Is the fix in for the 2016 GOP Nomination?...i.e. Chris Christie?

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  1. Gorn Captain

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    "Former Republican presidential nominee Mitt Romney on Sunday listed four Republicans who could win the presidency in 2016 — leaving out two notable exceptions in Sens. Ted Cruz (R-Texas) and Rand Paul (R-Ky.).

    Romney said New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie (R) stands out as one of the brightest lights in the GOP, but also listed Former Florida Gov. Jeb Bush, Sen. Marco Rubio (Fla.) and his former GOP running mate, Rep. Paul Ryan (Wis.).

    "I mean there is a long list of very capable people, but Chris Christie stands out as one of the very strongest lights in the Republican Party,” Romney said on NBC’s “Meet the Press.”


    http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box...ys-christie-is-one-of-strongest-lights-in-gop

    As we have seen over the past several Presidential elections, the GOP Leaders, not the ideologlogical Base, are the ones who choose the Nominee, either with endorsements or more importantly....money.

    No one can deny that Romney had the Big Money Boys behind him, and he used that effectively to knee-cap Gingrich, after South Carolina, and later Rick Santorum, by blanketing the primary states with negative TV ads.

    And if Romney now is handing the crown to Christie (over his former Veep choice, Paul Ryan)....it stands to reason the RNC and the Big Money Boys are likely going to back Christie.

    And if true, using the "Romney Strategy"...i.e. several "pure" canddiates dividing the Tea Party vote and the TV ad blitzkrieg....it's likely Christie will get it.
     
  2. BestViewedWithCable

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    No thanks, not a christie fan.
     
  3. Karma Mechanic

    Karma Mechanic Well-Known Member

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    Ted Cruz is not popular with Republicans outside the far right wing and Rand Paul's stock has dropped considerably and his recent inability to defend his plagiarism and try to smear the person who brought it up was not Presidential.


    And as a citizen and a member of the party he has an opinion. As the recent candidate he has some influence, and as a wealthy man he can help but in the long run his opinion is not as powerful as many others. He also left off Eric Cantor and a whole host of Governors who will be strong candidates.


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    Yes Republicans choose who is next.

    There were a lot of clowns running for the nomination. All wanted to be the NOTROMNEY. The problem was that none had real traction with average voters.

    Don't be too sure about that.

    The rand and file of the GOP can do something about it. The GOP nominee is decided in Iowa in many ways. Backing a lunatic and driving a real candidate out of the race before it gets started is common in the GOP primaries, change that. Organize around a real choice. But when you flirt with Trump, Cain, Santorum, Gingrich, and Bachmann and ignore Ron Paul from the libertarian wing and moderates in general you wind up with who looks the most like a grown up.

    That is the GOP problem. They embrace crazy over Jon Huntsman or Tim Pawlenty early and then go with who they think is the most mature left standing.

    Next time will be wild though.......good luck.
     
  4. Think for myself

    Think for myself Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    In my opinion only, Romney hit the nail on the head with this one.

    Paul, and Cruz are utterly and hopelessly unelectable. They appeal to a fringe that is decidedly not part of a group that would get voters to cross party lines, and both seem to have a sever case of addicted to self promotion via stupid stunts. Reading Green Eggs and Ham on the floor of the senate and grilling the AG about domestic use of military drones targeting American citizens come to mind immediately.

    I think Christie is more along the lines of McCain in 2000, a guy that appeals to folks in both parties. Now I was not always a fan of Christie, but I think that he has demonstrated a willingness to put the good of his state ahead of adherence to party principle.
     
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    "The fix" is in?

    Evidently, the people making this claim are unaware that a lot of RWers like Chris Christie and are confident he can defeat the What Does it Matter/Whatever ticket in 2016...
     
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    Clearly, no tea MOD EDIT>>>FLAME BAIT REMOVED<<< candidate can win, so that leaves the McCain-Romney types, i.e. someone moderate.
     
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    What about a Pelosi/Schumer ticket? They could lead us to prosperity !!!
     
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    HELL NO!!!!
     
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    I'm sure you weren't a Romney fan in 2009 either. Did that matter come November 6th, 2012? :)

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    Actually, it seems apparent the RNC and the Big Money choose who is next. :)
     
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    Coincidentally, I think for the same reason....what THEY have said, and what their FATHERS say.

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    Do a poll of rightwingers....ask them how many like Chris Christie.

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    Bet you said the same thing in 2009....about Romney. Didn't you?
     
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    Correct. No to McCain. No to Romney. No to Christie. Heck, no to all RINO's.
     
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    CNN ran a poll in mid-September that had Christie leading the field for the GOP nomination in 2016 amongst Republicans and independents who lean Republican. Evidently, the denizens of Planet Prog would have us believe that the far, socially conservative right is the only faction that gets to vote in the GOP primaries. :lol:

    I've said it before and I'll say it again - Christie's going to get the nomination, and I'm confident he'll beat the What Does It Matter/Whatever ticket in 2016. Looking at how ObamaCare is going down, and with it Obama's approval rating, that cluster-foxtrot will probably be the albatross that breaks Clinton's political neck.
     
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    If it's Christie, we'd be in no better shape then when Romney or McCain ran. If you had to chose between the 2 democrats on the ballet, you'll probably pick the one with a (D) rather than an (R) if you are a democrat. Just how it works!
     
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    the far right would never vote for Chris Christie as he puts country above party
     
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    When did he switch to the Tea Party?
     
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    I would still rather have someone like Gary Johnson or even Jon Huntsman but Christie is by far the best choice between any of the names that have been floated for either party. Christie could be a leader of our country rather than the leader of one party. Of course it is always possible that the Democrats would stonewall him like the Republicans have Obama but I think that they realize the country is tired of partisan BS and would welcome a government that can work out their differences and work to resolve our problems. Christie has at least shown he can govern and make decisions that are best for his state even if they clash with his personal beliefs. He also is a candidate who has executive experience, I think this is key to being a good president.
     
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    Yes they would. They always fall in like sheep. Sure, they will whine and moan and complain, but on election day they will hit the lever they always hit. They would vote for literally anyone with an elephant next to his name. It's like crack.
     
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    Since Obama can't remain in office after 2016 without declaring martial law and setting off a civil war I think Fatso is the logical second choice for you.
     
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    Romeny is a RINO, why on Earth would he include Sens. Ted Cruz (R-Texas) and Rand Paul (R-Ky.). What did you expect from a (R) Governer from the most liberal place on earth
     
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    Yes, by far a better choice than Hillary. What is it about "Fatso's" record that you dislike so much? He has been pretty conservative for governing such a liberal state. He has held true to himself much better than your so called "true conservative" Romney when he was governor of a liberal state. It is funny that a conservative guy like Christie can be liked so well by people in both parties with the exception of the far right and far left. Just what middle America has been begging for and were duped into thinking Obama was in 2008.
     
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    People who use the word RINO remind me of the earliest use of the term "politically correct". It was used in the Soviet Union, I think in the '60s to decide who was appropriate for the party leadership. They had to hold certain views and speak in a certain manner and not be critical of the establishment. The term used on people like Orrin Hatch, Dick Lugar, now Chris Christie, was used on Bob Dole, and even John Kasich suggests a more politburo approach to GOP politics than is reality.

    Sad really.

    By the way, look for John Kasich to be on the next GOP ticket.........mark it down now.
     
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    I think part of Christie's appeal will be that he's not a raging bull(*)(*)(*)(*) artist like Barack Obama.
     
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    Dont get me wrong, Christie is a politician so he is predisposed to lie but yes, he seems far more truthful and sincere than Obama.

    I really think the GOP is poised to take control of government again. All the talk of a dead GOP and Democrats on the rise could be squashed if the cards are played properly. The Democratic party is setting in a pretty bad place that is getting more and more uncomfortable. Moderate Americans are ready to bail from the Democrats. The Republican party is in a bad place also but can place the blame on the radicals in the party and get back to a winning conversation about the economy, national debt, and overspending. If the Republicans would distance themselves from the Cruz, Paul, Bachman, Perry's of the party and put forth candidates that appeal to more than the far right, they would have some sweeping wins. Problem- Disenfranchised and fed up voters as far as the eye can see. Solution- A strong candidate who can appeal to the large swath of people in the middle, and someone who can actually walk on both sides of the isle.

    McCain and Romney were not that person, maybe Christie could be.
     
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    Who did you vote for in 2008 and 2012 then?
     
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    Look at the posts from Rightwingers on THIS THREAD who hate Christie.
     

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