People on Welfare Are NOT Lazy

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  1. munter

    munter New Member

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    I have other people working for me. Usually men vying for my sexual favors, all total dorks of course.

    Quite amusing really, to see how these supposed 'right wing heroes' , actually throw money away in the vain hope of attaining female attention.
     
  2. Hoosier8

    Hoosier8 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You start somewhere to end somewhere. If you don't start, then you don't end. I started in a car wash washing cars before they had automatic washers or even mechanized brushes. I have worked in restaurants, swept floors, banded waste paper. I now work for a global company directing, writing, and maintaining their software. All of that without any education in it. All of those years I gain more in social security than someone that will take no pride in themselves.

    That is the problem with the current generation, they want everything handed to them on a platter. They are spoiled brats. Life does not work that way.
     
  3. OldRetiredGuy

    OldRetiredGuy New Member Past Donor

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    Sweet. Quite the prizewinner, aren't we?
     
  4. munter

    munter New Member

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    Works for me, and actually brings in around 50K/year - so why would I even consider scrubbing a toilet - no way, that is for the losers.
     
  5. saintmichaeldefendthem

    saintmichaeldefendthem New Member Past Donor

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    What a deplorable upbringing you must have had to look down upon honest labor as beneath you and "for losers". Ashton Kutcher has more character than you and young people are listening to his message that a job is worthwhile and all labor is worthy of respect. I didn't need Ashton Kutcher to teach me that, I had my dad.

    Where was your dad?
     
  6. JavisBeason

    JavisBeason New Member

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    so you admittedly live beyond your means, expect the people who do work to supply you with extra money they don't need so you can have fun and a car.... and you don't think you're lazy?



    However, I don't think ALL welfare recipients are lazy like I think you are. some are out of work through no fault of their own, they are disabled, and are actively cutting back on luxuries while they search for a new job.


    if you don't want to work so you can spend time with your kids.... knock your self out. But it's when you expect me to finance that free time so you don't have to work is when you cross the line from 'down on your luck' to 'lazy'

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    youth is fleeting.... if your skill set is sexual attraction... what's your back up plan for when that disappears?
     
  7. malignant

    malignant New Member

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    Your problem with me seems to be my honesty. If I hadn't taken the time to tell you, or maybe brought it up in a different light (lied to you), it seems you wouldn't have a problem with me. I guess that's why so many people either don't admit it, or actively lie about it. Don't reinforce these lies by chastising the people who are honest, why not become more critical of those that are not.
     
  8. JavisBeason

    JavisBeason New Member

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    intent is key.


    Welfare's intent was noble and necessary. What welfare has become is you.


    my ex-wife had the same mentality.... failed to gain a skillset of any noted value, then had the nerve to think "I'm too good to work min wage so I'll use my kid as my excuse"


    There's a reason I live in a nice house with a pool/sauna, have multiple vehicles and still spend vast amounts of time with my kid at all the extra sports activities I can afford him, all while working 40 hours a week, while you live in rent controlled squalor and surround your kids with bad influences while swimming in a community pool and green hottub.

    Because I know you don't spend anymore time with kiddo who's in school, than I do.


    You see, where you were worried about a good time in your 18-25 year old range, I was busy making myself more marketable. I chose a career that revolved around me working while my future kids were in shcool (so no lost time)

    your 'more time' argument is bunk as I spend just as much, if not more time with my kids as you.

    Enjoy section 8
     
  9. MegadethFan

    MegadethFan Well-Known Member

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    It's always 'the current generation' isn't it? :rolleyes:
     
  10. SMDBill

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    That's the entitlement mentality right there. I personally own a cleaning company and my wife works it daily. I work it occasionally when I'm off work from my 6-figure paying job, and yes, I mean doing the actual cleaning work all the way down to scrubbing toilets. No work is below any of us and we make quite a nice supplemental income cleaning the very toilets so many refuse to clean because they feel it is beneath them.

    I seriously loathe those who would look down on someone based on their occupation. We have customers who assume we are poor or struggling because they have no idea what I do for a living. They see us as servants who rely heavily upon the money they so graciously give to us for the privilege of cleaning their toilet. I personally couldn't care less what they think and I've raised my children to understand how difficult it is in this country's rapidly waning economy, and that any work is better than no work if it can be found. We took it upon ourselves to build a business from a few hundred dollars' investment and now we reap the rewards of our "toilet scrubbing" that is beneath so many entitlement-deserving folks. And we've employed 2 others in the process who are grateful for those dirty toilets. I suppose that makes me a proud "loser" and I quietly giggle when others just assume we're losers who clean toilets.

    It's always nice to see the faces of customers when they have to stop by my home to drop off a check they forgot to leave for us or to return something we may have inadvertently left behind. It's the same reaction every time when they realize we're not quite what they thought we were, and it changes their perception of "losers" who clean toilets.
     
  11. JavisBeason

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    I agree with your statement... every generation has been marked as lazy by the previous one.


    But Hoosier has a point you are conveniently avoiding....if you sit here and think you are owed a 6 figure salary, and refuse to work hard or educate, or increase your skillset.... you will forever make min wage thinking you are owed 6 figures, even if you are 35 still making min wage.


    and lazy people occur in every generation. OP is a prime example for his/her generation
     
  12. MegadethFan

    MegadethFan Well-Known Member

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    Can't think there are many people that think like that and have had a stable background or upbringing.

    Definitely agree with you there.
     
  13. JavisBeason

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    best post award of 2014......

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    OP shows that mindset..... I don't know his/her background in how they were raised..... but I'm sure the mindset is quite prevalent in the section 8 communities around America
     
  14. MegadethFan

    MegadethFan Well-Known Member

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    What are section 8 communities and other than opinion do you have proof for that claim regarding intent and motivation?
     
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    junius. fils New Member

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    Interesting post. Was it supposed to be relevant - to anything?
     
  16. JavisBeason

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    the op....

    the "certain jobs are beneath me" or "my boss sits in an office, I'm the one doing the grunt work he doesn't want to, he should pay me more"


    if you are a lifetime resident of section 8.... you have made some pretty poor life decisions previously.... FAQCKT
     
  17. MegadethFan

    MegadethFan Well-Known Member

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    That's a section 8 community?

    Not necessarily. You may have never had a chance to begin with or be the broken bitter victim of circumstance.
     
  18. JavisBeason

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    I was a bitter victim of circumstance.... when I couldn't find a job. I fell back on my education, and even made myself more marketable during my underemployment time of 18 months,.... so you read that right... on top of my car note and house note that still kept getting billed, despite being working for 1/2 the pay, I sitll managed to find money in order to get more certifications in a career I wasn't even working in.


    Even at my lowest point, working a 10$ hour job for 18 months... I didn't have to section 8 it, nor did I have to take one govt dime. I tightened my belt, I sacrificed stuff I liked doing because I couldn't afford to both eat and do the activity. (this is when people refuse to stop doing the activity, and then expect taxpayer to feed them. I mean heck, I could have continued my fun hobbies if I didn't have to buy my food....., but I made a sacrifice)

    I didn't have my education handed to me or paid for.... I'm still paying loans back. But I'd rather pay 200$ a month for life in order to make double what I would make without an education.



    The sob story of "I couldn't help it, it wasn't my fault I have 4 kids, 3 baby daddies and can't hold a regular job" is bogus. The system isn't broke, your life choices are.


    I made a bad life choice between 2000-2011 by not improving my value within my field. When I changed districts and couldn't find another job... I all of a sudden realized, I had to take a long hard self-evaluation of my situation. I could then choose to blame my last job, the boss I left because of, the system.... or I could buckle down and improve myself. it's not my fault if others don't have that work ethic.
     
  19. MegadethFan

    MegadethFan Well-Known Member

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    Oh I get it, so everyone on welfare has the same life path and background as you - they're just all lazy. Yeah that makes perfect sense :rolleyes:
     
  20. JavisBeason

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    everyone can make good or bad choices.... some make bad ones, then expect others to support them.



    Some use it as a help-me-back-up
    some, like the OP and whoever the mendes chick that prostitutes herself out on this thread does, that uses welfare as a "society owes me"


    the latter are the ones that I rail against. You know, the ones that say "I need govment monies because my babies is .... hold on, let me light up my cigarette, where was I, oh yeah, my babies is hungry and I can't feed them working at McDonalds"
     
  21. MegadethFan

    MegadethFan Well-Known Member

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    Sure but the question is how many people does this description fit? 15% of welfare supportees or just 15 people? You tell me.
    My question is how do you know who these people are? Without knowing you are collectively punishing welfare recipients.
     
  22. malignant

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    That's the rub. Perhaps if we paid a higher minimum wage people like me would be driven to work. Perhaps if we just get rid of the social safety net, and then we could find out who needed it by how many people died.
     
  23. Hoosier8

    Hoosier8 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    No, my parents generation did not expect to be handed a good paying job just because they felt they deserved it. My generation started that and it is worse today.
     
  24. MegadethFan

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    Pretty rugged but possible.
     
  25. MegadethFan

    MegadethFan Well-Known Member

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    Yeah back in the old days of world wars the world was so much nicer.
     

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