They are poisoning our food on purpose.

yes it is.

 

Yep..The obvious lack of response from the 'slime' crowd speaks volumes about their complete and total ignorance of the facts and undying belief in their fantasy MSM stories. I'm waiting for them to somehow blame 'Bush' because that is their typical fall-back position.

 

Schools and the sick now..

Horsemeat scandal: traces found in school dinners and hospital meals

Public sector caterers and Whitbread chain dragged into scandal as FSA raids three food companies in north London and Hull.


Rogue horsemeat was on Friday identified in school dinners and hospital meals for the first time as officials from the Food Standards Agency confirmed new police raids on three more food companies.

Official tests of processed beef dishes sold in supermarkets revealed that 2% of those tested so far had found horsemeat but as those results were being announced the scandal was confirmed to have spread to both public sector caters and major restaurant chains owned by Whitbread.

In Lancashire cottage pies destined for 47 schools across the county were withdrawn after testing positive for horsemeat. It was not clear how long the contaminated food had been on the menu or how many pupils may have eaten it.

In Northern Ireland a range of burgers bound for hospitals were withdrawn after officials confirmed they contained equine DNA and food giant Compass, which supplies over 7000 sites in the UK and Ireland including schools and hospitals, said a burger product it supplied to two colleges and a small number of offices in Northern Ireland and the Republic of Ireland had tested positive.

As the horsemeat scandal continued into its sixth week, it was revealed that:

• The Food Standards Agency's first wave of test results from retailers found 2% of 2500 samples of processed beef products contained more than 1% horsemeat, although experts warned the testing "did not get to the root of the scandal." The contaminated samples were from seven products that had already been withdrawn, including Findus lasagne and Tesco burgers. None tested positive for the drug phenylbutazone - or "bute" - used on horses but banned from entering the food chain.

• Pub and hotel group Whitbread, which owns Premier Inn, Beefeater Grill and Brewers Fayre, confirmed horse DNA had been found in meat lasagnes and beefburgers.

• Officials at the department of health said it had written to NHS hospitals and "social care providers" asking them to carry out "suitable checking regimes on the authenticity of food."

• Sheffield council has suspended the use of all processed meat in schools and Staffordshire council said it had taken beef off school menus as a "precaution."

• The European Union decided to to start testing for the presence of unlabelled horsemeat in foods across the Continent. Tests will also be carried out for the presence of residues bute. In France veterinary and sanitary inspectors continued to investigate Spanghero, a meat processing and wholesale firm, accused by the government of fraudulently stamping the label "beef" on around 750 tonnes of cheap horse meat.

On Friday morning officials from the Food Standards Agency and police carried out three raids on suspect food companies - one in Hull and two in Tottenham. A spokesman confirmed computers and documentary evidence was seized, as well as meat samples. The raids follow the targeting of a slaughter house in West Yorkshire and a meat plant in Wales as part of the wider investigation.

Parents in Lancashire were told cottage pies on school menus had been found to have horsemeat in them on Friday. The council said only a small number of pupils had been exposed to the food and insisted there was no health risk.

County councillor Susie Charles said: "Relatively few schools in Lancashire use this particular product but our priority is to provide absolute assurance that meals contain what the label says – having discovered this one doesn't, we have no hesitation in removing it from menus."

Other local authorities and catering companies who provide school food are understood to be undertaking similar tests but official testing of public sector caterers are not due until later int he spring.

The British Hospitality Association which represents many of the major providers of meals to schools said its members were testing their minced beef products in agreement with the Food Standards Agency (FSA) and government, although they said they were still waiting for the "vast majority" of results to come through due to a backlog at the testing laboritories.

The Department of Health said it had written to NHS providers urging them to test all relevant food and expected the results to be made public next week.

"It's unacceptable that anyone should have been eating meat that's not what it says on the label," said a spokesman. "However, we would like to reassure patients that even if horsemeat is found in hospital food supplies there is nothing to suggest a safety risk to people who may have eaten the products."

Catherine Brown, FSA chief executive, said the results published on Friday following tests carried out by food retailers confirmed the "overwhelming majority of beef products in this country do not contain horse meat."

But the results only account for about a quarter of all the products eaten by consumers and did not look for trace contamination, a decision described as "pragmatic" by the FSA. The results also did not include the positive tests uncovered by Whitbread and Compass. "Clearly, this is a fast changing picture," said Brown, who said more test results would be revealed next Friday.

Mark Woolfe, who led the FSA's surveillance for a decade up to 2009 said the testing did not get to the root of the scandal because the problems in the supply chain that led to the contamination in the UK were still largely unknown. "The FSA and the industry have been remarkably silent on what went wrong in the supply chain of the companies that were found right at the start of the investigation in Ireland," he told the Guardian. "They have had four weeks to find out. Investigating the supply chain is a much more efficient way to solve the problem than end product testing."

Last night the environment secretary Owen Paterson said the "food businesses" still had a lot of work to do. "They need to move quickly to complete these tests and they need to show their customers they've taken the right steps to make sure this doesn't happen again."

But Mary Creagh, Labour's shadow environment secretary, said the government had repeatedly failed to get on top of the situation.

"Ministers have got to stop hiding behind the retailers and food industry and take decisive action to get a grip on this scandal now. They should order the FSA to speed up its testing."


http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2013/feb/15/horsemeat-scandal-school-dinners-hospital-meals

 

Could this be the result of stringent regulations on how much fat is allowed? Horse meat typically very low in fat...Could it be they were trying to meet some government standard? 100 grams of beef has 13 grams of fat, 100 grams of horse meat has 6 grams of fat. Maybe they should take a tip from the U.S. and use finely textured beef instead...95% fat free.

Don't know about cost though...I used to raise horses and by my calculation, if I were to have sold one for food, I'd have to charge upwards of $35 a pound to just START to recoup my expenditures on that hay burner. LOL

 

i think they're using old horses.

 

My previous post cited a company called À la Table de Spanghero as being, if not central to it all, but a very key player.

Let us look at them a bit closer, see who, what, they are, and what their previous is, okay?


À la Table de Spanghero, commonly known as Spanghero, is a French meat processing company based in Castelnaudary, Aude. Products include sausages, cassoulet, minced meat, hamburgers, and ready meals. The Lur Berri cooperative owns 99% of the company through its holding Poujol

In 2009 the Lur Berri cooperative acquired a 90% stake in Spanghero through its holding Poujol

In 2011 the company name was changed to À la Table de Spanghero, and by June 2012 executives Laurent, David and Jean-Marc Spanghero had all left the company.

February 2013, Lur Berri owned 99% of Spanghero.

Scandals

In June 2011 the company had to withdraw 12 tonnes of mince because of suspected contamination by E.coli, which causes potentially fatal food poisoning

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/À_la_Table_de_Spanghero

 

Lur Berri

http://www.lurberri.fr/default.aspx

From the 1980s, the cooperative grew quickly. It moved into livestock production (cattle, sheep, pigs and poultry) and acquired a number of cereal wholesalers: Bonnut, Garlin, Espoey, Artix, Clermont, and Coarraze-Nay. The group Lur Berri is active in the Pyrénées-Atlantiques, Landes, Hautes-Pyrénées, and most recently, the Tarn-et-Garonne.

On 14 February 2013, the French government confirmed that Spanghero, a French prepared meat producer of which Lur Berri owns 99%, knowingly sold horse meat labelled as beef in the 2013 meat adulteration scandal, and that company's license was suspended while investigations continued.

 

That's actually a very good point. There's a number of farms around where I live (cheap land, y'know) and horses are a lot more expensive as far as a return on meat is concerned. Is there a huge cow shortage over there? It would seem so if they;re resorting to using horses.

 

I'll take horse over ammonium hydroxide.

 

I guess the food in Europe is a shear and utter disgrace!

 

From all the research I have done, it is MUCH worse in the US.

 

Personally, I grow a lot of my own food.

I don't do it because it is more healthy I do it because it saves money and I like doing it.
We still buy bread and milk...usually whole grain bread because I like the taste...and other items...pasta and such.

We eat very well but it is a lot of work...I woke up today with pigs in my yard and spent all day in the wind fixing the pen....and it cost me $26.00!!!

 

I'm in the U.S., the meat 'contamination' (as they are calling it) is 'over there.' Speaking 'frankly' there is a certain country 'over there' that does eat horse meat. One wonders if that isn't the 'underground' distributor for the stuff. Just sayin....

 

One day I'm looking out over the front pasture and there way in the distance I see my neighbor's horse laying by the fence. It had all 4 feet stuck in his (ridiculous) field fence!! Grabbed some fencing pliers/cutters and had an interesting day.....LOL

 

Now I know why they sell no climb horse fence! Did you stop and think how in the world???

 

Yeah, same here. I'm not in Canada atm, if that's what you're getting at.

 

Those fences (field fences like my neighbor's) have a habit of being trampled down at the bottom by horses reaching over to get grass on the other side. After a while there is maybe 6 inches laying flat. A horse can get tangled in it and (of course) panic. I think that's what happened. Had to 'surgically' cut the dang thing out. Then chase it with a bucket of oats.

 

I was posting about the meat 'contamination' in Europe.

 

---Prescription drugs pass through the body and are excreted chemically unchanged. They are finding fish exhibit side effects related of drugs that have ended up in bodies of water through the distribution of human waste. It will be interesting to see what this entails as more research is conducted.

---Edit: Posting this as simply "food four thought". Not trying to stir up a debate.

 

From what i heard on RFDTV horse meat was banned in 2009 and a lot of people just let their horses loose and the processers closed down.
The ban was lifted in 2012 and the reasoning was that it was more humane to slaughter the horses than let them starve or suffer illness from being abandoned.

So some of that horse meat could be coming from the U.S. and even if it isn't some shill will end up blaiming it on us.

 

This is a great thread!

There is a great documentary titled Food Inc. (U.S.) that I think every consumer in the United States should watch. Here's the trailer:

[video=youtube;5eKYyD14d_0]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5eKYyD14d_0[/video]

 

have you ever tried cleaning a window with a horse? horses don't completely evaporate or kill the pathogens that might kill you.

 

Yeah, but I'm sure they taste better.

 

how are you going to discern that? animal feed is grown in ammonia fertilzer...as is human food.

 

Methylmercury in fish has been found to come from natural sources according to a peer-reviewed Environmental Science & Technology study. Shell fish have the highest quantities.