Republicans: Time To Change A Same-Sex Marriage Talking Point

That is the definition of polygamy. One person married to several people who do not have marriage bonds between themselves. You need to double check your sources.

 

The millionaire I mentioned who adopted his girlfriend to shield assets may in fact be considered the "parent" in the eyes of the law, but to me, that adoption is a joke. There is no parent child relationship there. Just like with a same sex couple. They may acquire a legal marriage and be considered "married" in the eyes of the law, but as a marriage, it's no more real than the parent child relationship of that millionaire and his girlfriend.

 

What are your criteria for determining what is or isn't a real marriage? What is the basis of those criteria?

I suspect you're just trying to bait me.

 

He is. He's already stated he has no interested in productive dialogue. Now he's simply trying to display his ignorance and be offensive. I would discontinue dialogue, there's nothing useful to be had at this point.

 

LGBT people are fine, except those on PF. They are queer...and I don't mean that in a good way.

 

I don't have a criteria. I just don't think a same sex relationship is comparable to an opposite sex relationship or marriage. You don't think that millionaire and his girlfriend have an actual father-daughter relationship do you? Even though they have legal paperwork that says they do?

 

What about an actual adopted daughter and her father? Would you say that they have a legitimate relationship if he adopted her as a child and raised her her whole life?

 

To be totally honest, and I realize this may be a crappy thing to say, but I doubt a parent can really bond with an adopted child in the same way they can bond with their own. I mean, I'm glad there are people out there who are filling a need to provide homes for kids without families, but I view it as a poor substitute that's better than nothing.

 

I appreciate the honesty, but I would disagree just from firsthand experience (I know that does not constitute actual evidence). Some adopted kids feel even more strongly about their parents over their bio parents because the adoptee ones wanted them whereas the bio ones didn't for whatever reason. So maybe the bond is different, but I'd say its strength is equal in magnitude. There are more overtures of loyalty involved, I think.

 

What did you want me to double check? Yes its called polygamy. Its still multiple marriages to each woman. All of them between a man and a woman. NOT one single marriage.

 

So this conclusion is a product of random thought then. If there are no criteria, no premises for reaching that conclusion, then we can dismiss it outright as wholly irrational.

Not going to follow you down this rabbit hole to take the discussion completely off-topic.

It does indeed appear that there is nothing productive to be obtained by continuing this conversation.

 

The rabbit hole is, at least to me, the crux of the argument. Having a legal document saying you are the daughter (or husband) doesn't make it so.

 

That's the big debate now among Republicans, whether to triangulate Dem positions or stand their ground. I don't know what they'll end up doing, but I have every confidence they'll make the wrong decision.

 

You've been claiming it's not polygamy.