A little truth serum about Obamacare

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  1. Never Left

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    Do you really think that two progressive leftists who have a vested interest in deconstruting our economic and healthcare infrastructure and political systems are going to tell the truth about the very vehicle from which those goals will be accomplished? Everything about this bill is a fabrication and fraud.
     
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    That is what this thread is about. To give you the chance to point out the fabrications and fraud with links, that prove your claims. So far, you have not done that. I asked that this thread be about that only. Proving! Not accusing! You failed to deliver.
     
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    Given that your proof consists of the unsupported statements of two leftist, what's your point?
     
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    It is all obfuscation, no truth is available. But riddle me this batman? If is such a great fricking deal, then why has MaO'Bama issued countless exemptions? And if its such a great fricking deal why are not the president and senators and congressmen and women the first in line to be the first ones to sign up? They will not because it is a piece of progressive leftist crap.
     
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    That is the point. That they are backed up with supporting facts that no one so far has debunked. The left has supporting facts with links from relevant sources, that back up those facts, that give credibility to Obamacare. For example, death panels courtesy of Sarah Palin, government getting into your sex lives, it's a job killer, or businesses are cutting hours because of Obamacare. They have all been proven false, and there are no reliable links out there to debunk those claims.
     
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    Your post proves you also have nothing of substance to debunk the information provided by Clinton and Obama. This thread is progressing just as I thought. You address my thread by asking questions instead of bringing your own facts to the table. Telling me no truth is available without telling me how and why, is telling me absolutely nothing.

    You see, that is the point of this thread. To see how many of you will fall for the trap of responding to this post, which proves you have nothing as a counter argument to the facts given. Telling us all that it is obfuscation, untrue, lies, etc. just reveals what you actually know; "nothing". This is the intention of the thread. To reveal you know nothing.

    And by not providing us with anything of your own, destroys your own argument. And the argument that you basically have, is nothing more than a rant about Obamacare.
     
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    I doubt he's capable. Some folks need to distract with another punch line in order to escape the real topic.
     
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    How can something that has not even been tested be confirmed as correct if the plan has not yet been implemented. The fact that there are businesses that openly claim they are holding off hiring because of increased health costs and lowering employment hours IS happening. People in support of ObamaCare shrug it off as it being unsubstantial number. Its unconstitutional 8 different ways according to the surpreme court, but because its considered a TAX, its ok to implement.

    You Liberals should have a problem with the Government forcing you to buy something in the private market, if you don't understand that this is what this law does, go listen to the Supreme Court debate on the bill. They literally make the point that the government has the ability to force you to buy items like fruit and other items, but then claim they can't force you to eat it or use those items. This is what this law is about.
     
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    I love the intellectual honesty of MaO'Bama voters who can not and will not answer a direct questin.

    I ask again; "But riddle me this batman? If is such a great fricking deal, then why has MaO'Bama issued countless exemptions? And if its such a great fricking deal why are not the president and senators and congressmen and women the first in line to be the first ones to sign up? They will not because it is a piece of progressive leftist crap"?

    I expect an answer to this question.
     
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    Quitting for Obamacare: Trapped workers may seek relief in new health exchanges

    As millions of Americans wait to see how the federal health exchanges shake out, some who’ve been hanging onto their jobs just for the insurance say Obamacare gives them a new reason to bid their old employers goodbye.

    One Arizona couple, Claudia and Joseph Schulz, just quit their jobs, in fact, and launched a husband-and-wife real estate team, largely because they can sign up this week for health insurance not tethered to any position.

    “That was the fear before. We felt too much on our own,” says Claudia Schulz, 33, of Phoenix. “Now, if we’re able to make our dream come true of owning our own business, or at least giving it a shot, it’s worth it.”

    Starting a business or retiring early will suddenly become an option under the new exchanges, experts say, especially for the many employees who have felt trapped by so-called “job lock” -- being stuck in a position because of the benefits, usually health insurance, it provides.

    “The Affordable Care Act completely changes the playing field,” says Paul Fronstin, director of the health research programs at the Employee Benefit Research Institute. “You don’t need your employer any more for health benefits.”

    http://www.nbcnews.com/health/quitt...y-seek-relief-new-health-exchanges-8C11277058
     
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    You only get to ask questions by following what the thread asks. By supplying links and facts you discovered and posting them here. Your questions can only be answered or responded to by supplying that information from a reliable source. Go back to my original thread and read. You don't set the rules for this thread. You set the rules with your own.
     
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    Balderdash! Leftists have no answer because they are sheeple regurgitateing the party line. The truth about Obama care is that it is designed to reduce insurence companies poverty and usher in single payer rationed death care.
     

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