George Zimmerman attorneys depose witnesses who say cries for help came from a child

Sure dear!. . .Then why did ZIMMERMAN state that he fell BACK (probably one of the only true statement he made!).

And I have NEVER admitted that Zimmerman's statement makes sense. . .because he made so many DIFFERING statements that I would never have known which one to refer to anyway!

 

Your personal experience means nothing and I think you are full of (*)(*)(*)(*) anyway, I think you will pretend to have any experience you think supports Zimmy’s story

 

Since he ended up on his back he had to have fallen back at some point....derp!

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Do you have proof otherwise? Didn't think so.....

 

Yep. . .that's what I say!

Amazing how we can agree sometimes! Too bad it is usually when you don't understand what I am saying!

 

Yes, some people do understand what you are saying. But it is true George did fall backward at some point after he stumbled. Thatnks for pointing that out.

 

Nope. .. he stated (to the police) that he was hit on the nose and fell back, and immediately Trayvon jumped on him and straddled him. . .and you know the rest of his (many) stories!

But . . you really think he "stumbled" after being hit?
Do you also believe he stumbled FORTY FEET in the direction OPPOSITE to the direction of the punch?

Failed again! Maybe your comments would be more informed if you listened to the audio tapes!

 

So your saying he stumbled 40 feet sideways waving his arms about the air and then fell backwards before Trayvon could mount him and proceed with the ass wiping that must have been a hell of a sight to see……………ROTFLMAO

 

Unless you can show proof of your claim don't bother with this nonsense.

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Why should he have to do that? Just because Druggie Trayvon's body was found that far doesn't mean that is where he fell to start with....DUH!

 

You don't understand.......Trayvon the Child (TM) never assaulted GZ......these were all self-inflicted blows to his nose and the back of GZ's head.....nothing else really makes sense does it?

 

So TM was sitting straight up when he was shot, and not leaned toward Z when attacking him...allowing for a direct front to back trajectory? I didn't read that in the autopsy report.

 

Are you saying Zimmy moved the body; I gave Zimmy seven feet of slack, have you even listened to the recorded interviews?

 

That is the whole point. . .DUH!
What the real question is, is this: why did Zimmerman pursue Trayvon for 40 feet down the alley AWAY from where the confrontation first happened and AWAY from his truck?

But since you seem to have a real confused mind at this point, and you refuse to consider logic and reason, why don't YOU just stop reading my posts and leave me alone?

I really do not care what delusions you entertain! I provided the link to ZIMMERMAN's statement to the police. If that is not proof enough for you, just enjoy your silly illusions.

You NEVER back up ANY of your "opinions" with facts or supporting evidences, and you call others "liars!"

You sure are a piece of work!

Good bye!!!!

 

If there were a story without a boatload of inconsistencies and contradictions maybe I would not be confused, the trouble with Zimmy is none of his story’s are consistent with the physical evidence, that’s what we call a (*)(*)(*)(*)ing liar

 

Probably not strait up but not parallel either and if he was parallel enough for that shot to enter the way it did he would have been laying on top of him which comes with its own problem

 

It doesn't SAY that in the autopsy report. . . it only shows the TRAJECTORY of the bullet.

But it is clear that IF the position of both men was as described by Zimmerman (Z flat on his back, reaching for his gun inside the waist band over his Right hip, with Trayvon straddling him and holding his hands on Z's mouth and nose, therefore inclined toward Zimmerman) and the two men were STRUGGLING (not stationary), the bullet would have come from the RIGHT Side and entered the body in an ANGLE, and the distance would have been much closer than the 12 to 14" described.

Simple. Take a pencil, and place yourself flat on the floor, and ask your wife, friend,. . .whomever, to straddle you AND TO MOVE AROUND (as if you were struggling), then pull that pencil out of your pocket, and point it to your friend's chest. Then look at the trajectory it would take. Better yet. Take a water gun and do the same thing. . .and ssee what part of your friend's blouse gets wet. . .would it be 1" from the middle of his/her chest. . .and in a DIRECT, FRONT TO BACK trajectory?

 

So you agree with me that all of GZ's wounds were self-inflicted, the broken nose....the lacerations to the back of his head ( you know those injuries we were told for months didn't exist)........they were all self-inflicted.....and GZ blew The Child Treyvon (TM) away while he stood there reading the Bible with a halo around his head......I'm glad we are in agreement with what took place that fateful night........

 

Does it take a lot of practice to write something so stupid or does it come natural?

 

So you have no response and have resorted to the time honored "progressive" tactic of an ad hominem attact.....I've met you a 1000 times....now be so kind as to tell me whether you think GZ's injuries were self-inflicted or not......its a yes/no question.....should be easy for even a "progressive" to answer.......but I won't hold my breath.....ROTFLMAO at you.

 

He responded to a bait. A mistake maybe, but why disappoint you?

Baiting was the ONLY purpose of the silly comment you made.

 

The moving around/struggling of Z is irrelevant, or at least lends credence to any reasonable random trajectory if there is a struggle. A practiced shooter will bring a gun to the center of their own body, and if you're going to use the sights you need to bring the gun in alignment with your right eye (if you're right eye dominant). Bring your squirt gun up to your right eye and guess where you're going to shoot someone directly facing you. Now Z was probably not able to bring the sights up to his eye, but muscle memory still comes into play, and he moves his right hand to the center of his body...especially if he brought his left hand on the gun to take a shot, which is also how most people train. Of course this is supposition based on Z's statements, but then your account is also supposition. A straight front to back shot is plausible....TM was leaning towards Z, Z brought the gun up to the center of his own body before pulling the trigger...in accordance with how everyone trains to shoot.

What is interesting in the autopsy report is the recording of soot on TM's wound. You have to be pretty close to get soot from a gunshot, within say 2 feet or so for a 9mm handgun. That coincides with Z's statements.

 

So I will ask the same question of this room temperature IQ "progessive"..... Were GZ's injuries includinding a broken nose and lacerations to the back of his head self-inflicted.....seems simple enough that even a "delusional progressive" could take a shot at answering.....instead of making yet another ad hominem attack.......but my patience wears thin at debating such people..,,

 

Witness testimony says a scuffle happened in that direction. George indicated he stumbled in that direction and tried to push Druggie Trayvon off of him. What more does anyone need to know? Druggie Trayvon punched George and tried to get him on the ground. As george was trying to get away Druggie Trayvon continued until George was on the ground and Druggie Trayvon had him pinned. W6 saw TM on top. These are facts supported by evidence and witness testimony. There is no proof otherwise.

You lose.

 

You are talking about "the perfect situation," like those you would find in a shooting range!

This was (if we can believe Zimmerman!) a STRUGGLE. . .and Zimmerman was "close to losing consciousness" and the kid was "trying to get the gun."

With ALL these elements in play, you are giving a "perfect situation for shooting" scenario! The "center of Zimmerman's body" was probably innacessible for that gun. . .if Trayvon was straddling him and bent over him while holding his hands over Zimmerman's mouth and nose, and with Zimmerman "beer gut!" And if Trayvon was REALLY trying to get that gun. . do you really think he would have allowed Zimmerman to bring that gun to "the center of his body" before grabbing that gun or at least attempting to do so and, in the process, deviating the trajectory?

And if you believe that, according to Zimmerman, Trayvon was LEANING over him while straddling him, how much space do you think was available between Zimmerman "beer gut" and Trayvon's chest? CERTAINLY NOT 2 feet!

But I am pretty sure that people a lot smarter than either of us, and more versed in forensic will be called to analyze all of those possibilities.. .So I am perfectly happy to wait and see!

 

You know what.. I don't give a feck if there was soot, whether Trayvon beat the living daylights out of George Zimmerman, in fact... I hope Trayvon laid on on hard and long before he died. George Zimmerman had NO RIGHT following that boy, no cause at all and IF he put his hands on Trayvon, Trayvonn had the right to lay him low... stand his ground indeed.

Deadbeat George.. laying up living on easy street on rightwinger dollars.. is counting his blessings. All's he had to do was profile a kid, stalk him.. harass him, challenge him to stop... and very probably put his stupid hands on Trayvon... and kill him. HE lives to tell his tale and because Trayvon was black... rightwingers LOVES them some George.

Had Trayvon been a white kid... you'd all sing a different tune about ol' George. OR... if George had been black.. and the kid white... George would be still sitting in JAIL right now and it would have never even made national news. Most definitely, Sean Hannity's racist loud mouth and the whole (*)(*)(*)(*) GOP of rightwing white supremacists would not be sending George hundreds of thousands of dollars for him and his wife to blow.

Nope.. GZ sits fat for that little ass kicking he took... wah, wah... poor George. HE walked out of that police station... a champ.. no limps, barely any scuffs. But rightwingers SWEAR Trayvon...who dared to try and save his own life... was the bad guy.

Rightwingers... get more evil and corrupt every day.

 

His nose was not broken and the owies on the back of his head look self-inflicted.