Jeb Bush Is The Only Candidate Who Can Beat Hillary Clinton In 2016!

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  1. RtWngaFraud

    RtWngaFraud Banned

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    I would hope to God America has learned and had quite enough of the Bush regime. I would HOPE.
     
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    Should the Republican party decide to run Jeb.....it is likely to signify an end.

    He would lose the election, and the downward spiral would speed up ....we cannot afford such stupidity.
     
  3. gregdavidson

    gregdavidson New Member

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    LOL. You're clueless man......
     
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    Jeb Bush has a better chance than Rubio. The only downside is him name!
     
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    I wonder why the Repugs need to start campaigning THREE years before the election....will it take them that long to find a decent candidate? :)
     
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    What will America look like after four more years of Obama's Jihad on American exceptionalism. Imam Barry Jr. wants America to be punished for its greed and Little Barry Jr.will keep his pathetic hissy-fit presidency on full force of pitting American v American. Obama is a ego-driven narcissist from the ACORN Marxist Communist street thug organization.
    To predict what will be happening in America in 2016 is a stretch.Hillary will run- she is a died in the wool leftist and she will continue the Obama-fair-share Lunacy. The Republican party is useless, its filled with progressive idiots like McCain-The Conservative party will merge with the Libertarian party and nominate a candidate like Rand Paul-Dr. Carson type ideology, the old dogs in the Republican Party are about to be Euthanized.
    Thank God.
     
  7. AndrogynousMale

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    While he may be miles ahead of the past two Bush's, the family name has pretty much been tarnished at this point, and it will be a few generations until people view them favorably again.
     
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    What about Nancy? I hear that she's still alive.
     
  9. Dan40

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    The 69 year old H. Clinton won't run.
     
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    What, is that little socialist RINO the only one with a baseball bat?
     
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    Agreed. A true conservative like Reagan, who believes in smaller government.

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  12. Kwigybo

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    People who think the answer for the Republican party is to revert to extreme conservatism are kidding themselves, in my opinion. I think that's a very precise statement of what they shouldn't do. It's out of date and people don't want it. There is of course a very simple way of thinking about this. How about we respond to the wants of the majority of Americans, insofar as these wants are financially and morally viable? Unfortunately asking or even hinting at such a question, in a sincere and genuine context is like committing political suicide. But it's interesting to entertain nonetheless. It'd be a damn sight more productive than digging around for idiotic and, more importantly, inaccurate slanders about socialism this and secret Muslim that.

    1.Produce a health care plan to supplant Obama's. A large majority of Americans want, and have for decades, some form of universal health care. Get with the times. The rest of the developed world does, so why can't the richest nation in the world provide health care for it's citizens? Damn that American exceptionalism. This issue has been a leading concern for a long time. Instead of slagging off Obamacare, which I do not endorse, how about forming a policy that actually does provide proper health care? Anyone who makes a response containing the word socialism is axiomatically disqualified.

    2.Make genuine alterations to a racist legal and judicial system that see a much higher proportion of non-whites convicted and incarcerated. This is not left or right, conservative vs liberal. This is ordinary human morality.

    3.Stop promoting candidates who campaign to get creationism taught in schools. Just stop. Seriously. It's idiotic and betrays a complete ignorance of science and respect for evidence. There is no argument to teach. Again, not a right/left issue, as much as members of both sides would like to make it one. It's ordinary human decency not to introduce superfluous nonsense into the educational system. You don't see anyone advocating alchemy classes do you? people like Michelle Bachman and Sarah Palin are a disgrace to conservatism.

    4.Support the position of the American people and the world community on Israel/Palestine. This has gone on long enough. How about actually supporting the peace process instead of blocking it, as previous US administrations have for decades? One phone call would make more difference than anything Obama has done. Eisenhower to the Israelis in 56 during the Suez crisis - "GT FO or Israeli bonds will be made illegal on the NYSE." And you know what? They got out.

    5.Actually do something of substance about climate change. US emissions as compared to the rest of the world, are disgusting to say the least. This is the way things are going and they're not going to change, unlike the climate. Get on board and start making calculated decisions about how to create jobs and solve the problem. Turn it into an opportunity to help save the environment, which is in dire need, no matter what you think about warming.

    I'm sure I could think of many others but it's 2:20am and I need a durry.
     
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    I'm not going to quote Kwigybo's response, but only because it is very long and entirely too reasonable.

    First, Reagan really did raise taxes on the rich once the Carter Recession had been put to bed and the economy was moving along. Second, Reagan was as pro-science as they get. When I was a Reaganite (Zombie Reagan for President in 2016!), we really did study science so we could rebut the insane claims being made by the Left. The result is programs like the various stealth planes and ships, the Patriot missile and other anti-missile systems.

    A few more items --

    "ObamaCare" is really Newt Gingrich / Heritage Foundation Care. Kwigybo is spot on the money -- the rest of the 1st world has some form of "universal healthcare". The only reason we didn't sooner is because Newt isn't speaker and Bush #43 enjoyed starting wars. That's it.

    And the entire insanity behind "Creationism" is just too much. I'm a Jew. I believe G-d created the entire Universe. But in all my reading of Genesis, I've never -- not once -- seen a detailed explanation in there. One chapter in one book is NOT a science textbook.

    I was a Republican for a really long time, then a Republican-leaning-Independent, then an Independent, then a Democratic-leaning-Independent. There's a lot wrong with the Democratic Party, but after the 2012 election cycle, I've reached the conclusion that there'a lot MORE wrong with the GOP.
     
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    republicans will not run another Bush in 2016, that would be just too easy... for the opposing party

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    If Hillary runs in 2016, nothing the Republicans do will save them. We may not even have a Republican president until 2024 at the earliest.
     
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    sounds legit! im convinced! Jeb! 2016!
     
  17. PatriotNews

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    Nice find from 2013!

    De ja vu.

    Only McCain can win the general election!

    Only Romney can win the general election!

    Like we need another loser RINO.

    Jeb! is a pathetic candidate. He can hang it up now.
     
  18. TomFitz

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    A lot of what you say makes sense.

    Back in 1998 or so, it was conventional wisdom that Jeb would be the Bush brother to go to the White House. Jeb had built a solid career as Florida governor, while his brother George was largely regarded as a likeable dilletante.

    You seem to come from the same view of what constitutes an acceptable candidate as I do. I expect my candidates to be mature, responsible, informed and experienced.

    All of the Democratic candidates qualify under this criteria, so the difference should be whether one shares their political views, or one's confidence in their ability to get something done.

    Ditto for a few GOP candidates, notably Jeb Bush, John Kasich and even the late Sen Lindsey Gramm.

    But the clown car and and the ongoing media circus that feeds off of it has so thoroughly distorted Republican politics specifically, and American politics in general that the normal candidates are being shunted to the side.

    Jeb doesn't seem to have the stomach for this kind of trashy campaign. That's our loss.

    I have not voted for a Republican for President since George HW Bush (twice). I seriously considered John McCain, and even Bush. But after teh South Carolina primary in 2000, there was no way I was going to vote for Bush.
     
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    I had my head shoved up my own ass through most of 2000. What happened in the SC primary that turned you off?
     
  20. Teilhard

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    Jeb certainly hasn't dazzled anybody, has he … ???
     
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    I was on the other side of the country then doing my best impersonation of someone who doesn't give a damn. That's some dirty politics all right... I can understand not wanting to back a party that allowed something like that to happen. It will be interesting to see what type of candidate they produce this time.
     

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