Fla.College Student Disfigured in London by Muslim Gang, for Drinking Beer

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  1. Kurmugeon

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    Let say for the sake of argument and example that the individual was quite obviously, undeniably and disruptively inebriated...

    Does that give common citizens the right to beat the drunk up in order achieve what they see as proper behavior?

    If it were a group of Methodist, Tea-Totaling, Prohibitionist CHRISTIANS going around beating up drunks to push their no-alcohol agenda, would we allow it?

    Is it not the job of the POLICE, courts, jails and prisons to regulate Drunk and Disorderly behavior?

    For almost all Americans, we have an almost instinctive reaction against the idea of Christian Fundamentalists pushing their social agenda on the rest of U.S. as illegal and abusive.

    So why in the Hell does the Left think that Islamic Fundamentalist pushing their Sharia Law social agenda is acceptable?

    Or the Radial Greens pushing their social agenda... Radical Environmentalism is just another Radical, Faith Based, Illogical Religion!

    If we're going to have separation of Church and State, it damn well better include separation for the Islam, Green, and LGBT Religions.

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    The connection between this incident and Obama is clear and logical.

    You just don't LIKE it.
     
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    To date, there has been a lot of opportunity to deal with the lawlessness of the Muslims in the U.K. Do you think something has changed? I would hope these thugs would be dealt with, but I somehow doubt it.
     
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    I never said he was, only that if someone is drunk I prefer the authorities handle it like we do here in the USA


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    Middle East resides in the Continent of Asia.

    European news agencies refer to Muslims as Asians.
     
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    Really? No guns?

    I'm sure the relatives of the 20 people shot to death to date are relieved to hear that.

    http://www.torontopolice.on.ca/statistics/ytd_stats.php
     
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    Amazingly ironic isn't it? The world's colonizer is becoming the colonized?
     
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    Progressive UK leaders' self-flagellation will likely become national suicide.
     
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    There is no failure of logic.

    Because Christianity is not the foreign political/legal system that Islam is. Mexico is a former part of two Western European empires.
     
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    A man is to appear at Thames Magistrates Court today charged with grievous bodily harm in connection with an attack on an American student. Shelim Uddin, 20, of Fieldgate Mansions, Romford Street, Whitechapel was charged yesterday with grievous bodily harm. He was remanded in custody to appear at Thames MagistratesÂ’ Court today. Detectives are continuing their investigation to trace others involved in the incident which occurred just after midnight on June 17 in Commercial Road, Whitecahapel. Francesco Hounye, 22, from Florida had been in the UK for just three days when the incident happened. He had been out for the night with a friend in Brick Lane and the pair were on their way home to Shadwell.

    http://www.eastlondonadvertiser.co.uk/news/court-crime/man_to_appear_in_court_over_whitechapel_attack_1_2931063
     
  11. Kurmugeon

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    Its a pot or boiler on heat.

    The common Brits, and the Swedes, and the French, and the Americans... the middle class rank and file native born citizens have been watching the Militant Muslims gaining power in their communities by simply "Assuming-the-Right" to implement Sharia Law by illegal, brutal, beat-down enforcement.

    Well, anger, resentment, outrage has been building for a long time, as the ivory tower Liberal Elites tell them to "eat-cake".

    I'm really not sure which will happen first, a violent backlash against the Militant Muslims, or perhaps more likely, a non-violent, voter, massive backlash against Liberalism.

    Once the Liberals are removed from positions of political power, and the regular law enforcement officers are given authorization to put a stop to the "Vigilante Sharia Brute Enforcement Squads", the problem will end, without ever seeing a violent confrontation between the common people and the Islamic Extremists.

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    It would be nice to see. I live in places where if it happened the men of the area would take care of it.
     
  13. Kurmugeon

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    When ever dealing with groups, it might be a Murder->Suicide, or in the case of Nations, Deliberate seeding of Civil War, but I cannot imagine that ALL of the people in Briton, Sweden, France.... Really want to Suicide Western Civilization to make way for militant Islam.

    I can speak from personal experience that less than 1 in 4 Americans is willing to Islamo-Suicide.

    Most of the Americans encouraging the quasi-official acceptance of Sharia Law are NOT really pro-Islam, they just hope to loot during the Chaos.

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    How do we know these were muslims again?
     
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    He should've offered the savages some child porn instead of beer - that'd have been more up their alley.
     
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    Ah, another eurotard multicultural success story, good for them.
     
  17. slava29

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    Very sleazy comment. I know who I'm dealing with now. What's your source for

    cities? I'd love to see it but I know I won't because it's B.S. Canadian

    cities are all run by leftists. How come there is no gun violence there? What

    about European cities. I'm sure they aren't run by Repubs.

    Massive sweeping generalization. I'm going to call B.S again.


    You mean best medical care that the American middle class can't afford? My

    father-in-law, an American, a former Fortune 500 GM, and a Republican got

    cancer, lost his house and then died two years later from the cancer anyway. I

    think I'm going to stay up here thanks. I'd like to leave my kids something.

    There is a tonne to like about American culture. I just don't like fascists

    like you. Cobain was poor, anti-gun and most certainly would have felt more at

    home in a blue state America than a red one. Cobain died because he got a gun

    so easily.
     
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    35 million gun free people in Canada....and loving it. Given that I live 30 minutes from the US border it's a good thing for you that I'm not named Fritz or Ivan because I'm pretty sure your kids would be Gunther or Igor. If you'll notice that we've backed you up in every war you've been in...except Iraq and Vietnam. We are submerged in American culture without actually being American. It gives us a lot of insight into your great country. You might try listening to us once in a while.
     
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    A lot less guns. I've lived here most of my life and I've yet to see one. Greater Toronto is similar in size to Chicago. Twenty isn't bad.
     
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    Does it mean that I can beat you up next to your house because you violated some rules that I came up with? I mean it must be your fault that you got out of your house, you should be more careful next time....
     
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    Can dish it out but can't take it huh? Typical Lefter. Here is your data, now concede the point please:

    Stats from the FBI, I added democrat history of running these towns into the ground:

    "The Top 10 Most Dangerous Cities of 2010

    1. St. Louis--Democrat Mayor for the last 61 years
    2. Camden, NJ--Democrat Mayor for the last 24 years
    3. Detroit--Democrat Mayor for the last 48 years
    4. Flint, Mich.--Democrat Mayor for the last 35 years
    5. Oakland--Democrat Mayor for the last 43 years
    6. Richmond, Calif.--Not a single republican in the mayors or councils office for the last 20 years
    7. Cleveland, Ohio--Democrat Mayor for the last 22 years
    8. Compton, California--Democrat mayor for last 50 years
    9. Gary, Ind.--Democrat Mayor the last 16 years
    10. Birmingham, Ala.--Democrat Mayor for the last 35 years

    Safest 10 cities in the US: (Scores of 100 are the safest)

    100 Mason, OH - republican
    99 San Clemente, CA - republican
    98 San Juan Capistrano, CA - republican
    97 Hoffman Estates, IL - republican
    96 Elmhurst, IL - republican until the last election when the mayor tried to run and hold 2 offices at once, elected to council, lost mayoral race to a Democrat. Council still Republican
    95 Goleta, CA - Democrat
    94 Leawood, KS - Republican
    93 Northbrook, IL - Republican
    92 Milton, MA - Town Meeting format, leans Democrat in National Elections, referendum for local decisions.
    91 Winter Springs, FL - republican
    90 Pacifica, CA - Republican

    Democrats have 100% of the 10 worst cities. They have 25% of the safest cities, 20% if you count the last 10 years as the figure, instead of the future because of that dick in Elmhurst.

    Republicans control 0% of the worst cities, and 75%- 80% of the safest ones, depending on how you judge Elmhurst.

    I have the list for the top 30 worst and safest cities too and it comes out the same way. 0 republican leadership, and the safest 30 are all republican run except 2. One run by referendum, and one by democrats. Let me know if you need that list I can track it down.

    Even in Europe the right wing districts are the safest. Australia and Canada too. The UK especially. Republican USA is safer then Canada's average.


    Just wait until I start burying you on data and you dodge and deflect.




    Sorry to hear that. The middle class can afford care. We wouldn't have the best recovery rates in the world of they werent getting the treatment would we? Just not possible statistically.

    Fascists are pro government people like yourself who like to direct economic outcomes. Your ethnic cleaning of the right thread is straight out of Mussolini's play book. And you call me the fascist?

    Cobain was middle class, Seattle was run by republicans most his life and he owned guns and died very rich.

    No it was because he was able to get heroin so easily. Depressed people shouldn't self medicate. He could have just as easily swallowed a bottle of pills and would have.
     
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    I've been in the SF Bay Area for 45 years and have never seen a person holding a gun that was not law enforcement or a friend taking one to the range with me. I've heard the being fired, for certain.

    Toronto proper has a population of ~2 million. Twice the size of the Salt Lake City Valley. In 2011 [the only year I can find stats on both areas], Toronto had 4 times the gun homicide rate than SLC. 24 to 6. That makes it twice as likely, per capita, for someone to die in Toronto than SLC.

    According to the Brady Campaign, Utah has the most lenient gun laws in the United States. Only 6 in a population of 1 million in the Salt Lake City area died of gun homicide, despite having the most lenient laws in the country. When compared to a city like Chicago that has one of the most strict gun laws, it's not the leniency that is leading to gun homicides, but lack thereof.

    Gun free zones = high rates of gun related crimes.
     
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    Sorry pal. I've been to SLC and it's nothing like the size of Toronto. You should come here. The Greater Toronto Area (look it up) has a population of 6 million people. Americans have absolutely no clue how big greater Toronto really is. We hear it ALL the time when you guys come up here.

    Perhaps gun free zones have high rates of crimes in the US but the majority of Canada is one gun free zone and we simply have much less gun crime. The problem is that gun free zones in America aren't really gun free zones because guns are so readily available for people that want them. In order to legally buy a gun in Canada I have to go through a ringer of tests and background checks. I've seen people buying handguns in the US (Pennsylvania - my mother in law lived there) by simply showing their license. I realize it differs from state to state but there are easy ways around buying guns out of state. Canadians don't have the opportunity to buy American guns because we'd have to cross international borders in order to get them here.

    Good for San Fran - A beautiful city. I was 15 when I stayed there and it was amazing.

    From Wikipedia
    Firearm-related death rate per 100,000 population

    US 10.3 (2011)
    France 3.01 (2009)
    Canada 2.38 (mixed years)
    Italy 1.28 (2009)
    Germany 1.24 (2010)
    Australia 1.06 (2010)
    Spain 0.62 (mixed years)
    U.K. 0.25 (2010)


    Guns per 100 Residents 2007

    US 94.3
    France 31.2
    Canada 30.8
    Germany 30.3
    Australia 15.0
    Italy 11.9
    UK 11.7
    Spain 10.4
     
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    Sorry pal. Go back and read what I wrote. I compared the Salt Lake City Valley, which includes Kearns, Murray, Sandy, Taylorsville, Jordan, Tooele, etc with Toronto proper. Not the single city of SLC to Greater Toronto. I'd have said the Greater Toronto Area.
     
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    How the heck am I supposed to know what the Salt Lake City Valley is? How densely populated is that area anyway? Toronto is packed pretty tightly together. Are you sure the comparison is valid based on population density? Why did you pick this particular community to compare to Toronto? It seems like a really odd comparison.
     

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