American Democracy in Shambles ,Capitialism or Democracy take your choice!

The only Political party that defends the Traditions of American Democracy ,against its destruction by the most RIGHT-WING Government in US History is the SEP[US].

Shut down of Boston ,is Military Occupation by the Obama Government of its own people .

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American democracy in shambles

22 April 2013

With the imposition of a state of siege in Boston, a historical threshold has been crossed. For the first time ever, a major American city has been placed under the equivalent of martial law. The already frayed veneer of a stable democracy based on constitutional principles is in shreds.
On Monday, April 15, two bombs exploded near the finish line of the Boston Marathon in the city’s center. Three people were killed and over 170 were injured, some seriously. This was a criminal act with tragic consequences. But violence, including acts of mass homicide and disasters resulting in major loss of life, is a regular feature of American society. Even as the events in Boston were unfolding, a factory explosion in Texas, to all appearances linked to safety hazards, took far more lives than the bombs detonated at the end of the marathon.
There is no precedent for the massive mobilization of military, police and intelligence forces carried out April 19 in Boston and its environs, which encompass more than 1 million people. Thousands of heavily armed police and National Guard troops occupied the streets, backed up by machine gun-mounted armored vehicles, Humvees and Black Hawk helicopters. As the WSWS noted, the scene resembled the US occupation of Baghdad.
The people were told to remain indoors while police, with automatic weapons drawn, conducted warrantless house-to-house searches. Some of those who strayed out of doors were surrounded by police and ordered to go home. The mass transit system was shut down; passenger train service along the northeastern corridor was halted; businesses, universities and other public facilities were closed.
Boston—the cradle of the American Revolution, one of the most liberal cities in one of the most liberal states in the US, the country’s premier center of higher education—was turned into an armed camp. This staggering mobilization of federal, state and local police power was deployed to track down a 19-year-old youth.
So far, there has been no protest from within the political or media establishment to the lockdown.
Following the capture of alleged bomber Dzhokhar Tsarnaev, President Obama issued a late-night statement from the White House in which he stressed the role of his administration in the police-state mobilization, boasting that he had “directed the full resources of the federal government…to increase security as needed.” Ignoring the presumption of innocence, he referred to the captured suspect and his dead brother as “these terrorists.”
Obama’s Justice Department quickly announced that it would not read the suspect his “Miranda right” to remain silent and obtain legal counsel before speaking to police investigators. It would instead question the seriously injured youth “extensively” not just on matters related directly to public safety, but more broadly on “intelligence matters.” This sets a precedent for denying these rights to anyone arrested under antiterrorism statutes, which, under Obama, has already included political dissidents such as Occupy Wall Street and anti-NATO protesters.
Encouraged by the police-military mobilization, Republican senators Lindsey Graham and John McCain and New York Congressman Peter King, all of whom have close ties to the military and intelligence agencies, demanded that Tsarnaev be declared an enemy combatant and turned over to the military.
The events in Boston have laid bare the modus operandi for the establishment of dictatorial forms of rule in the US. One or another violent act carried out by disoriented or disaffected individuals, perhaps with the help of elements within the state, is declared a terrorist event. A state of siege is imposed suspending democratic rights and establishing military-police control.
So deeply implicated are all of the organs of the state in these plans that little in the outer trappings of political life would have to be changed. It would not be necessary to overthrow the president or shut down Congress. These institutions would readily play their assigned role, and the imposition of a military dictatorship would be sanctioned by the US Supreme Court.
The media would simply continue to do what it normally does—functioning as a de facto arm of the state and providing the necessary pretexts, while whipping up the requisite fear and panic within the public.
The very fact that the entire establishment agrees that democratic norms cannot be maintained in the face of violence by a handful of people testifies to the advanced stage of the breakdown of American democracy.
So disproportionate was the scale of the response to the actual level of the threat that the conclusion cannot be avoided that the Boston bombings were the pretext for, not the cause of, the lockdown. The police-state mobilization was the culmination of more than a decade of intensive planning and the ceaseless buildup of the repressive forces of the state since 9/11, carried out under the cover of the “war on terror.”
The operation is not an expression of strength or confidence on the part of the American ruling class. On the contrary, it reflects the near panic of the corporate-financial elite in the face of mounting social discontent, exacerbated by extreme nervousness over the precarious state of global financial markets. What haunts the ruling class is not the fear of a terrorist attack, but dread of a new financial collapse, with the likely consequence of massive social upheavals.
The breakdown of American democracy has profound causes, the first of which is the staggering level of social inequality. Democracy cannot be maintained when the richest 5 percent of the population controls over 60 percent of the wealth. In the moves to police-military dictatorship, the forms of rule are coming into conformance with the underlying social reality of American capitalism.
Another fundamental cause of the crisis of democracy is the eruption of US militarism. The power of the military/intelligence apparatus has grown immensely, particularly since the end of the Soviet Union, as the American ruling class has turned to military aggression as a means of offsetting the decline in its global economic position. The professional military, segregated from society at large and hostile to it, has acquired ever-greater influence over political affairs and civilian authority. As always, imperialist war is incompatible with democracy.
American liberalism as a distinct political tendency has ceased to exist. The lining up of the Democratic Party behind the “war on terror,” and the external aggression and internal repression carried out in its name, has made clear that there is no section of the ruling elite that will defend democratic rights. The Obama administration, which has expanded the right-wing, antidemocratic policies of the Bush administration, is without question the most reactionary in US history.
As always, the filthiest role is played by the media and its leading personnel. From day one, they turned the airwaves into a continual rumor mill, making one unsubstantiated claim after another in an effort to sow fear and panic and justify the police-state measures being taken. They readily agreed to self-censor their reports in accordance with the demands of the police agencies. As CNN anchor Chris Cuomo, son of the former Democratic governor of New York and brother of the state’s current governor, told viewers, “We’ve only been showing the feeds that authorities are comfortable with.”
The media seeks to create an aura of popular support for martial law-type measures. But the initial confusion will give way to mounting disquiet. The abrupt shift in the forms of rule will create opposition in the population, above all in the working class.
The appropriate conclusions need to be drawn. Social inequality and war—the inevitable outcome of capitalism—are incompatible with democracy. One or the other—capitalism or democracy—must go. That is the issue confronting the working class.
Barry Grey


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Boston becomes Baghdad ,the response to the American Working Class as it is about to come into struggle by the US Government ,will be no different then its response in the Nations it has occupied .


Anyone that thinks democracy in America can be defended within the system itself is DELUSIONAL!


No more fence sitting the die has been cast .

 

Don't be fooled.

American democracy is . . . An oxymoron

 

yes as far as the capitialist and their government are concerned ,but the beating heart of democracy was always the people as comprised in classes ,and the holder of the Flame of Freedom,Equality ,Liberty is the Working Class,circa 2013 not 1776!

137years of history has not flowed without changing the nature of Democracy!

Let those of wealth and priviledge reject and disdain the Democratic Tradition ,for the new and more perfect form arisies ,that being Working Class democracy and the Government of the Working Class.

For Democracy demands the return of the wealth that they have stolen from the honest hard labour of the Masses,and the original occupiers and custodians of the Land .

For Government of the people by the people for the people ,transform into what it is today ,government of the Working Class for the Working class by the Working Class.

Everything Changes and transforms into something else.

 

More on the same theme and a few Questions to the Go0vernment of Capitialists and their hangeroners.

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[h=2]Unanswered questions in Boston bombings[/h][h=5]By Bill Van Auken
22 April 2013[/h]The Boston Marathon bombings last week, which killed three and wounded over 170, were seized on to implement a far-reaching attack on democratic rights, including a police lockdown of an entire city. As with previous incidents, much remains unknown, including the motive of those who allegedly carried it out, whether others were involved, and what connection the FBI and other government agencies had to them.
In a televised statement immediately after the capture of 19-year-old Dzhokhar Tsarnaev, the surviving suspect in the bombings, President Barack Obama told the American public: “Obviously, tonight there are still many unanswered questions. Among them, why did young men who grew up and studied here, as part of our communities and our country, resort to such violence? How did they plan and carry out these attacks, and did they receive any help?”
However, it is the government that has released very little information about what it knows. Moreover, the Obama administration has decreed that Dzhokhar will be denied his Miranda rights, allowing CIA, FBI and military interrogators to question him without the presence of an attorney, thereby further limiting any information surfacing outside of what is vetted by the government and its intelligence agencies.
In addition to the questions raised by Obama, there are a number of others that bear serious scrutiny.

• How did the two brothers obtain the explosives used in the bombings?
• What relationship existed between the Tsarnaev brothers and the FBI and other US intelligence agencies?
• Did US authorities have any knowledge about the Boston bombing plot before it was executed?
• What role did US policy in relation to Russia and the separatist movements in Chechnya and other parts of the North Caucasus play in the US government’s attitude toward the Tsarnaevs?

While much remains murky about these and other issues, one thing is clear: the Boston bombing, like virtually every other major terrorist incident, real or invented, since the September 11, 2001 attacks on New York City and Washington, was carried out by someone who was known to and under surveillance by US intelligence agencies.
There have been increasing questions raised concerning the FBI’s handling of a request from a foreign government, presumed to be Russia, that it investigate Tamerlan Tsarnaev on suspicion of involvement in Islamist terrorism.
The request came in advance of a six-month visit that Tamerlan made to Russia beginning in January of last year, during which he stayed with his father in Dagestan and visited Chechnya, where several members of the family live.
In a statement released in the wake of the Boston bombings, the FBI acknowledged that Russian authorities had determined that Tamerlan Tsarnaev was a “follower of radical Islam and a strong believer, and that he had changed drastically since 2010 as he prepared to leave the United States for travel to the country’s region to join unspecified underground groups.”
The FBI said that in response to this request it “checked US government databases and other information to look for such things as derogatory telephone communications, possible use of online sites associated with the promotion of radical activity, associations with other persons of interest, travel history and plans, and education history.”
The statement concluded that the FBI “did not find any terrorism activity, domestic or foreign, and those results were provided to the foreign government in the summer of 2011.”
The Russian media has reported that Russian security services again contacted the FBI about Tamerlan Tsarnaev in November of last year.
Both of the parents of the two suspects have provided accounts of the FBI’s role that contradict the agency’s public statement.
The mother of the two brothers, Zubeidat Tsarnaeva, a naturalized US citizen, told Russia Today that the FBI agents had told her that “Tamerlan was an extremist leader and they were afraid of him. They told me whatever information he is getting, he gets from these extremists’ web sites.”
“It is a setup,” she added. “He was controlled by FBI for three to five years. They knew what my son was doing. They knew what actions and what sites on the Internet he was going… So how could this happen? How could they, they were controlling his every step, and they are telling today that this is a terrorist act.”
In an interview with the Reuters news agency, the young men’s father, Anzor Tsarnaev, said that the FBI had visited the family’s home in Cambridge, Massachusetts at least five times looking for Tamerlan. He said: “They said there were doing preventive work. They were afraid there might be some explosions on the streets of Boston.”
The father said that he had been present at one FBI interrogation in which agents had told his son, “We know what sites you are on, we know where you are calling, we know everything about you. Everything.” Like the mother, he insisted that his sons had been “framed up.”
Russian sources reported that both parents had subsequently been questioned by Russia’s Federal Security Service, after which they cut off further contact with the Western media.
Reports of FBI involvement with Tamerlan Tsarnaev have led to criticism by US lawmakers, including South Carolina Republican Senator Lindsey Graham, who has called for the younger brother to be treated as an “enemy combatant” and turned over to the US military. He said in a Sunday television interview that “the ball was dropped” by the FBI.
There have been no explanations forthcoming about how “the ball was dropped.” And without either of the two suspects or anyone else providing a motive for the bombings, much is unclear.
Among the explanations that have been suggested is one from the Israeli web site Debka, citing “counterterrorism and intelligence sources,” who it said had concluded that the two brothers were “recruited by US intelligence as penetration agents” to gain access to jihadist networks in the Russian Caucasus, but then “turned coat and bit their recruiters.”
It has been widely charged that Washington has offered covert support to Chechen and other Islamist separatists in the Caucasus, who have waged two wars with Russian forces in 1994-1996 and again in 1999.
Chechen fighters have also been reportedly active in the Western-backed Islamist militias fighting to overthrow the regime of Bashar al-Assad in Syria. Videos supporting this war for regime-change were found on Tamerlan Tsarnaev’s YouTube channel, along with other Islamist material. The channel had some 700 subscribers. Moscow Times quoted Russian “intelligence expert” Andrei Soldatov as questioning the FBI’s handling of the case. “He was very open about his beliefs,” he said of Tamerlan. “I’m at a loss as to why the FBI didn’t pay attention to him then.”
A web site backing the Islamist groups in the North Caucasus posted a statement on Sunday denying any link between them and those who carried out the Boston Marathon bombings. “The Caucasus fighters are not waging any military activities against the United States of America,” the Kavkazcenter.com web site said. Servers for the site are located in the US.
A Russian intelligence source also told AFP, “At the moment we have no credible information about the Tsarnaev brothers’ involvement with the Caucasus Emirate movement,” the main Islamist organization in the region. The group has previously claimed responsibility for terrorist attacks such as the bombing of the Moscow airport in January 2011 in which 37 died and bombings of its metro system in 2010, which killed over 40.
As to whether the government had prior knowledge of the Boston bombing plot before last Monday’s explosions at the Marathon finish line, participants in the event have cited what they saw at the time as unusual developments. The coach of the University of Mobile’s cross-country team, Ali Stevenson, told the Alabama media that he found it odd that bomb-sniffing dogs were brought out at both the starting and finish lines.
“They kept making announcements to the participants do not worry, it’s just a training exercise,” he said. He added that he had also observed “law enforcement spotters” on roofs at the start of the race. “Evidently, I don’t believe they were just having a training exercise,” Stevenson said. “I think they must have had some sort of threat or suspicion called in.”
If such prior knowledge did exist, this raises another question. In all but a handful of cases, every major terrorist plot reported in the US over the past decade has been the product of a sting operation organized by the FBI or other police agencies. In almost all of these cases, those arrested and prosecuted for terrorism would never have had the means or even the intention of carrying out such acts without the guiding hand of covert informers and agent provocateurs.
This pattern goes back at least to the 1993 bombing of the World Trade Center, in which a former Egyptian army officer, Emad Salem acting as a paid FBI informant, actually participated in building the bomb, claiming that the original plan had been to substitute harmless powder for the explosives.
Were the Boston bombings the result of such an operation that got out of control? Or did sections of the state know about it and allow it to go forward?
How the Boston Marathon bombing plot unfolded and what motives lay behind it are still not known. Only one thing is certain: whatever the source of this terrorist atrocity, it will be used by the US government as a pretext to escalate militarism abroad and repression at home.


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It's legal and justified in this case, on account of the public safety needed it.

Plus, it was the police, not military.

 

I "heart" the WSWS. they love to call Obama "a capitalist of the highest order" when the Rabid Right has been calling him a "socialist that is destroying America" for years. there's nothing like watching card carrying died in the wool socialists make utter fools out of stupidly misinformed *********s that wouldn't know a REAL socialist if he hit them in their heads with his hammer & cut their throats with his sickle. record DOW & record corporate profits under a "socialist?"

 

well from that position everytime a Murder takes place and essentially what we are looking at is a criminal act,remembering that no evidence or trial has been presented by the government.

And as we are DEMOCRATIC minded people the presumption of innocence applies ,which you of course agree must be extended to ALL citizens .

Oh,even the justice department agrees with that,excuse me but the fully uniformed national guardsmen were Mobilised or do police now go around in full Military Uniform ,and if you could actually stop for 3seconds advancing apology's for the US government much hated everywhere.

and it is usfull in life to have a critical open minded position .

And the COMMAND to stay in doors ,WHY 2 gunmen alledged GUNMEN do not hold a million people hostage unless the people involved have gone total scaredy cats.

Which I think is not the case ,and if it is then the Terrorists have won .

No,we have seen the lock down of a Major city and a set up as pretext to use this level of mobilisation Unheard Of at anytime in the 200 odd year history of the US.


and you just say ok then when the government says Jump ,you say How High!

 

Indeed ,and as far as Liberal Reaction is concerned the politics of middle class dimwits its getting so that the TeaRepublicans are losing the Race to the Far Right of Bourgeois Imperialist Politics.

mobilisation on this scale of military ,Police and who knows who else is in Deed ,representative of the transference of any democratic Tradition to the Socialists.

Wow, seems all that the bourgeois political formations can do is trip over themselves to distance that which they used to Pay lip service to .

In itself that is an Indication of the Fast coming revolutionary tide !

oh and what form must that tide take Circa 2013 ,not 1776????????

Thats right by necessity Socialist Working Class Revolution !

the more traditional flag of the Working Class in Revolution .Is just plain Blood Red ,as the Modern Advanced centres of capitilist Imperialism don't have a peasantry anymore.

 

Dumbest, most ignorant thread so far in 2013.

 

Where to begin? A democracy can choose capitalism? That we are a constitutional republic? Bombs are not guns? Fertilizer plant accidents don't run around causing other fertilizer plant accidents? Fertilizer plant accidents are not possibly parts of cells, able to operate independently on multiple fronts? Police are not military? The National guard exists for this purpose? The lockdown worked? To prevent the citizens from running around in a war zone makes them safe, and the bad guys stand out?


I just can't decide.

 

Capitalism and Democracy cannot coexist, that is why the first world European nations don't adopt it and are socialists by nature.

In America, Capitalism buys Democracy, and Democracy should not be purchased by lobbyists who are rich capitalists. Democracy should be voted by the people without financial interests in profits, but financial interests in generous welfare to make their lives better.

 

Freedom = Democracy

Freedom = Capitalism

 

I think you shouldn't try making this personal.. I'm not trying to say that I encourage a police state, or agree any rights should be taken away, or even deny the shift to a police state that has been underway for years now.

I'm just saying that they are able to use military troops, according to the constitution. If they went too far with it however, then I oppose this. They should do what it takes to ensure safety but not take it too far.

Now these weren't just gunmen, they were gunmen/bombers.

Now whether or not we should be concerned depends on if they keep this up, or leave Boston back to the way it was.

It looks like Boston returned to normal. It's not ongoing is it? If it were ongoing, I would be more concerned.

Your article acted like this was planned out! Ten years in the making!

Why would they plan something to impose martial law and take over, only to immediately STOP? If this were true, Boston would still be occupied, and it would spread.

Now this is nothing new, and you are dead wrong when you say it's unprecedented.

Andrew Jackson was a military general who took over New Orleans during the war of 1812. He had public officials arrested.

600 people were arrested when federal troops imposed martial law in Idaho in 1892. This was also in response to a bombing attack, in which one person died.

Hawaii had all of their civil authorities removed from power, and military leaders took over, during WWII. Not just a city like Boston, the entire state was taken over by the military for years. Japanese were taken prisoner and weren't allowed Habeus Corpus.

15000 army soldiers took over New Orleans in the wake of Hurricane Katrina, but this was because there was no local government left.

There are many cases, including several I haven't mentioned, often the results of worker strikes where clashes occur, or natural disasters. They range in magnitude from a few troops used to deal with a threat and then leave, like in Boston, to full scale military law where even the courts are suspended, a scope FAR beyond what we saw in Boston.

The most notable example is during the Civil War.. Sherman, at the behest of Lincoln, sent union troops into the south where they took over, and imposed martial law on the people. Loads of people were arrested with no habeus corpus, while Sherman murdered women and children, destroyed buildings, burned crops and killed livestock, etc. It was called "total war" and this is the ugly side of the Civil War and Lincoln which your history class may not have told you.

 

Images from Boston reminded me of this movie with Bruce Willis where the army forces martial law in NYC , scary and terrible.
To those who say "police not army" police is militarised enough .

Scare tactics will not work every time the question asked is security or liberty .

OP it will be helpful to make a thread explaining why capitalism can not work without "big" centralised government .

 

I didnt know the Boston police owned black hawk helicopters!

 

My mistake.

 

Socialists are generally ignorant and easily led. This article helps to prove this point.

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The 'terrorists' have won then the USA is in a State of War ?

You have a right to be confused .You are being lied to and steam rolled to accept the unacceptable ,democracy calls this generation to act in its defence.

Oh ,sorry of course George Bush and Cheney's ,'War on Terror' ,OK,that war is now in the Heartland ,and you have been invaded .OK?

Democracy sold a bit short ,not to mention that the totally unthinkable possibility of wait for it .......The Government is Lying ,oh no Governments would never lie and engineer scenario's in establishing its tyranny against the people.

They are in the buisiness of being nice and friendly people.Corruption and criminal activity of governments UNHEARD of in the world of Capitilsim ,no never as we see that the system based on Profit over humans.

No crisis what crisis???

The crisis is that of political leadership and decisions are forced on one if we like it or not.

.No thought paid to Democratic practices ,means anti-democracy .

If 2 individuals can usher in the military and police occupation of a major city then what will be the response to any civil disobedience?

Their is a War going on in the USA ,a war on democratic rights ,and the social position of the Working Class,politically ,ideologically and economically as the printing of credit [money 'just keeps keeping on and ending up in fewer and fewer hands of the mega rich.

Jefferson ,Lincoln and what do you call them ,oh thats right 'the founding fathers of democracy'

In a land of bush and Obama,Wall Street and qualitive easing.

You have the Right to be confused ,that means you have a responsibility to seek the truth ,and that word Truth is the cornerstone of true democracy that no longer resides in any of the Official Government bodies.

Confusion leds to discovery and acting upon the truth!

 

It's like Stupidity "Wack-a-Mole", isn't it?

 

Isn't hindsight awesome? Once you know the terrorists names and faces, and affiliations, you can determine retroactively their level of threat and with a bit of time travel, attempt to demonstrate your point.

 

Gee, must have missed that declaration of martial law every time a criminal act is committed ,2 men with pressure cookers and some black powder ,if that is all thats needed to lock down whole cities well its going to be expensive in the future to run law enforcement .

I think the main point you may have missed is that the government as in 911 ,wasn't some uninformed entity they knew the participants and they let the carnage happen as it serves their needs,yes 911 was known of in its planning stage and could have been avoided ,yes the individuals involved in the Boston incident were known and could have been avoided ,Crickey its not as if the Russians didn't say something now was it .???

Why did the FBI let this thru??

Why didn't the CIA stop it ,they knew them ,maybe they wanted it to happen ,no conspiracy theory just the facts!

They allowed it so are complicit ,responsible as much as the actual individuals involved.

 

The older brother was known to the authorities that is fact ,they even interveiwed him and followed him ,Russia even got on the phone about him ,if that information was acted upon then the act would never had happened.

They knew he was athreat and they decided to allow it to happen.

I haven't seen civil war being decleared yet in the USA ,Has the TeaParty called for sucession from the Union and raised aforce to overthrow the Government and establish an army?

This was a criminal act ,not requiring the response that was unleashed ,the siege mentality the George Bush mentality ,the 'enemy within' mentality and the dropping of all democratic norms at the drop of a hat with the customary whipping up of fear and misinformation by the media and government is the preparation of more brutal and anti-democratic forms of rule.

In the Civil war the very existance of the union was a close run thing.It could have gone the other way.

As well as the fact that Democracy has its own ways and means of dealing with criminal acts ,without whole cities being put in lockdown .

 

I think you're going outside the scope of what I'm saying. Did you not read my response? I'm not saying there's no danger of a police state. There is, but the occurrence in Boston is NOT the main indication. THAT is more or less routine. The more startling things are the new laws and such. Both Bush and Obama have been laying groundwork for consolidation of government.

US troops have been used on domestic soil all the time in a range of magnitudes, ranging from the civil war (No I'm not saying we're having civil war now) all the way down to incidents no more extreme or publically dangerous than Boston. So it's hardly unprecedented.

You're acting like OMG federal troops on US soil and all that.. Look at it in perspective, and it's not out of the ordinary. Like I said, whether or not you think it was warranted in this case, the constitution does allow for it, which is all I was trying to say. You seem to be trying to argue with me like I want a police state. I don't.. Find someone else for that.

 

Wow hate 'Merica much?

Are capitalism and democracy mutually exclusive? What if the democracy chooses capitalism?

Politicians and corporations buying politics is crony capitalism and many on both sides will agree. Easily the biggest problem our country has, I will agree with you there.

The only thing we need to change is the corporations ability to buy our politicians, bring back public lashings?

 

Some of the drivel being spouted off one particular moron here sounds very much like what Karl Marx might have said, had he been mentally retarded.