15 Signs That The Quality Of Jobs In America Is Going Downhill Really Fast

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  1. tkolter

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    Maybe this should have been expected the Middle Class was born after WW2 when the US was king of the world in industrial might and stayed strong for only a few decades. Before that wasn't the overall picture a large working labor class (lower class), a modest middle class (managers, skilled workers, merchants) and a smaller upper class. Seems to me its just going back to its natural state rich on top, middle class in between and then a large work force who are the base of the pyramid.

    Even my grandfather a medical doctor and general surgeon was only in the middle class roughly lived like a union master tradesman, he was not exactly rich.
     
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    Lol, you guys are such drama queens. The average person is not moping around on the street as a homeless person, lol.
     
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    In summary...
    McRecovery.jpg
     
  4. slashbeast

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    Uhhhh last I checked less than half of working adults have a full time job. If you're not moping over that news then you're probably a rich (*)(*)(*)(*)(*).

    You guys need to pull your heads out of the sand because the situation on the street is looking pretty grim right now... :blankstare:
     
  5. Iriemon

    Iriemon Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    o Turned around an economy that was tanking at a -9% rate and shedding 700,000+ jobs a month
    o 39 straight months of private sector employment growth.
    o 15 straight quarters of GDP growth
    o 90% increase in the stock markets since taking office
    o Saved 2-3 million jobs with stimulus package
    o First president to decrease spending in a year, twice, in decades
    o Stock markets up 130% since bottom of the recession in 2009
    o 6.9 million more private sector jobs created since Jan 2010
    o Oil production increasing for the first time in decades.
    o Reduced the deficit by a record $207 billion, down 16%, in 2012
    o Employment rate dropped from 10% to 7.6%
    o Lowest rate of spending increases of any president in modern history
    o On-budget deficit has decreased every full fiscal year he's been in office.
    o Net creation of the number of people employed despite inheriting a economy losing 700,000+ jobs a month.

    If a Republican president could boast these stats, our Republican friends would be heralding him as a savior.
     
  6. Ronnie Ray Gun

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    the majority of those on gov. assistance are elderly & children [and White] but way to call old folks & kids "moochers" sitting around waiting for "free stuff." "business leaders" are reaping RECORD PROFITS and have been for years under the "socialist" so they should probably kiss Obama's arse. I love it when you guys get all worked up over education & then cheer congress on for killing legislation that would actually help students financially. :roll:
     
  7. Iriemon

    Iriemon Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    This was looking pretty grim:



    January 2009

    Job loss: Worst in 34 years
    Employers slashed 598,000 more jobs in January [2009] as unemployment rate climbed to 7.6%.

    NEW YORK (CNNMoney.com) -- Employers slashed another 598,000 jobs off of U.S. payrolls in January, taking the unemployment rate up to 7.6%, according to the latest government reading on the nation's battered labor market.

    The latest job loss is the worst since December 1974, and brings job losses to 1.8 million in just the last three months, or half of the 3.6 million jobs that have been lost since the beginning of 2008.


    http://money.cnn.com/2009/02/06/news/economy/jobs_january/index.htm

    Market players were also disappointed by reports that U.S. home prices fell 8.7% year-over-year in November, U.S. housing starts fell 15.5% in December, and weekly initial jobless claims rose 62,000 to 589,000.
    http://www.businessweek.com/investor/content/jan2009/pi20090122_192905.htm

    On Wednesday, the 30-stock Dow Jones industrial average finished with a loss of 248.42 points, or 2.94%, to 8,200[/B].

    http://www.businessweek.com/investor/content/jan2009/pi20090114_103250.htm

    598,000 Jobs Shed In Brutal January

    Unemployment Hits 7.6% as Downturn Picks Up Steam

    The need for progress on those fronts seemed more important than ever yesterday, as the Labor Department announced that conditions worsened more than expected last month. The nation's employers shed 598,000 jobs, the most since 1974, driving the unemployment rate to 7.6 percent from 7.2 percent. If the jobless rate keeps rising at the pace it has for the past two months, it will hit double digits in summer and reach its highest rate since the Great Depression by the fall.


    http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/02/06/AR2009020601156.html

    GROSS DOMESTIC PRODUCT: FOURTH QUARTER 2008 (PRELIMINARY)
    [Real gross domestic product -- the output of goods and services produced by labor and property located in the United States -- decreased at an annual rate of 6.2 [later revised to 9.2] percent in the fourth quarter of 2008, (that is, from the third quarter to the fourth quarter), according to preliminary estimates released by the Bureau of Economic Analysis.


    http://www.bea.gov/newsreleases/national/gdp/2009/pdf/gdp408p.pdf

    Continued Unemployment Claims at Record High
    In the week ending Jan. 24, the advance figure for seasonally adjusted initial claims was 588,000, an increase of 3,000 from the previous week's revised figure of 585,000.

    http://www.calculatedriskblog.com/2009/01/continued-unemployment-claims-at-record.html



    Things are looking great compared to that, which explains why, the moping of those invested in failure for political purposes aside, consumer confidence levels are at 6 year highs.

    WASHINGTON (AP) — A measure of U.S. consumer confidence remained near a six-year high in June ...

    http://www.usatoday.com/story/money...mer-sentiment-stays-near-6-year-high/2472561/
     
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    Soooooo they added a bunch of part time minimum wage jobs and that constitutes as improvement?

    Get outta here, you've drank so much kool aid that you've bulged to the point that you're transparent and blue.

    Also: People who aren't looking for work or quit looking for work aren't factored into the unemployment numbers.

    And one final note: http://www.politicalforum.com/current-events/310482-101m-get-food-aid-federal-gov-t-outnumber-full-time-private-sector-workers.html

    Yep. One out of three americans are on food stamps and that number is rising! 47% of working adults have full time jobs.

    DONT WORRY PEOPLE, THINGS ARE GETTING BETTER I SWEAR. JUST HANG WITH ME AND WE'LL PRETEND OUR WAY OUT OF THIS MESS.

    :roll:
     
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    Not because of Obama, but in spite of him.

    Not because of Obama, but in spite of him.

    Measly growth. Economy is limping along.

    When did you start liking Wall Streeters, bankers and rich investors?

    Stimulus package was a waste of money. The jobs would have come back without it.

    Trillion dollar deficits.

    When did you start liking Wall Streeters, bankers and rich investors?

    Not because of Obama, but in spite of him.

    On private lands. It's down on public lands. Nice try.

    Trillion dollar deficits.

    Not counting the people dropping out of the workforce does wonders for the unemployment rate.

    Another lie.

    Trillion dollar deficits.

    Not because of Obama, but in spite of him.
     
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    This faulty line of reasoning is held both by both many conservatives and progressives, for different reasons. The result was a university credentialism bubble.

    Meanwhile, wages in most of the lower level jobs were being driven downwards by competition from the growing supply of cheap immigrant labor, while wages in the professional jobs have also been stagnant because so many young people have been driven upward, displaced from the working class jobs their parents did because those jobs no longer pay enough to maintain a decent standard of living on.
     
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    You think? Not according to our "expert" here:


    Or is that the rule only when there is negative news on the economy?
     
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    I agree. We have really been in decline for over 10 years. Bill Clinton made China a major trade partner and stabbed the working class in the back.
    I think people vastly underestimate the effect of losing manufacturing jobs. Each job lost means less money saved, spent, taxed, and put towards social security, and medicare/medicade, etc. FOREVER.

    It's not like Bill Clinton wasn't warned:

    [video=youtube;EAHM9rXjdUo]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EAHM9rXjdUo[/video]
     
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    You can get full time work. It's easy. Renounce your citizenship. Move to Mexico. Sneak across the border. Get a job at a company that doesn't have to pay ObamaCare taxation for your employment. Thank the Gringos.

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    You mean the Republican-controlled Senate has let us down? Oh wait. Derp.
     
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    Maybe if the House wasn't constantly sending suicide bills to the Senate all the time we wouldn't have ended in sequester.
     
  15. Iriemon

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    No, 6.9 million new private sector jobs since Jan 2010, which are full time jobs, is an improvement.

    I'm not the one confused about what the improvement is.
    If you aren't looking for a job, you're not counted as unemployed. But they are counted in other measurements.

    Yet the 1% are now taking double the amount of the nation's income (20%) than they were 30 years ago.

    Here's an idea: Instead of passing laws which cut taxes for the 1% and divert more and more of the nation's income and wealth to the 1%, why not divert some of that money back to the middle classes and cut their taxes? Then not as many of them would need food aid.

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    It wasn't trade with China that caused unemployment to shoot up from 5% to 10% in a year.
     
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    [video=youtube;eMZC-Zifx90]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eMZC-Zifx90[/video]

    [video=youtube;ujrNBFlxGFM]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ujrNBFlxGFM[/video]

    I will cut the Deficit by HALF in my first term!
     
  17. FearandLoathing

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    Eight posts in.

    It's been five long, and lean years and still it only takes eight posts to get a no mind, blathering troll response that reminds us once again that Obama is at least as bad as Bush or Republicans in general.

    It doesn't matter what the criticism, Obama is a lousy BBQ'er and some empty vessel of an excuse for intelligent life will post some bull(*)(*)(*)(*) piece of garbage that "The Republicans did it too!"

    OK. Good. But wasn't Obama supposed to be better? Wasn't he about "hope" and "change"?

    and yet, his greatest supporters, what appears to be the brain trust of the Obama generation can only come up with "Bush did it too!"

    But, even worse? The Republicans have done a lot of (*)(*)(*)(*)ty things. But Obama has made those things into a fine art....

    And lastly, where did Bush ever promise to close Gitmo? Did he do that too?

    sooner or latter all the Obamabots are going to have to accept that Obama's crowning achievement, Obamacare, did more damage to the country three Bush administrations.

    Let's have another round of "it's Bush's fault!' We simply can't ever get tired of that tune. It's like the tinkling bells on an ice cream truck.....irritating in the extreme
     
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    it"s bush"s fault!

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    He meant HIS deficit.

    Now that he's pres Michelle's wardrobe is paid for
     
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    Ha! That is likewise rich coming from the party who's Minority Leader of the Senate pubicaly vowed to make his priority goal that of making Obama a one term President.
     
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    March 2009: President Barack Obama’s budget will generate a $1.9 trillion deficit this year [fiscal year 2009], $100 billion more than the administration projected, according to a person familiar with a Congressional Budget Office report to be released today.

    http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=newsarchive&sid=aOP6L_5_pEF0

    May 2013: The CBO projects a $642 billion budget deficit for fiscal year 2013, down more than $200 billion from its February estimate and the smallest annual shortfall since 2008.

    http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2013/05/14/budget-deficit-cbo-estimate/2158945/

    Your point?
     
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    Do you have a link to a quote of Reid saying this, or is it something you just made up?
     
  22. Professor Peabody

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    Get back to me when it's a fact not some government office "projection". It is comical the way liberals us "projections" as though they were facts.

    We all know what happens to Liberals cost estimates.
     
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    Spending money we don't have helps how exactly? People aren't dumb, they know that continued living on money that isn't there won't last long... Nobody in the House, Senate, or White House can change that simple reality...
     
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    That's right. Taco Bell is looking for college grads to work the counter on a part time basis.
     
  25. Albert Di Salvo

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    What is the Labor Force Participation rate today...and what was it in 2009?
     

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