A question for the libertarians

Unregulated corporations have proven they have no interest in creating jobs in the United States. Their ONLY motivation is to maximize profits for their CEO's and then, as an afterthought, for their stockholders. That included externalizing costs whereever possible. If that means turning the planet into a trash heap then so be it. Yeah, GREAT philosophy you have there.

 

... Goons with guns, frankly mankind never had less poverty starvation or disease or violence then in the paleolithic era, food for thought, the downfall of the agricultural revolution is the violent sociopathic entity know known as government. The power of innovation became prevalent and so people also looked to exploit that power. Its easier to steal and exploit then it is to farm.

 

And the enforcers would never become authoritarian and abuse their power?

 

Yes, and how do they get their money from us?

What corporations are harming you, specifically? Who cares if they ship some jobs overseas if no one wants to work at them here for the prevailing wage?

By the way, natural gas, made available by a vibrant private sector, is doing more for reducing carbon emissions in America then Kyoto did in Europe. Obama is blocking it, pushing energy production into dirtier alternatives. Are you sure government is the best suited to keep us clean?

 

That's a bit like saying that car brakes hasn't done much good. Think of all the possible idiotic revolutions that could have killed plenty more peopole, but didn't because of conservatism.

Interesting.

 

Voting only for your own economic interest is not a sign of being ill-informed, it's a sign of being a sociopath.

My point was the votes of people who have failed to become informed or are simply idiots have less impact through the process of gerrymandering (by both parties). You seem to restate that assertion immediately after suggesting it's not true.



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oh, a straw man! yaaaay! So typical, well, whatever you are.

 

An ignorant, deluded philosophy is still a philosophy. Whether it is in fact deluded and ignorant is a matter of opinion. You're entitled to yours, I'm entitled to disagree with yours.

 

Yet, during this past century, the US economy was at its strongest and most prosperous level when union membership was at its peak.

 

Only when conservatives are elected.

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Can I quote you as an example of the kind of people being talked about in the previous post?

 

Statism is authoritarian. "Left" "right" "Liberal" "Conservative" are just shades of telling other people what to do, how to think, and hurting them when they don't obey.

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Which is what you get with a state.
Freedom isn't perfect (and it's not all about markets as you might think), but why is having rulers beneficial to any but those that are favored by the rulers?

 

In my district, warfare is the main economic interest. The more war and destruction rained upon other nations, the better off the people around me are, and, by extension, I am. Should I vote for more war? Is that the liberal policy now? Vote for what's good for my pocketbook?

And here I thought you were against greed. I wish you'd make up your mind.

 

Drone strikes, NSA surveillance, recess appointments -- Obama. And there's a long list of liberals, socialists, and assorted nut jobs from the left side of the aisle that have done worse throughout history.



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Sure that post of mine was excellent. Feel free to emulate.

 

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The liberal (intelligent) thing to do in your case would be to move to an area where acting in your own best interests in the short term does not compromise your long time well being. Or anyone else's.

 

Obama is NOT a liberal regardless of what FAUX News tells you. They just say that because Republicans can't win elections without LYING. Fact is Obama is a right leaning moderate aka an old school Republican. No REAL Democrat would repeatedly offer to slash Medicare and Social Security.

 

Obama is an old school Republican who supports gay marriage and got rid of don't-ask-don't-tell? Whose name is on the largest single entitlement in U.S. history (socialized medicine)? A Republican who ran as the Democratic parties candidate for President?

... and as far winning elections without lying, didn't Obama promise us that we could keep our current doctors and medical plans if we wanted to? Period?

It's the Democrats who consistently stand up and promise us something for nothing, then fail to deliver. McCain, Romney, they told us there would be sacrifice to fix the economy. We elected the guy who said he could reduce spending to Medicare without slashing (or reducing at all) it's benefits — Obama. (and yea, he lied about that too).



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pot/kettle...lol.

 

Is Obama a conservative? Because, he took the DHS, Patriot Act, and NDAA provisions, which were created by and bad enough under the Bush administration and ramped them up on steroids, along with the following executive order, for example.


http://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press...order-national-defense-resources-preparedness

Also, what about bragging about plans on ruling with exective order during the state of the union speech?

 

Obama is a right leaning moderate who caves into conservatives on a regular basis while pretending to be for the people. He's an old school Republican. ANY time you hear ANYbody talk about cutting Medicare and Social Secutity in some kind of "grand bargain" with the right they are NOT liberals. Regardless of what anybody says. Including them. PERIOD. END OF STORY!

 

He's a right leaning moderate? There is nothing right leaning about him. When does he cave in to conservatives? If anything, Republicans who gullible conservatives believe are conservatives for merely being Republicans cave in to Obama's big government agendas all the time. These Republicans are not conservative and are not right leaning, nor is Obama. As far as social security goes, people should be able to choose their own retirement investments. The real reason for social security is to have the money tied up in Washington for the politicians to spend.

 

Here is a perfect example.

House Passes ‘Clean’ Debt Ceiling Increase, Without Conditions – Here Are the 28 Republicans Who Voted for It
http://www.theblaze.com/stories/201...an-debt-ceiling-increase-without-conditions/#