Obamacare website not working on Nov 30th - Obama Lied!

Romney to me was a proven Neo-Con and a war monger, and on his foreign policy I wouldn't elect him.(This is the dude that would've antagonized Turkey for DARING, say daring to have national confrontations with Israel). With Romney, we attack Syria whether Syria agreed to Putin's proposal or not. Of that, I'm convinced.

But if Romney accepted a government office position like say "Manager of Economics/Social Development", I would give him that post. He's just not an effective Commander in Chief.

In Sun Tzu's Art of War, we're taught how to sheath the sword as the most effective move you can make. A move Neo-Cons don't even want to bother to understand.

 

What you are seeing is what happens when a cult's deepest held beliefs are clearly contradicted by reality, it's what happens to an end of the world cult, the day the world was supposed to end. Rather than accept that their belief system may be a tad faulty, they dig in and cling to every shred that may save their belief.

The GOP followers were told that ObamaCare would never work, that it would be dismantled before it ever took effect.
But the people actually lying were the GOP cult leaders, lying to their followers, because frankly they have no respect for the rank and file, they are just there to be used. Well ObamaCare is going into full implementation, and it is going to work, and every glitch and hic-cup will be heralded by the cult as "proof" that ObamaCare is a "massive train wreck". But it's not. The cost curve has been bent, and experts believe that ObamaCare was largely responsible for that. The website will be fixed, large complicated websites do have bugs, and they do get worked out.
Even if the website is a little kludgey, people can still sign up by phone or by mail.
And thousands of people have signed up using the website.
Expect the website to be overwhelmed on the last day to sign up and have coverage take effect Jan 1. Expect the website to be overwhelmed on the last day to sign up and avoid paying the penalty for being uninsured.
And with every glitch and hiccup expect a chorus of "Obama Lied" from some people who's world view is once again taking a serious beating from reality.

 

Under Obama, twice the troops died in Afghanistan in half the time than under Bush. Take your prized Sun Tzu's practicing Imbecile-in-Chief where the sun does not shine, Mr. Expert on foreign affairs.

 

What do you think is gonna happen in a month for Americans to start praising Obama? Will the cost of policies decrease to here it was 2 months ago? Will deductibles or out of pocket costs will go down? Ah yes, all these millions of "canceled" Americans will find new insurance for the same money they used to pay, and will start to love and praise the moron?

 

Between my name 'American Nationalist', criticisms of Obama and I don't know how you could possibly insulate that I approve of the President's foreign policy. He's only done two things right, and that's giving Israel the middle finger it so justly deserves and he's FINALLY, finally paid attention to the Pacific after ignoring it for so long.

Despite the fact that our country harbors the Pacific Ocean!

He's lucky the situation didn't escalate any further in his ignoring of the tensions in that region. And even still, by not giving Japan a commitment, he's allowed China to continue to flaunt its military strength.

And I find it ever so hilarious that you'll go "Bush had less deaths than Obama in Afghanistan", as if that's an accomplishment. Maybe that's because Obama's committed more resources TO Afghanistan, which by the way I despise.(Very recently, we just heard of a 10 year+(Ad infinite) deal given to the Afghans.

With only a slight National twist, Obama's copied the playbook almost play for play. It's one of my greatest disappointments. If you think Obama has exercised patience in warfare, you clearly forgot how he sent ships up to Syria and basically told Congress their authority wasn't necessary, but it would be good political clout if he did.

 

Obama being caught in dozens of lies has them a bit on edge. They don't mind voting for a lying scoundrel (they are Democrats after all) but they mind having it pointed out to them.

 

So finishing what the village idiot GWB failed to do a decade earlier makes Obama a bad president?

I laugh at all the lame right-wing arguments. The GOP fails domestically and abroad, and they have the balls to criticize our current president? Please.

 

What Is Obama "finishing" ?

 

ROFLMAO @ the histrionics, race-baiting and obvious lies in this post.

Even St Limbaugh would think this over-the-top.

 

I find it amusing that the plan was developed to have more people insured, it took the brilliance of the White House to un-insure a half million people practically over night.

Now that's change......

 

Why is it even news that Obama lied? Someone might as well make a thread titled "Obama breathes." Obama lies about as often as he breathes - or plays golf. Or lies about his golf score. I guess Obama has to breathe while lying about his golf score. Heck, Maybe "Obama lied" should be a sticky in this forum, or even part of the PF.com banner!

 

And I find it funny that the statement in the title was dated Novembere 28. . .and was talking about November 30!

Duh!

By the way. . .NO ONE has yet lost their insurance. .. they got noticed that they will lose it in January. . .another case of "ESP" or is it simply fear mongering?

I wonder how many of those people would have received a notice ANYWAY, as so many of us have over the year, when our employer decided to switch insurance to different providers. . .(i.e., from Cigna to Blue Cross), or when our insurance decided not to renew the contract with our doctor and we received a notice that we should either change doctor to one covered by the insurance, or we would have to pay a much higher co-payment!

Listening to the fear monger in this forum and on some of the media. . . this is the first time EVER that anyone has been told they didn't have a choice but to change insurance plan!

Most of the insurance (if not all!) that were dropped because of Obamacare weren't REALLY insuring anything anyway. . .but only people who got sick knew that they were ONLY covered as long as they were healthy. . .and once they got into a real health issue. . .they would be dropped for one reason or another!

There is so much hypocrisy around this issue that it is sickening! Thank God. . .I do have health care!

 

And I see that, once again, you see nothing wrong with a comment that is insulting to EVERYONE of the Democrats in this forum, in spite of the rules!

"They don't mind voting for a lying scoundrel (they are Democrats after all) but they mind having it pointed out to them."

Or should we take this rule literally… and "Insulting groups" only refer to groups that include ONLY REPUBLICANS, but when the group that is being insulted is ONLY DEMOCRATS, the rule doesn't apply?

Interesting!

 

I guess republicans lie..

 

HYPOCRISY?,,,how's that? He did cause those cancellations to go out, the hypocrisy would be with those that say,,,ahhh no big deal..

Sure when it's not happening to Obama and company, easy for them to say,,,THAT'S HYPOCRISY.,,,

 

I rarely Mod most of the threads I am on, same as others,,you are aware of this I presume? Look, it is not personal, I do not think they did a very good job, either does most of the United States. Why get upset with over half the country just because they disagree with you? I am not upset with you, you can buy all the Obama care you like,,,course it may take a while..

I hear they screwed it up pretty bad....

 

Are you saying that in all your career, you have never been faced with a FORCED change in your insurance, either insurance provider, or doctor because of the changes the same insurance made?

I certainly have faced those changes. . .SEVERAL times. And I am still alive, and there was NO BREAK in my insurance.

How many people have ALREADY lost their insurance as of today because their insurance plan didn't meet the minimum standards laid out by Obamacare to HELP get rid of "fake" sense of security?

I don't believe that ONE person has "lost their insurance!" Merely, they have been notified that, their insurance as they knew it, would no longer exist after January 1st. . .but that other options (yes, some more costly . . . but also more thorough!) would be available.

THOSE are the facts.

Denying that is fear mongering.

 

The silly website is the least of their problems. It's websites like this Dems need to be worried about.

http://mycancellation.com/

Can somebody tell me exactly what it is Obamacare is going to do for us that cost taxpayers $2.6 TRILLION? It would nearly make sense if every single American was covered by UHC for that price. But all we've gotten so far is a bum website and a bunch of regulations nobody understands! Where's the money going???

 

Not all but some did I'm sure, racism is not very selective, it's an equal opportunity employer...

 

Oh, get a grip, Sadanie. The topic is Obamacare, not your feelings.

Like you, I've still got my health insurance, so let the rest of 'em eat cake,huh?

 

Those ''facts'' are what others feel they should accept, Obama and company's idea of Insurance insuring things they neither want or need. Telling those people,,Oh we know better when they themselves are not forced into this plan is outrageously hypocritical. This is I guess what they should expect from a bold face Liar like our President.

Had he been honest with just one of the many things lied about this ''mess'' would not have even gotten off the ground.

 

And I disagree that Obamacare is a failure. The website was a failure, and is being fixed. . as much as websites that complex ever get fixed!

It isn't the first "major change" to help people that has a rough beginning. . . but I know you are aware of that. Social Security, Medicare. . .they didn't start as "big success" from one day to the next, not even from one year to the next!

And yet today. . .you know what would bring a GREATER outcry than Obamacare? If the tea party started to talk about getting rid of either one of those programs.

Now. . .Obamacare was NEVER met to be the "final product" in the health care restructuring. . .I am sorry the Republicans so unanimously rejected a Public Option. . .but at the end, that is what we will get to.

If Medicare was extended to ANYONE of ANY AGE who wants to join, at a price that is three times what people over 65 are paying today. . . it would provide not only REAL competition for the "profit making health insurance big business," but it would also resolve the problem of medicare . . .because instead of insuring ONLY the very sick, the disabled, the very poor and the very old, many would flock to it. . .and the AVERAGE per capita cost of Medicare would be higher, but everyone would have a chance to be insured (either through medicare OR through a private insurance, or a combination of both. . .as it exists today for people over 65 who choose to have a "supplemental insurance," and medicare would be solvent for ever, because younger population would compensate for the cost of caring for the elderly and the disabled.

But, obviously, that would be too simple. . .and the "big business" greed has paid enough money to their supporters in Congress to keep that from happening. . . YET! Have you ever wonder why Private insurance REFUSES to cover people INSTEAD of Medicare? They're happy to cover elderly and disabled IN ADDITION to Medicare (supplemental insurance costs about 2 to 2 ½ time more than Medicare premiums, but covers ONLY 20% of the cost!)? BECAUSE THEY ARE NOT INTERESTED IN COVERING the elderly and the disabled.. . .

Now.. . .why do you think that is? And if not the "government," who else do you think would agree to it?

 

It's called screwing the middle class and doing the exact same thing we said this man would do,,,transferring the wealth. It would seem every argument we posed about the election of this fellow has come to pass, actually it's worse. One thing for sure, it sure has stimulated many a grouchy people, including Obama's own.

 

You're ignoring the fact that MANY AMERICANS CAN'T AFFORD THEIR NEW & IMPROVED HEALTHCARE INSURANCE!

Unless that problem is addressed, the entire program is a massive failure. Unless driving people to bankruptcy was the plan in the first place.

 

CANT AFFORD???,,,CANT AFFORD???,,,NOPE, OBAMA has that covered, THEY MUST afford it or get fined.....

Sounds perfectly fair to me......