Why austerity in Britain is a scam.

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  1. Jack Napier

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    Oh boy, do the parasites high up sure love a buzzword to suit a situ. Usually they like something that tends to soften the true intent, for instance, for 'austerity measures', read 'we shall make you poor to aid the rich'. They just say it often enough, make it sound complex enough, and get enough 'respected' news anchors to repeat the term, over and over, roll in the 'respected economist', to make it all sound sort of plausible, and due to all of this, not enough people stay switched on to the basic and simple fact that we are being scammed.

    Britain is not a poor country. It may well be the case that (due to bastards), we do not have the industries we could once boast, but there is PLENTY money in this nation, public money btw, indeed, I would go as far as to say that there is enough money to ensure that all the usual social ills and needs could comfortably be met, and the lives of people generally made more prosperous, and simply by way of NOT taking what is OUR money, and crapping it on that which we neither asked for, or often even want.

    In the last few days alone, we have wasted ten mill sterling on burying a long retired PM, that had had a good life, died at an old age, and had plenty of money to pay for her own private funeral.

    We have had Cameron pledging £15mill to fund a dedicated museum to this now dead PM.

    And now today, we have this news of MILLIONS more being wasted, on some stupid exercise (see below).

    That is £30mill + right there, and I have not even got warm.

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    UK expenses on Ecuadorian embassy surveillance ‘utterly absurd’

    By spending $4.5 million on ensuring a whistleblower does not escape from an embassy, Britain has overstepped the bounds of common sense, according to Julian Assange, who does not believe the 2015 UK election will bring any change to his fate.

    Assange believes his being trapped in the Ecuadorian Embassy is the result of the UK’s unwillingness to offend the US. And that sentiment is unlikely to disappear even if the ruling party is switched in Britain following the country’s 2015 election.

    The Australian government taskforce against WikiLeaks is also a bow to the United States, according to the organization’s founder, who stresses there’s no single reason for persecuting the organization in a country it never leaked anything about. Australian officials meanwhile publicly announced they are looking for ways to cancel the WikiLeaks editor-in-chief’s passport – something extremely rare – last done to the Australian journalist Wilfred Burchett in the 1970s.

    Assange believes this approach is “symptomatic of corruption in Canberra", which he describes as corruption of purpose, when politicians do not represent the people, but other interests instead.

    He offers his newborn political party as an alternative. In an interview with RT Assange says that as long as the WikiLeaks party has candidates running for the Senate, other participants of the election race have to “shift ground” to remain competitive, even though breaking into Australian politics from an Ecuadorian embassy in London is quite a challenging task.

    http://rt.com/news/assange-wikileaks-australia-britain-190/
     
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    Austerity is the political establishments' ideological justification for redistributing increasing amounts of the wealth created by the masses into the hands of their corporate paymasters. It's as simple as that.
     
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    Cameron gave the whole "we all gotta tighten our belts" type comment on the same day he attended a Torrie banquet where they enjoyed their caviar and thousands of quid bottles of champagne.
     
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    Michael Howard was at it again saying something similar on the BBCs QT programme. Next time I hear one of these parasites utter the words, "We're all in it together" or We've all got to all tighten our belts", I'm going to throw something heavy at my TV screen.
     
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    How do normal people, that can relate to other normal people, not get into high office? It must be the system that holds them back, imo, to be a 'politician', there are too many fences. I would be happy to see someone fast tracked into the talent pool, even if he had no degree in politics, so long as what he was saying made sense, was understood by the public, and had a bit of something to it.

    Just look at the cabinet. They are all millionaires, many times over, not self made men either, many of them.

    There is just no way men of that type can relate to those who are not of that type, even if they do not set out to be bad, they cannot do anything other than serve and assist those they have grown up as part of their world.

    But since there are far more people like you and me, than there are people like them, how is it that it's people like them that people like us have to choose from?

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    I cannot abide that man.
     
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    Here is another thing.

    The NHS here is doomed, limping along, a pale shadow of it's reputation of old.

    Take the biggest hospital in my city.

    They built it new, a number of years ago, only we do not own the building, or anything actually, it is owned by some private company, who, by the time the contract is up, we will have paid billions to. Yet we will not own one flake of paint of it, and they can technically decide to not even renew the contract!

    This was something called PFI or some such, can't remember, but basically it is like renting your PC for £200 a week, when you can buy one for that.

    Then we have the theatre ward scandal. The company that are (also private) meant to maintain the hygiene side, have had instances of late of theatres being put out of operation, due to dead pigeons in air vents, and so on. This has a natural negative effect on the smooth running of the hospital.

    Whatever arse negotiated the contract, the deal is that for every day the theatre is out of operation, the private company are fined £24.50.

    Who went into these negotiations, a bloody monkey?
     
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    Funny how the politicians rack up huge debts, telling us not to worry about anything, that it is good for the economy, and then a decade or two later they suddenly turn around and tell us we need austerity.

    I will tell you what type of austerity we need: We need to stop spending more money than we collect in taxes. NO MORE DEBT !!

    Debt is a tool used to steal from taxpayers and benefit a select few. What stupid voters on the left do not seem to be able to understand is that the cuts in the future will have to be greater than the free money now, to pay all the compounding interest to the wealthy investors whom the government is indebted to.
     
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    If there is one thing government does well, it's taking away & wasting the meagre wealth of working people.

    Australian officials meanwhile publicly announced they are looking for ways to cancel the WikiLeaks editor-in-chief’s passport – something extremely rare – last done to the Australian journalist Wilfred Burchett in the 1970s.

    Isn't that a hoot? If there's one thing bureaucrats hate, it's journalists. They like faux journalists who parrot the right things, but they positively abhor an investigative journalist, which is what Julian Assange and others involved in Wikileaks actually are.

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    Step one: Stop paying the taxes. They're not going to change their spending or stop taxing you out of the goodness of their hearts, nor indeed for any reason whatever.
     
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    On behalf of the US, I say to the UK: Do whatever you want as far as Assange. We won't be offended, I promise. Mostly because we barely remember Assange one way or the other.

    Hasn't he finished digging the tunnel yet?
     
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    Yeah, lol. By "we" he really means "you".

    Kind of like here in America. When the President says "we all have to do our part", it usually means the working classes paying for the debts and adventures of the rich and famous.
     
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    As proven recently austerity is a scam everywhere. We are suppose to tighten our belts so our money will go to private henge funds .
    The funny part is that they based this European tragedy on a single paper .

    The funeral costs are okay , they paid British working people who will circulate all that money in the British economy and after all there are taxes.
    I would like to know who gets paid 4.5m to watch Ecuadorian embassy's door.
     
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    It's the same story with austerity everywhere. Look at countries like Greece and Ireland. They are both struggling with immense austerity but are still sending money and aid to Africa. That's happening while children are going hungry in Greek schools.
     
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    Investigative journalist George Monbiot wrote about the implications of PFI a decade ago and very few listened. People are listening now as the effects of it are increasingly being felt up and down the country. PFI, whose financial implications were far more serious than the MPs expenses scandal, was conveniently buried in the media at that time. The purpose was to deflect attention and journalistic scrutiny away from the PFI issue which was, and still is in some circles, regarded as somewhat of an irrelevant and 'stuffy' issue suitable for accountants only. In reality, PFI is arguably THE greatest of all the financial scandals. The UK tax-paying public are literally being scammed of billions of pounds which puts something like the MPs expenses issue into the shade.
     
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    Evidently the police and whoever else is doing the watching.

    Here's the thing - it is on going. What a total waste of money. What are they planning to do if he remains there for another year, is this figure going to double, keep rising, no end in sight?

    Not sure how you can think the funeral costs were 'okay'. I do not.

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    Evidently the police and whoever else is doing the watching.

    Here's the thing - it is on going. What a total waste of money. What are they planning to do if he remains there for another year, is this figure going to double, keep rising, no end in sight?

    Not sure how you can think the funeral costs were 'okay'. I do not.
     
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    So police get paid and what they do with those money, stash them in the Cayman islands ?
    No , they go buy British goods and services keeping the cash in circulation.
    In the funeral a British agency was paid to take care of it and the employees will too spend that money in the British economy.
    Government spending creates growth .
    "Saving" money means paying the loan sharks
     
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    Great.

    In that case, let's throw more public money away, since some of it will be spent in the pub.
     
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    You start a thread against austerity and then you proceed defending it , austerity is about public money getting out of the equation .
    Yes it is better to spend money in a pub or renting the services of prostitutes in bunga bunga parties rather than using them to pay international henge funds.
     
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    I don't feel you are following the logic, but no matter, I am too tired to go into it.
     
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    Austerity is an ideological buzzword used by politicians to justify draconian cuts to welfare and the ongoing retrenchment of the public sector. The intention is to try and convince us all that we are somehow responsible for financial crisis that was in truth caused by the actions of their paymasters, the bankers and the neoliberal free market principles that underpinned these actions.

    The programme of savage cuts to welfare and public sector retrenchment hasn't worked in reducing debt and boosting the economy and, indeed, was never intended to work. Make no mistake about it, their programme of austerity amounts to class warfare in that it is directly intended as an attack on the working class.

    Savage cuts create unemployment. Higher unemployment means less money circulating in the economy. With less money circulating in the economy, people have less money to spend on goods and services. This in turn creates more unemployment leading to more bankruptcies and yet more unemployment and the cycle continues.

    Higher rates of unemployment mean less tax revenues are generated. Less tax revenues means greater debt. Greater debt is then used as an ideological argument to cut welfare and retrench the public sector even more. And so the cycle continues.

    The way out of this impasse, is to stimulate the economy through a public sector-led programme of growth and public infrastructural works. In London, where I live, there exists is a massive housing shortage alongside a situation whereby hundreds of thousands of construction workers languish idle on the dole.

    It makes sense to put these unemployed construction workers to work by building affordable homes for the homeless to live in. But an increase in housing supply reduces demand in the private rented sector.

    Who are the millionaires who rent out their second, third, fourth, fifth and in some cases sixth and seventh houses? You've guessed it folks, it's the politicians and their friends in the city. Higher demand, means higher rents. The average private rent in London is about £26,000 a year. So that means a worker needs to earn about 35,000 before deductions just to be able to afford the rent. The average wage is £26,000. So the shortfall is met by housing benefit. So yet again, the taxpayer subsidizes the rich.
     

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