The Chevy Impala of the past has always been a mechanics dream, breaks down often. What makes you think this won't?
Seems funny those that hate GM knows someone who is having all kinds of trouble with their new GM cars, but it doesn't show up in Consumer's Report,
Saving GM sounds great until you realize that all Obama and his administration did was coddle a conglomerate that was allowed to do whatever they want because Big Poppa Fed came riding in to save them from themselves. And no, this wasn't a right wing problem. It was a monumental failure of ownership and their unions with the Democratically run city of Detroit at it's heart. It's hilarious to watch a liberal blame GM on right wingers when the GM/UAW model that has been ascribed to the city itself will itself be going through a bankruptcy for the same reasons.
Old friend, some info for you that should help your argument. http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-...-shut-without-auto-bailouts-rattner-says.html Ford’s View Ford Chief Executive Officer Alan Mulally last month made similar comments, saying he doesn’t regret testifying before Congress in support of taxpayer support for his competitors. “We think about that a lot, should we have gone back and testified on behalf of our competitors who were bankrupt,” Mulally told reporters Sept. 18 in New York. “I would do the same thing again today.” Mulally said he agreed with the assessment of “the economic advisers of the Bush administration and the Obama administration that if GM and Chrysler had gone into free fall, they could have taken the United States from a recession into a depression.” The U.S. government was the only entity that could save the domestic automakers because no one, including banks that were dealing with their own financial crises, was willing to put private capital into GM and Chrysler at the beginning of 2009, Rattner said. “If you can’t pay your workers, if you can’t pay your suppliers, if you can’t pay your electric bills, then you have to liquidate,” he said. “This is what government is set up to do.” http://www.topix.com/forum/com/f/TTMDJ1SC1CVSCC916 Ford had the largest recall in automotive history when the gov't ordered them to recall 23,000,000 vehicles for defective transmissions. Ford CEO went to President Reagan and whined that if they had to recall virtually every Ford on the road because they built junk transmissions, Ford would have to declare bankruptcy. We were just pulling out of the recession, and Reagan had just come into office. He had no intention of being the president that took Ford down. So with the stroke of a pen he revoked authority of the government to issue mandatory recalls. Instead they could only issue safety advisories. Ford agreed to mail out 23,000,000 stickers to put on dashboards warning people that the transmission in their cars could cause injury or death. That is why I had to laugh when I hear Ford brag about not taking any govt bailout. If they had not taken a bailout they would have been gone 25 years ago. Hope this helps.
It's amazing how much the Rightwing hates people for doing nothing more than trying to be paid the full value of their labor.
I won't buy an American car until they lower their assembly line wages to minimum wage. I shouldn't have to pay more than 5 grand for a new car.
Unions extorting more than their value more like, thats the real issue. Just how many businesses wont you allow to go bankrupt? Maybe we can all get in this govt bailout action for failed businesses?. Or maybe it just the big ones that govt cronyism helped create. Would you be in favor of the govt owning GM if it couldnt stand on it own two feet, what is the limit of taxpayers money you're prepared to spend. What RWers hate is interference with the markets, bad business is meant to fail and good business is meant to succeed, supply and demand works out prices including wages, that is capitalism. Cronyism, over regulation and govt interference always creates more trouble than its worth.
I'm with ya on that, not just because of the stench of the bailout, but because my Fords always outperformed my Chevys. That having been said, I hope GM does bounce back. I just hope it will do so without any more of our tax dollars...
I don't understand the angst about the bailout of GM. Based on the fact that GM is on the way back, shouldn't we ALL be celebrating that the government FINALLY did something right? I mean that feat is rarer than a snowstorm in July, amirite?
The Rightwing doesn't hate interference in business. You guys just hate it when its workers doing it. If we were talking about a CEO negotiating hardcore and refusing to work unless he gets the pay he feels he deserves for his labor, every single one of you would be cheering him on. But when workers do it, all of a sudden they are "thugs" and "thieves" and "thy want the business to fail".
When CEO negotiate, and they lose -- they walk away. When union thugs/thieves negotiate and they lose, they try to sabotage a company by work stoppages and forcing other workers to join through intimidation.
Because no company has ever shifted from union to non-union labor before... - - - Updated - - - Because no company has ever shifted from union to non-union labor before...
Had a Traverse, it sucked, had a Cruze, it sucked, I now drive a new explorer and it beats the Chevys like no other. I wish GM just died.
Exactly. I could care less how many awards they won when they still owe us billions. - - - Updated - - - Yeah that makes it ok. LOL Pathetic.
I was never a big fan of the bailouts, conhog, but if GM comes back the way some of the banks did, then it will be money well spent. No doubt about that...
No, just that some conservative posters in here resent the fact that GM's unionized workforce have decent benefits, a realistic pension and were paid a living wage.
I was never such a big fan of American cars to be honest. I recently started driving German cars and they're well built and handle nicely. I always avoided Volkswagen (boxy and ugly) but the newer models are sleek and cool. Statistics about the automotive industry still showed General Motors to be in third place worldwide in terms of revenue, not bad at all.
Have we no flamethrowers? Have we no machine guns? Have we no nerve gas? - - - Updated - - - Yet you claim to drive one. Hypocrite!
Quote Originally Posted by Marine1 View Post Yes you do and guess how many trillions in profit that would have left the country if the American auto industry had failed? Guess how many thousands more American jobs would have been lost. Time for Americans to get smart and look at the whole picture instead of the narrow view you have been looking at. Does it have to be explained to you that if GM and Chrysler failed, it would also bring down Ford. As it would also put many of the part companies out of business that Ford depends on. Ford's top CEO even admitted that.
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