How was Trayvon supposed to get home?

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  1. Margot2

    Margot2 Banned

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    His parents weren't home.
     
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    Professor Peabody Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Confronting someone following you is always a good idea. OOppss, confronting someone following you is NEVER a good idea. Martin was just part of the evolutionary process. Why can't they accept that? Any person with an appreciable amount of intelligence would head straight for the safety of his father's girlfriend's home and call the Police if being followed by an unknown person. But that's not what Martin did, he chose to confront the person following him instead and got himself killed in the evolutionary process. I just can't figure out why they can't accept the same evolutionary process they want us to believe exists.
     
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    Since when is the father's girlfriend a parent? It was HER residence AND he had a cell phone in his hands.
     
  4. Margot2

    Margot2 Banned

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    Don't nit pick with me.. Bronco Billy's post precedes.
     
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    Professor Peabody Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I really don't care what you want or don't want me to do.............get over it.
     
  6. Micketto

    Micketto New Member Past Donor

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    Precedes.... by over a month, ffs.


    I'm sure Bronco is glad you finally answered his July 24 post.
     
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    The world will never know.
     
  8. Pardy

    Pardy Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Martin causes his death by not taking a cab to the place where he was staying?

    What a useful post.

    How about answering the question rather than trolling?

    What could Trayvon have done to not have Zimmerman call the cops on him?
     
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    Honestly, it really is just a sad case. To those who actually listened and processed information, we heard Trayvons Dad call the cops because he could not reach his son, and something had him worried. Trayvons father could not even give the operator the address of where he was, because he did not live there, he just happened to be having sex and cheating on his wife, and brought his kid along. This is the same father who mustered up enough energy to create another child, 3 weeks after Trayvons death.

    I think its a sad excuse to pretend that Brandy was his parent, as if thats even true. Trayvon was failed by everyone in his life. No one cared about him until he was dead, and then his family lied about what kind of person he was, for whatever reasons.
     
  10. Pred

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    Probably not walk slowly in the rain at night, peering in windows, ect, looking suspicious. If we was running home down the sidewalk, he would've been using keys to go into his house before Zimmerman had time to contact anyone, which would've immediately alleviated any fears that he was suspicious. Case closed. Is it against the law to slowly walk in the rain? Nope. But its within anyone elses right to find you suspicious especially when thats exactly what people do who case homes...considering the robbery in the neighborhood.

    No one did a thing wrong until someone attacked the other and all evidence points towards Trayvon throwing the first punch. After that, he deserved what he got. You don't attack people, with apparent intent to severely hurt them. You don't slam someone head on the ground unless you want to knock them out or kill them. Sorry, if he lived, he would've killed or maimed someone else later on guaranteed....people like him always do.
     
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    Get real. Teens without cars walk all the time and sometimes they get caught in the rain.
     
  12. <IF> Marius

    <IF> Marius New Member

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    It's truly astounding the sheer fallacious and deliberate ignorance the Zimmerman apologists have to go through to justify his actions.

    Now, in the face of a man who stalked a boy who had committed no crimes in any remote way, a man who stalked a young teenage boy in a deserted street at night in his car (while refusing to identify himself) until that boy began to move faster, he then got out of the car he had been using to slowly follow the boy along the street (God knows what was going through poor Trayvons head before Zimmerman escalated it) and stalked that boy (while still refusing to identify himself), carrying a gun, on foot before Trayvon eventually had to face this mugger, rapist, attacker or violent nutjob.

    Yet here, despite all of that, we have the Zimmerman apologists trying to claim that Trayvon should have identified himself instead of the deranged, gun wielding stalker who had been blatantly following him and instigated and escalated the situation and attack.

    Apparently being a law abiding citizen walking home means you have to do everything you can to make sure the gun wielding stalker knows you're not trying to hurt him. Sigh.
     
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    What is the acceptable speed to walk? Five miles per hour? Four miles per hour? Maybe 4.2 mph?

    Zimmerman did not say that Martin was peering into windows in the NEN call. He said that he was walking and standing. In fact, Zimmerman said that Martin was standing in the mailbox shelter near the entrance (likely to avoid the rain), where he could not have been looking into houses.

    How did Martin look suspicious? Is this from standing and walking at an unacceptable pace?

    That's the point of this thead. Why did Zimmerman need to contact anyone? According to Zimmerman's NEN call, Martin was being lawful.

    How is standing and walking home from a convenience store 'suspicious'? Millions of people walk home every day.

    The trial has ended, but that doesn't mean that Zimmerman acted flawlessly. It also doesn't mean that there wasn't a possible hate crime.

    I'm just wondering what Martin could have done to not be bothered by anyone.

    So Zimmerman needed to call the police because he knew that Martin was guaranteed to hurt somebody?
     
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    Trayvon Martin ended up where most ghetto thugs end up. The only reason the Left cares is because the media was able to turn this into a white against black hate crime even thought George Zimmerman is Hispanic. If a black man had shot Trayvon Martin, America would have never heard about it.
     
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    Why do you care so much about skin color?
     
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    Its been gone over 1000 times already. Go back through the case please. I won't repeat it. ANYONE can be considered suspicious. ANYONE. Its YOUR opinion at the time. People call the cops on their neighbors for being too loud. Who determines what too loud is? YOU and the cops obviously. You can't attack someone though. He didn't know he'd get attacked until he got attacked. That why you call the cops FIRST! Apparently Zimmerman made the right call didn't he? Its not like someone calls the cops then gets in a fight, makes sure all the evidence shows he didn't actually start it, makes sure to get his head slammed on the ground, then skillfully takes his gun out AFTER all this occurred and shoots/kills someone, with no witnesses and before the cops can show up and catch the whole charade in person. If he didn't kill Trayvon with one shot, Trayvon could've said anything. Zimmerman is a evil genius to pull off such an amazing display of premeditated murder. Now honestly, do YOU think someone like Zimmerman could pull off such a feat? Give me a break=)

    The only thing that would've put doubt in anyone's mind was if Trayvon was a shy, wimpy nerd with a perfect GPA, no history of aggression, a perfect family and loads of friends that can honestly say he would never pick up a finger and hurt a person. REALITY says otherwise.

    I won't continue in this thread because its been beaten to a pulp and Traycon supporters are living in a delusional fantasy land....or you're all just trolls, which some of you have already proven to be on this subject.
     
  17. Micketto

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    Which question... why someone decided to revive his own Trayvon thread, that died over 2 months ago ?

    I can't fathom why.



    Calling the cops played in Zimmerman's favor. It's a good thing he did.


    Regardless...
    The trial is over. Time to accept the verdict. :(
     
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    The only thing that would've put doubt in anyone's mind was if Trayvon was a shy, wimpy nerd with a perfect GPA, no history of aggression, a perfect family and loads of friends that can honestly say he would never pick up a finger and hurt a person. REALITY says otherwise.


    Jesus....
     
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    And most 17 years olds, who have good grades and parents that care about them have cars. Where was Trayvons car? OH, no wait, his grades sucked so bad he was not eligible to drive, forgot about that. And unless he was autistic, he did not forget he was in the rain, unless he told Rachel he forgot it was raining. Teenagers should have respect for adults, bottom line, I dont care what the situation is.
     
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    Absolutely correct.

    In the 513 days between TM's death and Z' verdict.... 11,106 black people were murdered by black people.

    We didn't hear about any of them until that amazing stat was released.

    Why don't the media or race-baiters care about black people unless someone "white" kills them ?



    http://www.freeinews.com/united-states/in-513-days-trayvon-shooting-zimmerman-verdict-11106-blacks-murdered-by-blacks
     
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    Is standing and walking suspicious behavior. Do the police have the resources to respond to everyone's concerns about suspicious things?


    We should all call the cops as soon as we see a black person in case they attack us?

    If Zimmerman supposedly knew that Martin was as violent as you claim, why did he get out of his car to follow him? Should citizens put themselves in harm's way like that, especially before the police arrive?

    You don't need to repeat yourself. You already stated that George Zimmerman called for the police from his car because he knew that Martin would attack him. I'm wondering how Zimmerman could have predicated that Zimmerman "made the right call" by assuming that Martin would attack him.

    How could George Zimmerman know Martin's GPA? Did he call for the police because Martin had poor school attendance and poor marks?

    The question is why Zimmerman called for the police to come. It's in the OP.

    I've accepted the verdict. You seem to be confused about that because you've mentioned it before.

    I'm just waiting for an answer as to what Martin could have done to not be bothered. After months, I still haven't seen an answer.
     
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    Because he is neighborhood watch and his job is to alert police when something suspicious is happening.




    Yeah... you've accepted it ;)
     
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    That's right. So how long should it have taken him to walk home from the 7 11. the lynch mob screams what happened between when the nen call ended and the first calk to 911. Well what was happening in those extra 30 min between when Martin left the 7 11 and should have been home?
     
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    How long should it have taken Martin to return home from the convenience store? Is half an hour enough time? Maybe 40 minutes is an acceptable length of time to go to the convenience store? Apparently Martin took an extra 30 minutes to get home, which you seem to ind unacceptable.

    What is the acceptable length of time to return home from a convenience store in order to not have the police called on you?

    Way to edit and misquote my post. This is against the rules, by the way. Can you please either stay on topic and quit trolling or leave the thread?
     
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    Well, had his parents given any care or concern about him, he would have been grounded for his third suspension and would not have had the luxury to "walk" to the store to get some candy, nor would he have had his phone to talk to mentally disabled young girls.
     

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