Obama "The Hostage Taker" Demands $1.1 Trillion Ransom

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  1. BestViewedWithCable

    BestViewedWithCable Well-Known Member

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    Thats going to be provided by robots in hospitals, instead of employed people.
     
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    Iriemon Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Jeez, he's not asking for $1.1 trillion in stimulus. That is putting the budget back on pre-sequester path, over 10 years.
     
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    RichT2705 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Which tax cuts would those be? Last I checked, they were taken away....because reducing peoples income is always a great plan in a recession. :rolleyes:
     
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    BestViewedWithCable Well-Known Member

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    last week it was the republicans who were going hold the world for ransom? :roll:
     
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    Or we can allow Obama to have what he wants and spend untold trillions in new "stimulus". That'll work wonders on the debt.
     
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    Iriemon Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I didn't vote for Republicans.
     
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    RichT2705 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Shrimp on treadmills, and why gay men in Argentina like to have sex after drinking....cmon, that stuff will help. Just give him the money.
     
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    GraspingforPeace Well-Known Member

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    Has he called for "new stimulus"? Or is this just your imagination running rampant?
     
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    Cloward-Piven devotees and Alinsky worshippers like Obama and the Democrats seldom do.
     
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    Iriemon Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Gee, try to remember back to the elections, less than one year ago.
     
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    BestViewedWithCable Well-Known Member

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    The sequester was his idea, and he promised obamacare was only going to cost 900 billion, when it actually costs 2.6 trillion....

    maybe he should start telling the truth for a change.... we can only hope....

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    when obama came up with the sequester, and promised obamacare was only going to cost 900 billion?
     
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    But interest rates and transactional costs will rise and thus the collective, including you, will be paying for it down the road.
     
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    I hope it works out better for them, than it did for Wallowitz.....


    [video=youtube;OSfo09Gi1Co]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OSfo09Gi1Co[/video]

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    I'm stimulating the economy. I'm the 50% that an economy needs to stay healthy...the buyers of goods.
     
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    If Obama had his way, he wouldn't be pushing for more stimulus spending? His pet Krugman is calling for more, why would Obama disagree?
     
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    The sequester was Obama's idea?

    Thanks Obama, for getting the deficit down to less than half in four years!
     
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    So...none.
     
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    Private Liquidation of the market is what's absolutely necessary, we need small businesses and the American People to get back to work again. That kind of activity can only be found by creating real, actual capital. Capital is money that you have, not money that you print.

    For as much as the Democrats love Bill Clinton, they amazingly do not want to return to the Clinton economy. That magical thing called a surplus.

    I want to, so I want to shave off as much of the debt as possible.
     
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    So you dont agree then? You dont get to say we need to slowly trim and then say we cant because it harms the economy. We have been spending more than we bring in for far too long, it is time to make common sense cuts. Not making the cuts create a $16 Trillion debt which is also bad for the economy.
    So you are saying the economy has improved while we have cut spending? Sounds like a plan with a proven track record. BTW, Reagan was just as bad if not worse when it came to spending.
    I am confused. Either the economy is getting better, which I think you have argued repeatedly or it isnt. If it is improving alongside the cuts "That has never happened in modern history" it must not be as harmful as you think. Suggesting that the economy would be even better without the cuts is just a matter of opinion.
    Increased revenues along with reduced spending would be helpful. The only problem is that people are for one or the other for the most part. I am sure you would rather raise taxes without curtailing spending. This will only bloat the government spending more, when we hit an economic lull, the spending will be totally unsustainable and cause a deep recession. If we reduce spending and increase revenues, we will be in a position to reduce debt and withstand the natural ebb and flow of the economy.
     
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    What does that mean, if "Obama had his way"?
     
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    How does that work? You don't believe Obama is responsible for the sequester, yet you still thank him for reducing the deficit. The dissonance... it's amazing.

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    I couldn't have been any clearer. You just don't want to answer my question.
     
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    So ... 20% cut in the income tax, elimination of the alternative minimum tax, elimination of all investment taxes up to $250k, elimination of the estate tax ... You weren't paying attention to the last elections?

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    BVWC just said he was. Take it up with her.
     
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    Actually, you could have been many times clearer. You made it clear that you thought Obama wanted to spend trillions in new stimulus. Then you asked me if I thought he would push for it, "if he had his way", whatever that means. So, obviously you are simply making unfounded assertions about what Obama wants based on your preconceived notions. That's all you needed to admit. You make up scenarios in your mind that you think would happen under some context that you won't explain and you're pretty much claiming that you're a mind reader.
     
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    Haven't seen any of those. Not much sense going down election promises lane is there? I also heard you don't raise taxes during a recession, the border was going to be tighter, here come the jobs etc etc...

    In the real world however, all that's happened is the people got saddled with the removal of the tax cuts.

    Less disposable income to spend and stimulate a troubled economy.
     
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    Its true, Obama was for it, before he was against it, then he had to sign it, now he wants to hold America hostage until congress gets rid of his idea.
     

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