What would YOU do to return the USA to former Glory and world respectability?

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  1. RevAnarchist

    RevAnarchist New Member Past Donor

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    This thread is different from the others I usually post. I am asking for the PF members political/practical opinions including the usual suspects and tinfoil hat fringe posters.

    Short version. If you plan to reply please read the long version. Ok, You have been ‘made‘. You are Supreme absolute anything goes dictator of the USA and have the power to do anything some what crediable to save our country and return her to her former glory or above. I am referencing material wealth and security. Other issues like our former rights such as individual freedom will be up to you, however happiness of your citizens will be a priority.


    Long Version

    Think of this thing as serious ’what if’ case. Einstein called these type of exercises ‘thought experiments’. (which a large percentage of usual suspects are!

    Lol just kidding guys).

    The talking point is; The time is the present. You have just been appointed the supreme dictator of America by a coup, lets say the coup made you the ‘Most High Leader’ to save the USA from going bankrupt and to return it to its former glory even if that meant attempting to convert the population to Islam* or change its system of government or economic engine. Please attempt to keep your proposals somewhat credible. Lets say the most fringe one should get is like good science fiction where the starship has propulsion systems we could build in the foreseeable future, like a fusion nuclear drive. Maybe we could put the responses I my blog if they get too long? Anyway if no one can come up with a solution I will began buttressing my own reply with relevant research etc. which is coming soon!

    reva
     
  2. kenrichaed

    kenrichaed Banned

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    I would not strive for respect I would seek power.

    I would start by arming every country in the Middle East with nukes and then watch the fireworks. After those countries are gone I would move in and secure all the oil. After that I would dominate resources so everyone would have to bargain with me to operate. You control resources you control the power. I may have to give parts off to Russia and China to avoid all out war with them but I would still retain the largest amount.

    The new income, not to mention land, would set the US and her people up for a very long time.
     
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    Genocide and theft would solve our problems.
     
  4. kenrichaed

    kenrichaed Banned

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    They would be killing themselves. Nobody is forcing them to nuke each other.

    Are you trying to imply that they wouldn't be responsible enough not to start a nuclear war.

    If they do however they will be in no shape to do anything with the oil so if we don't grab it somebody else will. No point in letting it sit there.
     
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    Close all overseas bases.
    Round up the illegal aliens.
    Seal the Mexican border, with a high wall and a shoot-on-sight order for the Border Patrol.
    Get cracking on several thousand fourth-generation nuclear power plants...thorium, pebble-bed, or fast-breeders. Fuel them by reprocessing spent fuel. As they come on line, decommission old oil, gas, and coal plants.
     
  6. custer

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    Happiness, you say?

    I'd give everyone :beer: and :weed:

    People would respect me then!
     
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    The question cannot be answered unless you define when this period of "former glory" existed and why.
     
  8. Marshal

    Marshal New Member Past Donor

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    No... I think the question is clear.

    It's a VERY difficult question.

    Let's try to solve it in the most ethical way... and try to honour the American traditional values...

    The big thing, is to cleanse the country of its drug and artificial food epidemics.

    People will do VERY well if they simply have no drugs, and if the food is natural. There IS enough food for everybody, just with less waste.

    Laws changes will include a fair tax for everybody, flat across the whole system. Any tax loophole is illegal. If somebody cannot pay, they don't pay, and it becomes debt. The debt is not violently enforced.

    Ending of corporate personhood. It is ALREADY unconstitutional what the US Government is doing holding corporations as first class people giving them superior and in many cases the only government influence and superior speech/money than the common people for whom the country's constitutional promise binds composition.

    End the corporation stranglehold and suffocation of the US economy by nationalizing and splitting into pieces the evil mega corporations.

    Then the United States will return to prosperity.
     
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    Vote a straight Democratic ticket every time, and advise my son and grandsons to do the same until the last fool who thinks Reagan had a brain is crapping in his diapers in a nursing home.

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    That's easy. 1941-1980, when the middle class was growing and the rich carried their own weight.
     
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    Fine, if you want a reasonable answer I will give you one.

    I would not worry about America on Earth but I would put triple our effort into colonizing space and setting up a new America, still part of us, in the heavens. The times we were most respected was when we were striving for the frontier, discovering more things, coming up with new ideas.

    America was the epitomy of the world during that time, roughly 1750-1850. Our glory days. Once established in space I would begin to colonize, create, industrialize either plantets, moons, or space stations. This would equal the time we were glorified as in our post world war might. Our best times during this period saw the rest of the world playing catch-up with American ingenuity.

    As our space exploits continue the residual effect will be felt by all Americans, even planetside. I would not worry about deep space colonization but our solar system is certainly in reach. The benefits to our industry alone would make this well worth it.
     
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    I would prefer to teach children to think for themselves instead of hate. Some times you have to let it go.

     
  12. Leffe

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    What would YOU do to return the USA to former Glory and world respectability?

    You could start by re-introducing some form of democratic rule.

    Remove the financial incentive to incarcerate your own people.

    Stop the supply of arms to Mexico which is protecting your cocaine supply.

    Stop invading countries in general.

    Stop tampering in the electoral processes of countries where your "interests" lie.

    Control your corporations when they operate in other (3rd world) countries.

    Control your banks, with the aim of helping to stabilise the worlds banking system.
     
  13. Iolo

    Iolo Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Ask for the Queen to forgive you and take you back. The whole British people will reject the idea with horrified disgust and you'll be able to develop a Twenty-First Century Constitution instead of that archaic nonsense! :)
     
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    I have a different take on this. I would reverse the tax system. The State governments get 18 percent and the Federal gets 12 percent across the board. You can control State politics more so than Federal. All entitlement programs and Education is at the state level.

    I know I am a simpleton but for 200+ years we have voted the best and brightest on both sides and look at us now. What a mess.

    I do not understand why everyone runs to the .gov for solutions. Keep it local and groovy.
     
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    Some how I knew that would be the rights answer, 'kill everyone'.
     
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    Turn the nation into East Germany.....that might work.
     
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    Really So simple.A real piece of cake.
    Just find another Ronald Reagan.Get him elected and we go back to
    a far better time in our vaunted history.
    Reagan had all the ingredients of a Great leader.Honesty,Integrity and
    purpose.He was a true blue american.Had the Bio to prove it.
    He was a great communicator and man of compasson.Penned all his own
    letters to fallen servicemen.He was tough when the Bell rang.
    Peace thru Strength
    Not one shot was fired in the capitulation of the U.S.S.R.
    Reagan overcame Stagflation and an Air Traffic Controllers strike.
    Doubled the amount of receipts to the Treasury { from $500 billion to 1 Trillion }
    The Constitution was never in doubt.Liberties and Freedoms abounded.
    This is such a no brainer.
    Find the closest thing to a Ronald Reagan.
    He did our Country Proud.
     
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    If you think really hard, you might reaiize why that is a stupid response. Think hard, I promise it won't hurt.
     
  19. Kurmugeon

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    Its a false and deceptive question.


    What Made America Great was the fact that no single man had dictatorial powers, but the decisions that mattered on a nationa/state level were made by Democraticly Elected Representatives.


    Replacing that democratic governance with a totalitarian dictator will NEVER result in America being able to return to its former glory, because no single man can possibly be as well educated in the details of a thousand various venues of governance as a group of democratically elected leaders.

    More importantly, as a dictator, you are not thinking in terms of being accountable to the people for your actions in the next election, so your decisions will be frought with hubris and self-serving short sightedness.

    The only possible good thing such a dictator could do, would be to organize free and fair elections to restore the American Democratic Republic form of government, then step aside to allow it to save the country.


    There is no senario where America being taken over by coupe is a good thing.

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  20. suedanim

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    Well then, we're fighting for similar causes.. These days Republicans seek to continue the pattern of the last 10-15 years of undermining the middle class, ripping them off till they have nothing left and end up at poverty level, while at the same time blatantly ripping off babyboomers, the former middle class, who worked hard all our lives, served in this country's wars, paid our taxes and helped make this country GREAT. Instead of any thanks for all that, we are getting short shrifted, if not death paneled BY REPUBLICANS and the medical insurance companies they coddle.

    Does anyone have any idea what is happening to this nations elderly? I'm talking about people in their 80's, WWII veterans... and that era of folks, who are getting dumped out of hospitals within a DAY of major surgery. There are truely some horror stories going on and its a (*)(*)(*)(*) shame upon this country. AND...there is NO ONE to blame but the insurance companies and hospitals. When is somebody going to do something to stop it? Nobody cares what happens to elderly and disabled in this country any more.

    You want to talk about restoring the USA to its former glory? START with how you treat the elderly, disabled, children, MOTHERS who are raising the next generation. I am SICK of rightwing hate... who thinks the remedy to this country's ills is disenfranchising voters, eliminating entitlements for elderly and disabled. Good God.. how mentally twisted do you have to be to promote those ideas...PAUL RYAN???
     
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    snakestretcher Banned

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    When was this glorious time you'd like to return America to, exactly?
     
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    Exactly; rose-coloured hindsight has a convenient way of filtering out the unpleasant stuff, and fooling one into believing there was a 'Golden Age'. In truth there never was, and never will be.
     
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    snakestretcher Banned

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    Yeah, turning traitor and arming terrorists. I'd be real proud of that! Or did you conveniently forget?
     
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    You don't want an individualist/tribal anarchist as dictator. You just don't.
    But I will say, we'd be running a surplus within a year.
     
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    I think you are forgetting your own Nations history? I also want to say you are a very jaded person from what I am reading.
    May I suggest starting a hobby that you gain pleasure from. I enjoy my Gardening, cooking, canning, my motorcycle, my jeep and being with my family and friends.

    Once in a while a I also visit the pub and end up calling a cab.

     

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