"Tolerant Left" Continues Attacks on Dr.Carson: Blocked From His Own Med. School

I just want to point something out.
QUOTE=Grokmaster;1062456300]I an example of the escalating "Stalinist tactis" of the Left, Dr.Ben Carson has be banned form speaking at his OWN medical school, by GAY ACTIVISTS, upset at his pointing out of the LOGICAL LEGAL PROBLEMS with the "Special Exceptions" gays seek for themselves in marriage rules:

Dr. Ben Carson, GOP Hero, Exiled by His Own Medical School


Ben Carson, the neurosurgeon-turned-conservative-pundit, has accumulated legions of right-leaning fans since he stumped at the National Prayer Breakfast in February and, later, began appearing on Fox News Channel. But after Carson delivered widely condemned comments regarding gay people on Fox this week, a group of students at Johns Hopkins, where Carson has worked since 1977, has successfully stopped him from speaking at the May commencement ceremony of the university's medical school. Carson announced on MSNBC Friday afternoon that he would refrain from speaking because he thought the ceremony should be devoted to students, and not the controversy swirling around him:

http://www.theatlanticwire.com/politics/2013/03/ben-carson-johns-hopkins-graduation/63690/

Apparently, ONLY CONSERVATIVES must be "punished" for drawing the LOGICAL CONCLUSION Carson did, as Sonja Sotomayor MADE THE SAME ARGUMENT, USING POLYGAMISTS and INCESTUOUS RELATIONSHIPS as a means of illustraion...but that's "OK", of course.


"FREE SPEECH" to the Left= FREE to AGREE WITH THEM, ONLY....nauseating.

Heaven forbid he bring up the MEDICAL/PUBLIC HEALTH ISSUES with male homosexuality, huh?[/QUOTE]

 

You're the one making the silly semantic nonsense, or else you just have a poor grasp of our language. The use of "our class" in that sentence does not have the same meaning as if they had written something like, "On behalf of our class, we believe he is an inappropriate choice of speaker at a ceremony intended to celebrate the achievements of our class." The phrase is an adverbial describing the word achievements. It isn't in any way meant to state that the entire class supports this petition.

 

So then we agree, right? The students writing this petition are upset about Carson's comparison of homosexuality to pedophilia and bestiality, not polygamy and incest. Therefore, Sotomayor's comments are not comparable to Carson's, which is why you likely aren't going to see these same students getting all upset with her. She never compared homosexuality to pedophilia and bestiality.

 

Ridiculous. Speaking of wool pulling semantics.

 

Ben Carson is off the liberal plantation. The *******s must condemn that forever.

 

Also from the petition:

".....deeply offensive to a large proportion our student body ...." so says "SEVERAL STUDENTS"....

I knew you wouldn't disappoint with the " fancy dancin" demo; by all means, keep dancing...it's hilarious to watch.

Or are we now calling "several students and some faculty members" a LARGE PROPORTION of the STUDENT BODY?

They have clearly annointed themselves the Spokespeople for Far More than Themselves.

Dance away....

 

Our school system has been infiltrated and destroyed by Liberals... it is the reason why the results are so poor.

 

There is the fact of evolution (life on earth is diverse, allele frequency within populations changes over time), and there is the theory of evolution. Much like there is the fact of gravity (there is an attractive force between all objects in space), and also the theory of gravity. Any more ignorant things you want to say about evolution being a theory, as if that's some kind of black mark on the word?

And, please, do tell us of the wondrous things we've learned about genetics and heredity that make evolution "LESS and LESS likely." Almost every scientist in a biological field would disagree with you.

 

Gay people get so angry and vindictive when others disagree with gay marriage.

We should really stop calling them gay. The word doesn't fit.

 

I don't know; we'd have to see exactly how many students have signed the petition, not simply how many were involved in writing it up. Either way, such language is extremely subjective. How do we define large? Everyone may have very different opinions about that. That being said, there is no language that explicitly states that this is an opinion shared by the entire graduating class.

 

by William Bigelo
31 Mar 2013

A caller from Willowbrook, New York identifying himself as a Muslim on the New York 1 program "The Call," stated that gays in the United States should be beheaded because sharia law should be implemented. The heated conversation went like this:

Host: Hi, Chris.

Chris: Hi. My opinion is something you’re not going to agree with.

Host: That’s okay.

Chris: I'm Muslim and I believe 110 percent in Sharia law. Sharia law needs to be implemented in the United States because that's the only way this deviant lifestyle will be corrected. You know what happens in Saudi Arabia and other Islamic countries to the gay people, correct?

Host: Mm-hmm. I don’t agree with it

Chris: They are beheaded, and that I believe --I'm going to fight as hard as I can with all of my brothers and sisters to make Sharia law in the United States.

Host: So people should be beheaded for being gay? I mean, c’mon, this is America!

Chris: This is a sin! No, you don’t like --you’re anti-Muslims?

Host: I’m not anti-Muslims, but—

Chris: You are anti-Muslims if you’re saying that about my religion.

Host: I didn’t say that. I’m saying about America.

Chris: About my religion? No. In America? We’re Americans too.

Host: You really believe people should be beheaded?

Chris: Yes, of course. Government should do that.

Host: So you have no friends that are gay, Chris?

Chris: No, I don’t.

Host: Okay, And if you did—

Chris: I don’t choose to associate with those people. No, no. That lifestyle is deviant, and it’s against Islam.

Host: That’s fine –

Chris: And sharia should come to the United States, obviously --

Host: --to feel that way but to believe that they should be beheaded is a little extreme, don’t you think?

Chris: --but you’re going to call the whole kingdom of Saudi Arabia extreme?

Host: I’m just saying beheading people for their sexual preference is extreme. Those are my words.

Chris: No, but you’re against Muslim countries then. You’re against Islam.

Host: I’m not against Islam. There are people who are Islam—Islamic in America

Chris: Do you know the law? Do you know sharia law?

Host: Do I? No, I was raised Catholic.

Chris: Maybe you should look into sharia and look into the countries that have sharia and what the penalty is for being gay.


Read more:
http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Govern...-To-NY-Talk-Show-Says-Gays-Should-Be-Beheaded

 

The more I read through this read, the harder it is for me to find any fault with anyone. Dr. Carson voiced his opinions on homosexuality, which is perfectly within his right. Some students, offended by his opinions, asked that he not be allowed to speak at their graduation ceremony, also perfectly within their right. The university officially sided with Carson, seeing no reason why his personal opinions should disallow his speech (also perfectly within their right), effectively over-ruling the petition, but Dr. Carson, recognizing that graduation is about the students, not the staff, very graciously agreed to comply with the petition, in spite of the fact that he didn't really have to. I can't really find any reason to fault any party in this situation.

 

"Some students" presumed to speak for MORE than themselves, and sought Carson's removal as the commencement speaker , FOR EVERYONE ELSE.

Why do Leftninnies ALWAYS feel the need to DICTATE what everyone else must think/believe? Why do they insists that only THEIR VIEW is "acceptable"?

IGNORANCE + ARROGANCE, is why.

 

Nobody's dictating anything. Some students wrote up a petition against Carson's speech; they asked others to sign it if they also agree. No one is being forced to do anything. No threats have been made. No vandalism has been committed. Nothing dictatorial has been done. the school didn't agree with the students, but Carson made a very gracious decision of his own free will.

Are you suggesting students shouldn't have the right to speak out against rhetoric they found offensive? What if the situation were reversed? Let's say a teacher made an insulting comment about Christians, and some religious students wrote a petition asking he not be allowed to speak at their graduation? Would you find that equally dictatorial? Intolerant? Would you start a thread outraged about how Christian students are trying to silence people who don't support their views? Or would you just quietly keep to yourself on the issue...maybe even applaud them a little for their stand against bigotry?

 

So, is the commencement for Ben Carson...or the students?


And if it's just "some students" ...then the "vast majority" who want to hear Carson could drown them out with a counter-petition???

 

They have assumed the authority to speak for OTHERS, and DELIBERATELY posted their diatribe on FRIDAY, so that anyone other students would not havr a chance to CHALLENGE IT, or even FIND OUT about it, until TODAY,at the earliest.

The only "bigotry" in this case are the racial epithets ALREADY being hurled at Dr.Carson, for DARING to support traditional marriage.

The BIGOTRY is from the LEFT, per usual, where NO ONE is ALLOWED to DISAGREE with their DEPRAVITY.

 

Lol, the whole progrssive/leftist movement is a lie.

 

Actually quite true. Believing that evolution is not real is now as absurd as believing that diseases are caused by foul gases from the earth or are because of a persons moral failings.

Obsession? I didn't start the thread or the topic- I am just pointing out the absurd hystrionics of those who act like this is a particularly unusual situation- I figure those of you are either really, really young or just completely blinded by your extreme rightwing views.

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/01/29/nyregion/29choate.html?_r=0
Rove Passes Up Commencement Speech at Choate After the Students Object

http://www.commonwealmagazine.org/blog/?p=18966
Some students and faculty at Fordham have protested, circulating petitions arguing that Brennan (who served as chief of staff to CIA director George Tenet under President George W. Bush) is tied to War on Terror policies including the use of torture in ways that clearly violate the teachings of the church and the values of a Jesuit institution

Oh here is one that should warm the hearts of conservatives:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/842826/posts
Some University of Washington Tacoma students are upset that the lawyer who successfully argued Roe v. Wade before the U.S. Supreme Court will be this year's commencement speaker.

"I don't want my family remembering my commencement as, 'Oh, the abortion lady spoke,' " added senior Christy Donahue.


Loeffler said she objects to the platform the commencement address will give to Romney's Mormon religion.
http://www.timesdispatch.com/archiv...cle_a84b8ea8-34a2-52c5-b507-47853c2352ea.html
"My objection is religious. It's not political," she said. "Liberty trained us that Mormonism is a cult."

I guess my moderate views and greater experience just enables me to recognize that objecting to a commencement speaker because of his personal statements is not exactly a shocking event, nor is it confined to the 'left'- but if you are still in doubt, I can find more examples.....

 

What a creative use of CAPS! You must be an advanced internet poster!

Meanwhile- why wouldn't anyone be allowed to comment over the weekend about a petition posted on Facebook?

 

But such a moderate view doesn't serve to inflame people or push an extremist point of view.

However, I agree completely with you. Frankly Dr. Carson and the students both have a right to their opinions, and I think both have spoken calmly and politely.

 

Hmmm, never seen that argument before.

 

Becaue only people loggin onto the LeftninnyStudent Group Facebook page would see it.

Der....guess what..MANY, MANY students in MED SCHOOL are NOT "LEFTNINNIES"..and I'll wager the majority of students at Johns Hopkins aren't even aware of the existence of said Facebook page.

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And continue to be utterly incapable of logically defeating it, as even SONJA SOTOMAYOR admits.

 

Believing evolution in not true is nothing more than acknowledging the vast increase in knowledge of GENETICS, and HOW TRAITS are REALLY passed on, form generation to generation, as opposed to the fantasy "saw high food;wanted wings-grew wings" nonsense of evolutionists.

None of the examples you cite claim to speak for the a "large proportion of the student body", and did they HIDE their attack over the weekend?

Except that:


'Smith announced Weddington would be the commencement speaker the day before the Jan. 22 anniversary of the Roe v. Wade decision. But he said he the timing was a coincidence and that he did not intend it to be an endorsement of Weddington's views. "

Yeah...right. They hired her in AUGUST. A "coincidence"; sure.

Plus...where's the PETITION, CALLING FOR HER REMOVAL? Der...

Yeah...that's "the same".

Only the ELFT seeks to SILENCE,as your OWN LINKS prove.

Nice, FAILED, desperate attempt to equivocate ...

 

Well, this is all just your interpretation of the situation, but of course your article came out days ago, and have been challenging it for the last 24 hours, so I guess that theory is pretty bogus.

No answer to any of my hypotheticals?

 

Article was published THRUSDAY NIGHT, after 8PM. That is, for all intents and purposes, Friday.

We won't know about the FULL impact until, probably tomorrow , or Wednesday, as far as any ongoing student reaction, would be my guess, based on the timetable of the inititial event reaching news sources.