Gangster State America: Where Is America’s Democracy?

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    Edition of Foreign Policy Journal unmask the false democracy USA. Excellent article. Intelligent man shows how the U.S. media lie. Debunks myths propaganda against Russia. Tells how the U.S. media is transmute of U.S. population in stupid and docile sheeps.
    U.S. announce their war crimes - the fight against terrorists. Washington to set up a state of war for the suppression of civil liberties in the United States . In the 21st century it is difficult to find a significant statement made by Washington , which would not be a lie. Obama's health care reform lies. Weapons of mass destruction Iraq lies. Using Assad chemical weapons lie. Iranian nuclear bomb lies. Invasion and annexation of the Crimea Russia lie. No-fly zone (meaning NATO intervention in Libya in 2011) lie. Russia's aggression against Georgia lie. 9/11 , Washington used to destroy civil liberties and illegal military operations themselves are false . A fantastic story about how some Saudis without government or intelligence agencies deceived the entire national security apparatus of the Western world , is incredible.
    (I myself first felt censorship, only visiting American Forum.)
    Link to many other interesting facts. http://www.foreignpolicyjournal.com/2014/05/07/gangster-state-america-where-is-americas-democracy/
     
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    Do you think maybe the Nobel folks should ask for their Peace Prize back?

    Behold the fruits of electing a Chicago Democrat to national office.
     
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    I remember Nixon said - show me though one successful country-led black. The Nobel Committee - a branch of the CIA. Promise to start a war, and you'll presented to the Nobel Peace Prize.
     
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    compared to the drunken cesspool of authoritarian police-state Russia, the USA is Valhalla.
     
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    (laughs) You think that the smarter Dr. Paul Craig Roberts? You have delusions of grandeur. You need to calm down and learn the Russian language. By the way, you swore in allegiance a new fatherland? If the United States will have difficulties, you swear allegiance to another fatherland?
     
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    Interesting is a gross understatement imo. It's an extremely important and timely academic piece. One cannot understand the truth as to what's happening in Ukraine without the context. This piece contributes greatly to that understanding.
     
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    What do you know of Russia, except that content of the cesspool created by corporation owned media?
     
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    lol!!! he's an insane, paranoid conspiraty theorist.

    :roflol:
     
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    Sure, if articles full of lies, distortions, gratuitous assertions and mere opinion are your cup of meat. The author does make a few valid points, but for the most part it doesn't rise above the level of entertaining garbage...:lol:
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    Yes, but shouldn't those who proclaim the merits of liberal democracy the most live up to their rhetoric rather than racing towards the bottom?
    The American public has been subjected to a ceaseless barrage of pro-imperialist propaganda by a servile media. The fascist thugs of the Right Sector and Svoboda are portrayed as crusaders for democracy; Russia is cast as a powerful imperialist bully bent on conquest; and Washington and NATO are depicted as selfless defenders of small nations.

    Further, the initial violent coup led by right-wing and fascist parties and orchestrated by Washington and its allies, was disingenuously portrayed as a mass popular democratic uprising. What the following academic piece http://www.informationclearinghouse....ticle38441.htm illustrates is that the context underpinning the crisis in Ukraine, and the role the servile media plays in misinforming the public and therefore helping to perpetuate the said crisis, cannot be fully understood without taking the factors described into account.

    It is true that the Putin government rests upon a corrupt layer of oligarchs who enriched themselves by looting state property after the dissolution of the Soviet Union. However what is solidly underplayed in the media is the fact that he is confronted by a relentless threat from US and European imperialism from a position of weakness. This is the point Seamus Milne makes in the Guardian article I cited, namely that Putin's position is defensive rather than offensive.

    While resorting to military maneuvers and appealing to Great Russian chauvinism, Putin is nevertheless desperately seeking some means of accommodation with Washington. But US imperialism has shown no desire for a compromise. Having steadily encircled Russia with military bases, a missile shield and the transformation of former Soviet bloc countries into NATO members, it is determined to eliminate Moscow as even a regional rival and turn Russia into a semi-colony.

    The truth often overlooked in relation to this crisis is that the underlying cause behind the unrest is the contradictory position of Ukraine's ruling class. Former president Yanukovich represented the section of Ukrainian capital in the industrial belt that remains tied to Russian markets, while the former opposition parties -- Tymoshenko's Fatherland and Vitali Klitschko's "Punch" -- represent the western oligarchs who see their future within the European Union.

    In both instances the different sections of the ruling class have sought to align themselves with a social base. The western oligarchs pretend to represent workers' democratic aspirations and appeal to Ukrainian nationalism, while in the eastern belt oligarchs claim to be protecting both Russian minority interests and industrial workers from the "market". The losers in this game of imperial chess are the mass of poor people of Ukraine.
     
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    So, in addition to being a conspiracy theorist, you're also a racist...
     
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    Hilarious propaganda, trout.

    Perhaps the only humorous aspects of this whole episode between Russia and Ukraine is how Leftists such as Milne have come running to the defense of their old comrades in the former Soviet Union.

    Obviously, Milne has been drinking the paranoid Kool-Aid that Vlad the Invader's propaganda bullhorns have been brewing to whip up war hysteria in Russia and legitimize his revanchist aggression. :roll:
     
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    Talk about not knowing America, using the term gangster Americ proves how out of touch and Russian you are. Enjoy your third world country.
     
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    This thread is funny, as it originates from the Third-World of Europe.
     
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    It's always tempting to view the situation from a partisan and Manichean perspective. However, real life is is more nuanced and complex than how you are depicting it.
     
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    And it appears that Milne and some of his partisan comrades have succumbed to that temptation.

    Sometimes there's not more to real life than meets the eye, my friend. On the other hand, I must admit that I find it surreal in the extreme to be witnessing and reliving the same (*)(*)(*)(*) that went down in 2008 when Putin instigated his revanchist aggression in Georgia. It's déjà vu all over again...
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    Like I said, one cannot fully grasp the current situation without acknowledging the historical context that gave rise to it:

    http://www.informationclearinghouse....ticle38441.htm

    Your particular narrative is distorted beyond any realms of objective truth.
     
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    LOL - Milne's narrative is a farce, trout. He's stinking drunk on the Kremlin's Kool-Aid. When he sobers up I'll reassess his credibility, which is hovering around nonexistent right now. ;)
     
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    Ok Talon forget Milne's piece. That's not really the issue. Some of it I agree with, other bits I don't. I was hoping you would address the wider issues that I discussed here:

    Post 13:

    http://www.politicalforum.com/showth...post1063868997
     
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    (laughs) My dear tolerant friend, I'm not a racist. Racist American president. Despite the fact that you are from North Carolina, it would be necessary to know the history of their country. In a June 14, 1973 Oval Office meeting with Anne Armstrong, counselor to the president, Nixon said black people couldn't run Jamaica. "Blacks can’t run it. Nowhere, and they won’t be able to for a hundred years, and maybe not for a thousand. … Do you know, maybe one black country that’s well run?" You can listen to the original. http://www.nixonlibrary.gov/forresearchers/find/tapes/tape940/940-015b.mp3
    Кроме того, Nixon was not very enlightened when it came to racial and ethnic minorities. Take a phone call with Henry Kissinger on April 19, 1973 about an upcoming U.S.-Soviet summit. Nixon was concerned someone would cause problems, and if they did, they would pay for it, he said: "Let me say, Henry, it's gonna be the worst thing that happened to Jews in American history."
    Nixon continued, "If they torpedo this summit — and it might go down for other reasons — I'm gonna put the blame on them, and I'm going to do it publicly at 9 o'clock at night before 80 million people." ("I agree completely," Kissinger, who is Jewish, said. "They brought it on themselves.") Then Nixon really got going about the Jews. "I won't mind one (*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*) but to have a little anti-Semitism if it's on that issue," the president says. "They put the Jewish interest above America's interest and it's about (*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*) time that the Jew in America realizes he's an American first and a Jew second."
    http://www.nixonlibrary.gov/forresearchers/find/tapes/tape038/038-114.mp3
    Amazing you people. Do not know the history of their country, but trying to talk about international affairs. I am Russian, and I have to teach you the history of the United States. Very funny.
     
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    Not corporate owned media...LIBERAL OWNED MEDIA.
     
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    By the way...this is what you get when a community organizer from Chicago who was born in Kenya is ?elected? president...twice.
     

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