Obama voters banned from Arizona gun shop

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  1. stig42

    stig42 New Member

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    how the hell would he know who voted for who?
     
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    thintheherd New Member

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    And even more recent:
    [video=youtube;x-6daayjlAw]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x-6daayjlAw[/video]

    Saying that it is unlikely worked well for the wildly unpopular Obamacare didn't it?

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    thintheherd New Member

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    My username of course

    :twisted::twisted::twisted:

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  4. churchmouse

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    Would you want to associate with a racist? a KKK member? You have no criteria when coming to pick out friends?

    There is such a big difference between the Partys on worldviews, especially on moral issues. I don't want to hang around people whose morals I believe are not right.
     
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    Casper Banned at Members Request Past Donor

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    Being that your are a Repub and that most of the racist groups such as todays KKK and the Stormfronters here back the Repubs you are very confused as to who you are associating with. Might want to open your eyes and take a good look around.
     
  6. mikezila

    mikezila New Member

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    20%, and not that likely to buy a gun to begin with. kinda like banning the Amish from your bar.
     
  7. Shiva_TD

    Shiva_TD Progressive Libertarian Past Donor

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    I'm sorry but I'm not one to let those that would violate the fundamental Rights of others to go unchallenged. Were it not for the fact that I live so far away I'd be the one walking in the door wearing the "Obama" tee shirt and I didn't even vote for him. If he told me to leave I'd end up owning his store and it would serve him right.

    People like this idiot may have a Right to live in America by birth but they certainly don't deserve it because they oppose the very ideals upon which America was founded. He's no better that the worst racist in the KKK and I wouldn't be surprised to find out that he might be one.
     
  8. BestViewedWithCable

    BestViewedWithCable Well-Known Member

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    hes a gun dealer, he sells guns.

    Its in specific interest of the enterprise.

    Obama has repeatedly threatened his business with BS attempts to destroy the second amendment.

    Like this one...

    [video=youtube;Tt2yGzHfy7s]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tt2yGzHfy7s[/video]
     
  9. mikezila

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    good luck with that. his business isn't a public accommodation. he may refuse you service for any reason he deems fit.
     
  10. Alwayssa

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    That would not be a reason for the lawsuit, it would be defamation of character if service was refused based solely on political ideology..
     
  11. Shiva_TD

    Shiva_TD Progressive Libertarian Past Donor

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    The video didn't even have anything to do with gun control or the 2nd Amendment and President Obama has repeatedly stated that people have a right to keep and bear arms and that the primary focus of government should be to address the causes of violence (Romney agreed) in America.

    I have not seen a single "assault" on the 2nd Amendment by President Obama and, as a gun owner, I have certainly been paying attention to this issue.
     
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    Sure. Liberty, and individual and private property rights should permit a business owner to choose their clientele....the owner would be subject to the same liberty and individual rights of consumers / community to give him bad press, and an economic black eye for his choices.
     
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    Shiva_TD Progressive Libertarian Past Donor

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    Not if it is discriminatory without any ligitmate business reason. This believe was why there was racial segregation in the South for so long where African-Americans were denied access to the same enterprises that whites were allowed to use. No individual should violate the Rights of another Individual and denial of access to goods or services based upon invidious discrimination is a violation of the Rights of the Individual.

    This is a problem I have with many so-called conservatives today. They are opposed to the inalienable Rights of the Individual in our society while our government was founded upon the ideal that the protection of our inalienable Rights was the primary purpose of government. They perhaps think this only applies to the government infringement upon our Rights but in reality its more about other individuals violating our Rights.
     
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    Shiva_TD Progressive Libertarian Past Donor

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    If he sells guns to the public then he cannot discriminate against who the "public" is. He can make rules such as prohibiting someone from bringing a loaded gun into the establisment but those rules must apply to everyone. He cannot impose invidious discrimination that prevents a person from purchasing products he offers to the public. His discrimination would be no different than racial or gender discrimination and is rightfully against the laws of the United States.
     
  15. stig42

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    Just to (*)(*)(*)(*) this (*)(*)(*)(*)er off is there anything he can do if you tell him you’re an Obama voter after you buy?
     
  16. E_Pluribus_Venom

    E_Pluribus_Venom Well-Known Member

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    Wrong decade. The current one is perfectly fine, and available for reference.
     
  17. churchmouse

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    The Democrats are the party of intimidations. Lets see if the Black Panthers stood at polling places this time around..oh yes they did. It is this party that has the long shameful past history of bigotry and racism.

    Lets think back.....Franklin Delano Roosevelt, Democrat icon and orchestrator of Japanese Internment
    - Ex-House Minority Leader Dick Gephardt, former affiliate of a St. Louis area racist group
    - Ex-Senate President Pro Tempore Robert Byrd, former Ku Klux Klansman known for making bigoted slurs on national television
    - Rev. Jesse Jackson, Democrat keynote speaker and race hustler known for making anti-Semitic slurs
    - Rev. Al Sharpten, Democrat activist and perennial candidate and race hustler known inciting anti-Semitic violence in New York City
    - Sen. Ernest Hollings, leading Democrat Senator known for use of racial slurs against several minority groups
    - Lee P. Brown, former Clinton cabinet official and Democrat mayor of Houston who won reelection using racial intimidation against Hispanic voters
    - Andrew Cuomo, former Clinton cabinet official and Democrat candidate for NY Governor who made racist statements about a black opponent.
    - Dan Rather, Democrat CBS news anchor and editorialist known for using anti-black racial epithets on a national radio broadcast
    - Donna Brazile, former Gore campaign manager known for making anti-white racial attacks. Brazile has also worked for Jackson, Gephardt, and Michael Dukakis


    "The Democrat Party and the Ku Klux Klan: Aside from the multiple Klan members who have served in elected capacity within the high ranks of the Democrat Party, the political party itself has a lengthy but often overlooked history of involvement with the Ku Klux Klan. Though it has been all but forgotten by the media, the Democrat National Convention of 1924 was host to one of the largest Klan gatherings in American history. Dubbed the "Klanbake convention" at the time, the 1924 Democrat National Convention in New York was dominated by a platform dispute surrounding the Ku Klux Klan. A minority of the delegates to the convention attempted to condemn the hate group in the party's platform, but found their proposal shot down by Klan supporters within the party. As delegates inside the convention voted in the Klan's favor, the Klan itself mobilized a celebratory rally outside. On July 4, 1924 one of the largest Klan gatherings ever occurred outside the convention on a field in nearby New Jersey. The event was marked by speakers spewing racial hatred, celebrations of their platform victory in the Democrat Convention, and ended in a cross burning."

    The complete list of the 21 Democrats who opposed the Civil Rights Act of 1964 includes Senators:

    - Hill and Sparkman of Alabama
    - Fulbright and McClellan of Arkansas
    - Holland and Smathers of Florida
    - Russell and Talmadge of Georgia
    - Ellender and Long of Louisiana
    - Eastland and Stennis of Mississippi
    - Ervin and Jordan of North Carolina
    - Johnston and Thurmond of South Carolina
    - Gore Sr. and Walters of Tennessee
    - H. Byrd and Robertson of Virginia
    - R. Byrd of West Virginia


    A whopping 40% of the House Democrats VOTED AGAINST the Civil Rights Act, while 80% of Republicans SUPPORTED it. Republican support in the Senate was even higher. Similar trends occurred with the Voting Rights Act of 1965, which was supported by 82% of House Republicans and 94% of Senate Republicans.
    It took the hard work of Republican Senate Minority Leader Everett Dirksen and Republican Whip Thomas Kuchel to pass the Civil Rights Act (Dirksen was presented a civil rights accomplishment award for the year by the head of the NAACP in recognition of his efforts). Upon breaking the Democrat filibuster of the 1964 Civil Rights Act, Republican Dirksen took to the Senate floor and exclaimed "The time has come for equality of opportunity in sharing in government, in education, and in employment. It will not be stayed or denied. It is here!" (Full text of speech). Sadly, Democrats and revisionist historians have all but forgotten (and intentionally so) that it was Republican Dirksen, not the divided Democrats, who made the Civil Rights Act a reality. Dirksen also broke the Democrat filibuster of the 1957 Civil Rights Act that was signed by Republican President Eisenhower.

    Outside of Congress, the three most notorious opponents of school integration were all Democrats:
    - Orval Faubus, Democrat Governor of Arkansas and one of Bill Clinton's political heroes
    - George Wallace, Democrat Governor of Alabama
    - Lester Maddox, Democrat Governor of Georgia



    You want more......? This is the history that the Democratic Party wants to hide. And if its sheeple were educated they would not make claims such as the one you made.

    http://gopcapitalist.tripod.com/democratrecord.html
     
  18. Omicron

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    That's just a marketing gimmik, probably copied from the Chick-fil-eh anti-same-sex-marriage stunt, where the owner publicly announced he was against same-sex-marriage, thus costing him the 10% of the market that's gay, but guaranteeing himself all of the red-neck component of the remaining 90%.

    Likewise, this gun-shop owner knows he's alienating 736 out of 4,280 possible customers, or 17% of the market, but he's guaranteeing himself all the red-neck component of the remaining 83%, which will be more than half, because he's living in a red state.

    It's the same as if a restaurant owner in the gay district of San Francisco were to advertize that they will not serve anyone who voted for Romney. They know they're not going to loose many customers, because Romney supporters probably wouldn't be eating there anyway, but it will draw in the anti-Romney crowd from their competitors.
     
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    There is no "conservative party" anymore, Shiva. The GOP has been assimilated by the old John Birchers.

    Resistance is futile.
     
  20. mikezila

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    then the plaintiff would be admitting that Obama voters are stupid. i don't see that happening.
     
  21. churchmouse

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    If you put the gay marriage issue up for vote on a national level..it would not pass. Are all the citizens who are against it rednecks? You liberals are the least intolerant people in the country...whiners and complainers. Anyone with morals devestates you.

    And get this ...if a restaurant owner in San Francisco did not want to serve Romney supporters.....THEY SHOULD NOT HAVE TO SERVE ROMNEY SUPPORTERS.
     
  22. Omicron

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    You're missing the point... it's just a marketting gimick that would only work in a red state.
     
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    define communism and provide your reasoning for thinking I'm one.
     
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    As if commies couldn't own guns in a commie state... or are you going to tell me you didn't know that Russians were allowed to own guns under the Soviet system? Hunting was one of the favorite passtimes... especially amoung those who lived in Siberia.
     
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