just how widespread is 2012 voter fraud...

Exactly what I said. I know they are.

I link to www.democrats.org and you link to this site? As if it represents the republicans as a whole, let alone conservatives?

LMAO

Dig a little deeper to try and spin the fact that YOUR party, on THEIR website, are opposed to a voter I.D.

LMAO

Now suddenly you are a small government advocate, opposed to a large intrusive government?

Let me guess, you also support the Affordable Healthcare Act. Right?

Instituting an ID system to protect the integrity of our election process, and you throw out this non-sense.

Pretty sick dude. Seriously.

Finally, something that isn't left winger cheerleading.

For federal elections, the voter id should be federally issued. That is why I suggested the SS card. Everybody already has one.

 

If you believe there can be an election with millions of people casting votes, in hundreds of thousands of polling places, with thousands of volunteer election judges... and there is no fraud, I got a bridge to sell you.

http://www.charlotteobserver.com/2012/09/02/3497857/group-says-it-found-30000-dead.html

http://miami.cbslocal.com/2012/05/09/exclusive-florida-investigating-potential-non-citizen-voters/

http://nbcpolitics.nbcnews.com/_new...stration-worker-charged-with-voter-fraud?lite

http://www.sfgate.com/news/crime/ar...in-Nevada-for-alleged-voter-fraud-4004575.php


This list could go on forever.


The sad thing is, the left effectively endorses this behavior and the corruption of the system by becoming complacent in instituting procedures which would reduce the ease of these tactics on both sides.

 

As we have all said- there is no evidence of significant voter fraud.

Of course there must be- there are millions of voters. But there is no evidence of significant voter fraud, and there is no evidence that your proposed solution would stop whatever there is.

The social security card option is a bad one- in my opinion- because it has information that should not be casually shown to anyone.

Again- not against the concept of a national voter ID- actually it should be used for voting and for employment- as long as it is set up properly, far in advance of elections and with outreach to make sure that the those who currently don't have ID's can easily obtain them.

How would you prevent voter fraud with absentee voting?

 

You nailed it.
Their efforts at suppressing the vote failed and they knew they had to have it succeed to win the election, their candidate and their party was/is that lame.
Until the rightwing learns to put country ahead of party, they will keep losing.

 

What does that have to do with voter fraud as is suggested by the OP.

 

Fine, please let us know the results of the investigations.

 

The irony of this post is astounding.

"Suppressing the vote".

Liberal victimization. A voter ID card would not suppress anything other than fraud.

 

You're projecting again.

 

Only one of these is "suspected" in person voter fraud. Sure, there are a few idiots out there, but if you look for documented cases it seems like the few which exist are insignificant. After all, if 3 people voted for Romney twice, would it make a difference?

 

Not voter fraud. People who are dead suspected to be still on the voter rolls; no evidence that this ever led to a fraudulent vote.

Not voter fraud. The Florida purge was a particularly egregious case, in that out of the approximately 2,700 people originally on the list, 2,625 of them were found to be legitimate citizens with the right to vote. Oh, and this also documents a total of 0 cases of actual fraudulent votes being cast.

Not voter fraud. Registration fraud. There's a difference. Again, didn't lead to a single fraudulent vote being cast.

Yay! There's one! Now wait for her to be convicted or exhonorated, and you may or may not have your first case!

Yes, and none of it is actual voter fraud. As I said above:

Uh... Did you read my response to you? You know, the one where I pointed out that 10% of the voting-age populace has no photo ID? Furthermore, how far is it to your nearest DMV? If it's outside of biking distance, then maybe, just maybe, you can understand the problems here.

 

Lol... "True the Vote". A right-wing voter suppression group that will be investigated soon in Ohio because they committed felonies related to the election.

 

Funny you should worry about "maybe voter fraud," but do not mention a word about the likelihood that the Right was so very surprised (especially Rove) by the fact that Obama won BECAUSE Rove's team HAD PLANNED TO RIG the whole voting system. . and that it is only at the last minute that the plan was foiled by Anonymous putting in a FIREWALL that kept the Rove's team from accessing the ability to change the votes.

Does that sound far fetched? Certainly no more than your crazy conspiracy theory!

 

The LEFT?

How about THE STATES, and how about THE LIBERTERIANS?

In fact, just about everyone in the political spectrum has opposed the 2005 ID card legislation, and it has led to it being postponed twice. . .not it is suppose to be established in 2013. . . if there are no more delays!

Get your fact straight, will you? The ONLY thing the Left was opposed to is to suddenly, 6 months prior to the elections, require an ID card that had been in the making (unsuccessfully) for 7 years!

Could you please, once in awhile, provide REALISTIC and FAIR comments based on REAL SOURCES instead of mere propaganda?

It would really help your credibility!

 

The Repukeblican liars thought that the majority of people in Minnesota demanded voter ID. But the referendum they imposed was soundly DEFEATED by the patriotic majority in the recent election. In fact, REAL Republicans voted against it.



When will the far right Republican America haters speak/write the TRUTH?

 

Forum Republicans have no credibility whatsoever.

As I wrote above, the majority in Minnesota voted AGAINST voter ID.

 

"Voter fraud" is a Republican marketing ploy. It's their term for suppression of potential Democratic voters. The last time we had fraudulent elections we ended up with George Bush in the White House.

 

South Park did a episode on it. That is how bad it was.

/ thread

 

Keep in mind that part of the humor of that episode was just how ludicrous Cartman's scheme was. And, of course, what he did was not, in fact, voter fraud, but rather electoral fraud - also would not be stopped by voter ID laws.

 

Dead people voting seems to justify voter ID laws.

 

How often has this happened, verifiably? And would it not be smarter to perform that illegal vote via absentee ballot?

 

Of course it would, and I'm not by any means arguing that the Republican voter ID laws are actually trying to address these real problems, but that doesn't make these real problems any less real.

Hell, don't even get me started on electronic voting machines. An abacus has been around for a long time, and there is a reason we never used it to count votes!!

 

And asserting that they are real does not make them any more real.

 

No, but the op does a pretty good job of it!

 

No. He doesn't. He offers evidence that the potential for voter fraud is there, given both insider information and a desire to commit a major felony that does all of essentially nothing. He offers evidence that certain parts of the country are incredibly well segregated. I recommend you read one of my earlier responses to the thread, where I basically go through all of the OP's claims. There has been no evidence that more than, well, one fraudulent vote has been cast.

 

If you aren't smart enough to get some form of photo ID, then you aren't smart enough to vote, sorry, thats just the way it is.