Is mixing mental illness and Islam deadly?

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  1. Brewskier

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    Why is a "radical Muslim" bad? Because he takes his religion too seriously? Isn't that a problem with Islam itself? When the only Muslims that are "good" are the ones who don't follow their religion very strictly, that seems to suggest a problem with the religion.

    And I like your excuse making for why they are "angry". Should native Europeans start rioting and beheading people because Muslims are setting up civilizations in their countries?
     
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    Just like Christianity. But of course one also has to take into account why some have stopped taking their religion too seriously and why others haven't.

    Are those Muslims there by force or by open invitation?
     
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    Not exactly like Christianity. Christianity and Islam are different religions and teach different things. Only one seems to pull at the heart strings of progressives, though, and ironically it's the one most opposed to a progressive's way of life and values. Go figure.

    Do the leaders of Middle Eastern countries believe the West are in their countries by force, or were they invited?

    I highly doubt the majority of native Europeans asked for Muslims to come by the millions, enforce sharia law on the streets of Britain, and set up Islamic enclaves and ghettos in the shadows of major European cities. Should the ones who oppose this start rioting and beheading? Or do you hold Europeans to a higher standard than Muslims in the Middle East?
     
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    I wasn't saying they teach the same things. Let's try it like this.

    “Why is a "radical Christian” bad? Because he takes his religion too seriously? Isn't that a problem with Christianity itself? When the only Christians that are "good" are the ones who don't follow their religion very strictly, that seems to suggest a problem with the religion.”

    If this isn’t just as valid as your previous inquiry explain why.

    No country should tolerate something if they feel it causes them harm but the ideals of that country and the development of that country will determine how they deal with the problem which is the point. I don’t disagree with the statement that fundamental religious belief creates a problem but the negative behavior associated with that religious belief has a great deal to do with where and how one lives.
     
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    Mixing hardcore belief in any religion with mental illness and you potentially have a dangerous cocktail.
     
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    Aw man, now you're just flamebaiting me. Don't do that, it won't get you anywhere.
     
  7. Brewskier

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    Since you're so bent on creating a false equivalency, point out the Christian groups in the US who are in league with what "radical" Muslims are doing around the world.

    The central message of Christianity isn't to fight against unbelievers until they convert or agree to become second class citizens. Islam is unique, in that way.

    I see that you dodged my question. Very telling. Progressives give radical Muslims a pass on barbarism because they are "angry", and it's our fault because we are in their countries. Well, they are in our countries too, but if someone were to start up a group terrorizing Muslims in the West, progressives wouldn't give them a pass. The reason is that Muslims are like the Mexicans of Europe... fast breeding voting crop for the left-wing to remain in power.
     
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  9. Vicariously I

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    Wait, whose creating the false equivalency?

    Did I not start by saying that I wasn't saying they teach the same things? And below I see you accuse me of dodging questions....funny.


    That's a rather vague generalizing statement.


    And now we've gone off the deep end. That didn't take long.
     
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    No, you don't have to be.

    I see you didn't bother with the meat of the post. Why they may be attacking the west.
     
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    Only if they want to be "bad" also. Some civilizations can rise above and be a greater more honorable civilization. Having said that, is it most muslims doing the beheading, or just a very small minority?
    And it seems the euro countries are encouraging muslims to settle. The west, USA, in particular, does it with force of military or monetary. As we control the worlds money and have the biggest guns.
     
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    If you say. I just called it as you stated it.
     
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    I'd say it's the latter as evidenced by non-violent converts becoming Muslims and turning violent.
     
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    Of course the West is getting mad when Sharia Law is implemented in their country,...
    But they ignore that they are advertising and promoting Feminism in Muslim countries.
     
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    ...and the West is ridiculing the Patriarchy in Muslim countries while promoting a trend that will lead to more of a Matriarchy as we see in America.

    The West is showing the world how nakedness and sexual license for women can empower them in a Politically Correct culture that will bring out the Gays enmass, allow multiple divorces and property settlement, break the Family into Single Mother matriarchs, allow the fatherless kids to beak all the Laws, require the daughters abort 1.2 million grand kids every year, and force the Tax Payer to provide $1 Trillion for Child Support/Housing, and distribute zillions in Food Stamps.

    Most men in America would have resisted in 1965, had they been give the choice that included these factors when the Sexual Revolution sounded like the girls would just be more cooperative.



    1) Census Bureau: Means-Tested Gov't Benefit Recipients Outnumber Full-Time Year-Round Workers October 24, 2013 - 11:32 PM - See more at: http://cnsnews.com/news/article/ter...ecipients-outnumber-full#sthash.faNhi8Kp.dpuf

    2) If women all quit their jobs and stayed home raising the family, there would Full Employment:

    By forcing themselves into the Unskilled Labor Pool, women effectively lower the Wage to the point that one full time male can no longer support a family alone.
     
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    Its the same mentality as the Westboro Church which goes to an extreme as did the ancient prophets, in order to garner public attention to the growth in the sexual immorality which ALWAYS ends with down fall for everyone.

    These people believe they are getting a focus on the coming tragedy which will hurts us all.


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    Rev. 17:3 So he carried me away (in the spirit of thought), into the wilderness (of my imagination) and I saw (as if) a woman, ...

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    .... (those who have Institutionalized a system of sexual seduction into a failed matrimony), sit upon a scarlet coloured beast (of a brazen and corrupt sexually misdirected economic system: [Dan 3:1-5]), full of names of (Pagan) blasphemy, having seven heads:
    (which existed in (1) Egypt, (2) Assyria, (3) Babylon, (4) Persia/Mede, (5) Greece, (6) Rome (7) the whole of Western Culture to follow)...

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    ... having ten horns upon these seven heads:
    (1. Undivided Empire; capital Rome: [305 AD],

    2. Western Roman Empire: (Romulus Augustus): [to 476 AD],

    3. Eastern Roman: Byzantine Empire, [1453 AD]

    4. Charlemagne, [800 - 1000 AD]

    5. Holy Roman Empire, [1200 AD-1492 AD]

    6. Italy, [Renaissance, 16th century]

    7. Spain, [17th century]

    8. France, [18th-19th Century]

    9. Britain, [19th-20th century]

    10. Nazi Germany, [20th century])


    11. America next…?
     
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    Almost all Christians I've talked to justify those stonings, and say something like, "it was a different time," and, "Who are we to question God's punishment?"

    I'm not sure how this is unique to Islam. You don't think this applies to Christians as well?

    I'd say most of the time, it doesn't have to do with mental illness for either religion - it has to do with buying into messed up morality, and feeling justified in their actions because they either think they are doing god's work, or just use that to pass it off as such.
     
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    Flame bait thread, now closed.

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