Zimmerman defense looks to present Trayvon accurately.

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  1. Natty Bumpo

    Natty Bumpo Well-Known Member

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    As it should be. It is an acknowledgement of human fallibility that differentiates American jurisprudence from the fanaticism of religious inquisitors.

    As William Blackstone averred, it is "better that ten guilty persons escape than that one innocent suffer."

    The attempts at character assassination - of either the deceased or his killer - are merely irrelevant self-indulgences by prejudiced people.
     
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    You said

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    He did not now are you going to retract your attempt to smear OMara or not? You got it wrong now admit it.
     
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    http://www.gzlegalcase.com/

    OMara hints that there is something in Trayvon's past that is useful to the defense. IMO, he's bluffing.

    The security company also does investigations.. If they had produced something to indicate that Trayvon was an avid MMA person with a penchant for bullying and violent attacks, they would have been paid.
     
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    Without us being there he could say just about anything. On that tape I remember him saying the kid seemed aimless..to me that would suggest drugs. You and I have both seen that, and although is some places I hardly take notice like train stations, Bus stations, a main street, it would be noticeable in many other situations. In my neighborhood it would look very odd, where I work it would not.

    It's like thinking about buying a certain car, you rarely see it on the road then notice every one. So, if you are looking for ''suspicious'', you would pick it up sooner, or at least ''think'' you are. If you are looking for him to say,,''Well, he's was young and black'' forget it...LOL

    I can certainly understand your feelings or suspicions of targeting. As a young Italian boy I faced it many times myself back in the day, hell many of the expensive stores like Fortunoffs I avoided when I was a kid. Geez I felt guilty just walking in...hahahah.



    Seems all those questions could be put to rest pretty easily, even the gun...it's Florida. The injuries are the thing, and this is where Travon's attorneys will have a problem, no matter how hard they try they just will not be able to dismiss them.
    Look, lets say you can find a truly unbiased person, an average working person sitting at a desk job all day, lets pick a woman. Now, you plant a picture in her mind of her, or her kids head hitting the cement and what do you have? Now remember they are not street smart like you and I, what will she envision? what?
    She will see a dangerous, vicious, cold attack,,that's what. So you see, you must think like an average person. You and I played tackle football, no gear in a lot with plenty of glass, our heads got banged all the time, we bled all the time. To us it's minor,,,not them! I truly think he will have a problem if he tries to put off those injuries as minor,,truly. I think it will work against him...

    I could be real wrong, maybe those people wont think anything about the in juries. Perhaps like you say many will dismiss them,,,but not all, I guarantee that.
     
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    I can see how you misquote people and make false statements. You probably are getting this crap from the phony Twitter account that was created.
     
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    Smearing OMara? NO.. Pity for him having an idiot for a client.

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    Smearing OMara? NO.. Pity for him having an idiot for a client.
     
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    Another false statement. No big surprise.
     
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    The phony twitter account was closed ten days ago. LOLOL Read the real Robert jr now. He's an idiot.. having a gas at the expense of the brother he hadn't seen in five years.

    Anything for celebrity.
     
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    The DA will put the whole chain of events in context from the time ZImmy first lays eyes on martin to the very last word out of Zimmy’s mouth. But to comment on your female juror the DA will also ask that juror to imagine how see would feel about an armed, unknown man following first in a car and then on foot, as a father of two girls that makes my blood boil. Don’t forget the DA will be highlighting plenty of discrepancies and inconsistencies. I can easily see a guilty verdict, no stretch needed
     
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    Well at least you now acknowledge the phony Twitter account. I guess that is something, not much, but something....LOL!
     
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    Oh I told you about the parody account several days ago.. It was hilarious.
     
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    So now we see where you get your info. Thanks for the reveal.
     
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    The Zimmerman boys are dumb as dirt.. They simply can't follow instructions or keep their mouths shut.
     
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    I dont think so, people in Florida especially gated communities do not look at these guys as thugs, what they fear is unwanted strangers.
     
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    You are partially correct. Courts take head injuries very seriously. One reason is that a head injury can cause serious medical problems, obviously, but in the case of an attack these type of injuries show the intent of the person who inflicted them. Someone who punches a person in the face then pins them down only to cause further head injuries is intending to do serious bodily harm. There is no doubt that Trayvon was intending to do so. That is why the State and Crump are trying to say that Trayvon was "scared" as a way to explain away the injuries. O'Mara was smart to hold up the photos of George's injuries in the last hearing. There is no doubt he was attacked and Trayvon inteneded to do him serious bodily injury. Saying Trayvon attacked out of fear is a no go in this case. Evidence proves he lost George and then returned to confront him. That is anger, not fear.
     
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    And people say Zimmy can’t get a fair trial

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    And people say Zimmy can’t get a fair trial
     
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    You might need to get the judge to stalk them and pull a gun.​
     
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    Zimmerman appointed himself Martin's judge, jury and execution, not much unlike Adam Lanza. He feels entitled to pass judgement on others intents, somehow able to read their minds, motives and foresee the future, then preemptively attempting to apprehend (put hands) on Martin KNOWING the police were on their way. Zimmerman wanted to be a cop and wanted to show the cops, HE, is cop material. NOW his attorney and his rightwing supporters have already place Martin back on trial again in order to prove... he deserved to be shot and killed. The victim is on trial.... in FL, in this thread and across rightwingerland. I understand you HOPE his school records ...something, anything, will justify his murder.

    But, you see it does not matter if he was a real bad kid, an average kid with a few issues or an angel who'd never had any behavior or legal problems at all. ON THAT NIGHT, at that time... he was unarmed, he was minding his own business, walking home....almost there and some STRANGE stranger was following him... tried to apprehend him ...for God only knows why... in Trayvon's mind and he defended himself... The ISSUE is that Trayvon STOOD HIS GROUND and lost.
     
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    I could not agree more or have said it better although you seem to be misunderstanding my position. Take a moment to read through some of my posts on the subject they will clear that up for you
     
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    It's funny how quickly this thread went from. . .

    THEY GOT TRAYVON'S SCHOOL RECORDS!!!
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    To. . .

    What do you mean they didn't find anything???
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    BWAHAHAHHAAH!!!
     
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    If they do find something maybe they will put it in the goldsboro museum/notary public/trailer! BWAHAHAHAHA!

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    Aside from the fate of the chap who shot Martin to death, a matter exclusively for a jury, and the peripheral matter of those who feel the need to smear either the deceased or his killer, this dude Zimmerman did make one pathetic vigilante.

    Stalking a kid on a routine errand for junk food may indicate a conscientious attitude, but such an activity resulting in the death of either individual means he bungled the encounter very, very badly. There is no escaping it. Real cops recognize that inescapable reality readily.
     
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    GZ has already answered this. Wandering aimlessly. Looking in houses. Possibly on drugs.


    The investigator for the prosecution has already answered this. They have no reason to disbelieve GZ's account that he began heading back to his vehicle after the dispatcher said "you don't need to do that."


    That seems logically obvious. Walking through a crime-ridden neighborhood and keeping an eye on a character wandering that is possibly on drugs. It would be dumb to not keep your weapon close at hand.


    The police have already answered this question on record. You refuse to believe the police account. GZ's injuries are consistent with his description of what occurred.


    You need some new and better questions.
     
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    If a cop was assaulted while on patrol, knocked to the ground with his nose broken and his head banged into the ground, any cop would also draw their weapon and fire.
     
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