Kobe Bryant Slammed For Refusing to Back Trayvon Martin

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  1. Hummingbird

    Hummingbird Well-Known Member

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    I don't. If a person is wrong or says something stupid, I won't defend it and don't care what party he/she belongs to. For me, it's a matter of principle.......

    That's why I'm not a dem or repub, but an Independent w/Conservative values......

    Kudos to Bryant for doing his own thinking and not playing follow the leader........
     
  2. superbadbrutha

    superbadbrutha Banned

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    So I guess that means the Miami Heat jumped to conclusions since they supported Trayvon Martin.
     
  3. Hummingbird

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    Same here.......
     
  4. Levon

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    Exactly.......we are making progress here SuperBad....
     
  5. Brewskier

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    Kobe's gonna (*)(*)(*)(*) off a lot of Laker fans, LOL.

    Blacks see themselves as a nation within a nation. They identify with and advocate for their own racial self interests. That's why Kobe is going to be attacked for this, because he stepped out of line. Whites are the only people encouraged not to think this way.
     
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    It's interesting to see some of the same people here giving Kobe kudos for thinking independently, would be the same people grouping him as "a typical black", "thug", or "12% of the population, et. al" if he got into trouble. Tiger sure found that out the hard way.....
     
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    Had Trayvon been white, folks like you would want Zimmerman's head on a platter.
     
  8. Brewskier

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    We can talk hypotheticals all day. What we know is that Trayvon was black and his attacker was not, and many if not most blacks supported Trayvon just for that reason alone.
     
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    ^^^^ 100% Correct.
     
  10. Hummingbird

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    I don't care what color skin the person has. If someone doesn't follow the mantra about a situation, but prefers to look at the facts himself and make up his own mind, refusing to be pressured from others b/c of race, religion or whatever - then more power to him. I respect that.

    Tiger Woods situation was something entirely different......
     
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    Nope, don't support thug behavior whether said thug is black or white.
     
  12. Serfin' USA

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    Kobe seems pretty levelheaded. He's not manipulated by race, and he's also logical enough to support gay rights.
     
  13. HTownMarine

    HTownMarine Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Dude is super smart. Raised in Spain, he speaks Spanish on the court so him and Gasol can converse without the other team hearing what they say.

    Because he was raised in Spain, he hasn't become corrupted by the American Black culture and, thus, thinks for himself. That's what has gotten him into hot water with the black community now.
     
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    Ex-lib Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Yes, Kobe Bryant is correct.

    Liberalism is a self-deluded disease.
     
  15. Serfin' USA

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    I don't think it's fair to suggest all blacks are part of the same culture. However, I would agree that he hasn't been tainted by the negative parts of certain black subcultures.

    Unfortunately, a lot of people have kneejerk reactions concerning the Trayvon case. Granted, if they actually looked at the facts of the case closer, I think more people would take Zimmerman's side.

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    He's actually liberal on certain topics like gay rights. He just isn't a collectivist.

    Liberalism and individualism aren't mutually exclusive.
     
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    a rapist and a scholar. he would have been a great founding father.
     
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    The trouble is, the group called 'gays', just like the group called 'tennis players' don't HAVE rights as a group. That is an invention of the left.

    For what it's worth, when the Constitution speaks of discrimination by sex, it means 'gender', not 'sexual preference'.

    Just to be nice to gays, they should be allowed all that they want, but not because they have rights as a group. That is an urban legend.

    Of course, whether they should be allowed to use the name 'marriage' for their unions, should be up to the voters and not the judges.
     
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    That's right! Thugs come in different colors, sizes and age........
     
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    I think they ARE, aren't they? Of course no one is a 100% dyed-in-the-wool Liberal. Maybe THAT'S what you're thinking?
     
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    Kobe Bryant? How do you figure that?
     
  21. Serfin' USA

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    Sexual orientation isn't a fully protected class yet, but the reason for the rising possibility that it will be one is due to the abuses of both the past and present.

    It wasn't that long ago that various Western nations treated homosexuality as a mental illness, for example. In other cases, homosexual sex was considered a crime.

    Nowadays, it's pretty clear that gays are targeted by people for abuse. The abuses aren't as bad here as they are in many other countries (like Russia), but there's still a lot of room for improvement.

    There would be no push for gay rights if many religious people didn't target them. The WBC was an extreme example of this, but there are plenty of more subtle examples out there.
     
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    Uh, your statement bears NO resemblance to reality!

    Many people support punishment for someone who shoots an unarmed teenager who was walking home from the store after stalking that teenager and the shooter self-admittedly failing to identify himself as any kind of "authority" or "neighborhood guardian".

    And not only was the shooter NOT punished, he was sent home that very same night with no bail and assurance of no charges.

    The perception that those police would NOT have treated Trayvon the same if the roles were reversed is why many blacks and others interested in justice "back" Trayvon.
     
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    Thomas Jefferson was a liberal. So was Benjamin Franklin.

    Liberalism isn't a monolithic entity, and it varies by both cultural context and era.
     
  24. HTownMarine

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    Because some girl managed to sneak past a guard in the lobby, and a guard at his hotel room door, then managed to sneak into Kobe's room to be "raped" as she claimed.

    Anybody believing Kobe Bryant was so fired up he had to rape a girl...

    He did cheat on his wife. That much is undeniable, but so have other athletes, presidents, music legends, etc...
     
  25. Brewskier

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    Nice try dave. This story got not attention at all.

    Unarmed man gets shot, suspect not charged and is released the same night. I wonder what's different?

    Just face up to reality. You guys had a story that you thought involved a racist white guy with a legal CCW permit shooting a poor defenseless black kid, and by the time you realized the facts, you were already too invested to back away.
     

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