What would you do?

Discussion in 'Gun Control' started by OrlandoChuck, Feb 1, 2013.

  1. oldrwizr

    oldrwizr New Member

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    Drawing from concealment is great but now what? Risk shooting your daughter? Yes, I know, you make Bruce Willis in Last Man Standing look like Dianne Feinstein with your remarkable skills, but how about the rest of us that aren't similarly blessed? Even the TV cops don't shoot without considering what's around the target.
     
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    Me personally I dont carry a gun (yet) But always have my knife and I would be damned if someone tries takeing off with family like that. I do however drive a pick up 4x4 with the 5.4 (331) and they wont make it too far in your average van. Call cops while you chase dont just stand there. Discription and plates. If they are intent on hurting your kid they will do it regardless dont just sit and be a victim.
     
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    Small Town Guy Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The gun is concealed in a manner I can get to it even if pinned to the ground, I risk drawing and shooting it because the consequences of the assailants taking my daughter could be torture, rape and death. I prefer to make my own decisions regarding the appropriate actions for myself and my family and not wait on a law enforcement system that takes minutes to respond when seconds count. I prefer a system where I am responsible for the protection of my own family and I train as such, sometimes more than the "trained professionals do" Tell me Logician, what are the stats for murder after abduction? For the successful use of a concealed carry citizen using their weapon to defend their or their families lives? Tell me logician what would someone truely trained in logic need to make an informed decision about a given situation? I would appreciate an honest side by side comparison by someone who deals in "LOGIC" and not some snake oil salesman selling MSM gibberish.
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  4. Small Town Guy

    Small Town Guy Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Yup so we just let the daughter be taken off to be raped, tortured and murders we just rely on hope and change to keep her safe.....BTW You don't get to decide how I protect my family, feel free to let yours go....I won't. Oh and see if you can find some statistics on how many children are murdered after abduction, it might make you think eh?
     
  5. Logician0311

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    Dude, take your meds. All I did was ask about how the gun is concealed, given that (in the hypothetical situation) it was still accessible but couldn't be felt by someone "pinning you to the ground"...

    Feeling feisty?
    I could just easily ask for the comparative statistics of abduction to accidental shootings...
    The topic of this board is not critical thinking studies... That being said, this may help you with your question: http://cygnus-group.com/CIDM/reason.html
     
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    Small Town Guy Well-Known Member Past Donor

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  7. Logician0311

    Logician0311 Well-Known Member

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    I find your (presumably sarcastic) comments about medication disturbingly believable.

    Amusing considering the conservative viewpoints in relation to gay marriage, abortion, contraception, etc...

    *Sigh*
    Given that I do refer to specific examples when formulating the strongest arguments possible with the examples, but also look at arguments of others and make conclusions based on their assertions; I suppose I use a combination of inductive and deductive logic.
    Does that help?
     
  8. stjames1_53

    stjames1_53 Banned

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    [video=youtube;SFaLokC9hqk]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SFaLokC9hqk&feature=player_detailpage[/video]
     
  9. Small Town Guy

    Small Town Guy Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I'm sure you do but given the fact you like to quote statistics about the percentages of using a gun to commit suicide if you had one in your house I thought I might give you talking points other than the MSM


    really what are my viewpoints on aforemention topics?



    Actually yes cause in the area of inductive reasoning I find this to fit you: Because inductive reasoning is based upon probabilities, conclusions are considered to be cogent, rather than true. This is because the probability exists that the two accepted premises may not truly lead to the acceptable conclusion.
    In the area of Deductive reasoning for you I find that the statement "The key to the credibility of a deductive conclusion lies in the premises." The problem is your premise is always wrong and unsupported. Given these facts you should give up on logic, and rely on emotion.
     
  10. Logician0311

    Logician0311 Well-Known Member

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    Actually, I think I've only done that once; but thanks for the consideration.

    Are you asking me to look deep into a crystal ball?

    It's scary how much you sound like my wife right there... She's emotional and irrational as well.
     

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