost too much and you live in the north so its totally unpractical for your situation.

so im guessing you have a 4x4 truck or suv lol.

if you live in the north you already have those clothes, you wouldnt survive winters without those clothes lol. stop messin. and secondly you dont have to turn the heat so far down to where it freezes the house. just adjusting the temperature in which it turns on a lil later than sooner helps out with your consumption. as does managing the lights in your house, only turn on the ones you need to use at that point and time, then when you leave the room turn the (*)(*)(*)(*) off lol. hell use candles for lighting at night time, im sure you have those considering power outages are not uncommon during harsh winter days in the north.

like i said, simple stuff can save you a lot of money. i know, i use these methods.

unions do have a purpose and were a good idea, but the system is now corrupted.

 

I actually agree a lot with your last statement, but I don't think we can do away with them.

 

how am i being cold? im simply stating ways anybody can save at the pump simply by not having to use them that much. its not hard to grasp and all im doing is trying to help from ways which ive learned. i do understand, i have a home, i provide for people in my home and i got to grind just like you do and i dont have a company that provides me with a ride so i gotta pay for my own. using less gas means paying less at the pump, get it??? and great you have a big boy truck and a van, especially good about the van because its a honda and they are much easier to get more out of as far as gas mileage and longevity.

and as far as the value of the unions go, ill respect them more when they dont pull off (*)(*)(*)(*) like they did today at LAX. its the holiday season and they try to ruin it for people who have nothing to do with what union workers are getting paid??? seriously thats just straight up low class and bad form. people paid good money and planned trips well ahead of time, then you want to slap the customer in the face??? for what???

like i said before, unions were a good idea but i feel the the wrong people are guiding it down the very wrong path.

 

The main thing you are missing it that I am not fighting for me to save money. I do just fine and my family(wife and 4 kids) don't lack for anything. I want everyone to have a great life(I will settle for good), and to me that includes some basic things. Just so you know, I actually sit down every month and figure out exactly where my electricty is going, I know what every appliance in our house uses and I know how to conserve.


Chris

 

they need better guidance, i feel the SEIU has lost track of the real purpose of the unions and have become nothing but bullies. they keep going down that path nobody will do away with them because they will just destroy it by themselves.

 

I agree that some unions do "bully", but someone has to fight for the average Joe. Maybe they have to limit the money the management makes, but to dismiss them completely if ignorant. I'm not saying you are doing that, but there are many far right people on here that are doing it.

Chris

 

dont we all want that for everyone??? but sadly in this real world we live in life is not, and will never be, perfect. not everyone can be saved even as much as we want them to be. ok put it this way, me and you obviously both know how to conserve energy and save money if and when we need too, the problem is others dont or they dont really care to learn how. or like i mentioned before, companies wont let them know to keep them ignorant so they keep spending more money.

the only thing that sucks is government pretty much has a monopoly on energy, and if we all truly started conserving energy and saving all this money they would just raise our rates up because as a whole we wont be paying them that much obviously.

today with whats going on people just have to learn how to save more money, its the only way they are gonna help themselves atm. of course im not talking about those affected by Sandy, they have no choice right now but to live by the bare minimums.

and this goes for unions too, you dont conserve jobs buy (*)(*)(*)(*)ing over the consumer lol. go after the big boss, thats all fine and dandy, but you dont leave innocent people in your wake. i wouldnt be so troubled with this "strike" had it not been on a holiday when people pay a good bit of money to get where they are going because prices are sky high right now with everything. just saying the SEIU really (*)(*)(*)(*)ed up today, totally uncalled for. thats like if i got screwed over at my job and i punched my neighbor out of spite lol, its just wrong. take the fight to the man, not someone who had nothing to do with the situation.

 

Can you provide a link to back up your claim?

 

yeah someone does have to fight for the average Joe, i just dont agree with the tactics that are generally used. Teachers just up and leaving the class leaving kids unattended and not learning a god (*)(*)(*)(*) thing and our tax dollars being wasted, blocking the entrance to an airport that has the 3 most traffic in the country a day before a huge holiday causing innocent bystanders to be greatly inconvenienced and just adding to the bull(*)(*)(*)(*) they already have to go through just to get to their (*)(*)(*)(*)ed flight if they made it at all.

sometimes (*)(*)(*)(*) gets violent, and these same innocent people you care about get hurt for no reason other than bully tactics. yes sometimes a protest is needed, im down for it when its called for, BUT i dont like it at all when people suffer because of it. take the Occupy movement for example, they caused a lot of damage that wasnt needed, blocking off entrances to small businesses and the customers they rely on, breaking (*)(*)(*)(*) that didnt need to be broke and harassing people that did nothing to deserve to be harassed. now not all Union folk do that, some do it the right way, but little by little the bad is overtaking the good and the (*)(*)(*)(*) needs to stop. Unions are getting to brave sometimes and the fat cats act too tough at times.

something needs to be done to where these groups meet in the middle before they rip eachother apart and we all lose a lot more than just jobs.

 

Not in this case they're not. Employees of Aviation Safeguards have voted to decertify and no longer want the Union to represent them. That's why the Union members were out in the street ruining LA residents holiday. That doesn't sound like fighting for the average Joe does it?