Costing YOU Over $3 Million!

Discussion in 'Current Events' started by longknife, May 11, 2014.

  1. Yosh Shmenge

    Yosh Shmenge New Member

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    I agree. The notion that it cost more for Bush to stay at this ranch than it cost to fly Obama, then the wife and kids, and then the dog, to
    some ritzy resort (and then book every single available room) is even more complete BS.
     
  2. Troianii

    Troianii Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I'm not a fan, but this outrage over the cost of a vacation is overdone. The flight, if I remember right, costs something like $180k/hr. Obviously its not the same as a commercial plane, nor do we want it to be. And racking up high costs with it is nothing new.

    http://content.usatoday.com/communities/theoval/post/2012/05/air-force-one-air-fare-179750-per-hour/1#.U2_UTPldWPY
     
  3. Dutch

    Dutch Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I'll address your two Obama's achievements as impartially as I can...

    Obama did not kill Bin Laden. In fact, the gutsy call was made by someone else and during the raid itself, Obama was not in the situation room but playing with Mr. Love.

    With respect to Obama's AQ achievements, you have to be specific. Are you referring to an AQ resurrection in Iraq or an AQ killing US Ambassador?
     
  4. plant

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    Drama queen much ??
     
  5. plant

    plant New Member

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    What you a mind reader now .....give me the lotto numbers lol . Absolutely I would hold them accountable ....if any wrong doing was brought light . We have investigated Benghazi 13 times , all accounts no one was found to have done anything wrong . 13 times ! All it is now is red meat for the tea party & birther crowds .
     
  6. Dutch

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    Ha ha ha, a slip of a tong worthy of Freud... yes, you have investigated Benghazi; now, we will investigate benghazi.
     
  7. plant

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    What ?? Ok .......republicans investigated it as well . All 13 times with the same results 0
     
  8. Dollface

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    Bush gave up on getting OBL. Obama made it a priority therefore Obama gets credit for killing OBL. Wether you like it or not. And yes he was in the room. That also have been de bunked.
     
  9. Dutch

    Dutch Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    With all the roadblocks, stalling, the contempt, the righteous indignation and refusal to cooperate... Hopefully, it'll be different this time. Gowdy is not a man to be trivial with.
     
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    Dutch Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    He was in the room for just the photo-op. Mr. Love, with whom Obama played that night, went on record confirming that. Go ahead and keep debunking Mr. Love :)
     
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    We shall see indeed .
     
  12. RP12

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    Actually no its just more flamebait from you by dropping the race card.
     
  13. goober

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    says the guy with the racist avatar....
     
  14. Koosie

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    How much does this amount to per person? Like 3 cents? I'm sure there is some good to come from giving the person with one of the most stressful jobs on the planet a little leeway for stress relief.
     
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    Obama crying over not getting his way on his battle with the 2nd amendment isnt racist. You have tried this before and failed utterly.. Perhaps you as well shed a few years eh?
     
  16. Denizen

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    On it or under it?
     
  17. Steady Pie

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    Man, you guys need to get over your race issues. Not a single person is still alive from the slavery days, you're not responsible for the sins of your ancestors.

    The rabidly anti-racist are every bit as abhorrent as the rabidly racist. We have the same problem over here. People feel so much false compassion that they tie down the aboriginal people with alcohol restrictions, mountains of welfare, and taxation on the majority who try to make an honest living.

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    But I digress. Presidents will always take several hundred days of vacation time at the taxpayer's expense. That's just how governments work: you place the monopoly of force with a select few individuals and they siphon some of that power off for themselves. Whether it's the inevitable collusion with industry, totalitarian populist reforms, or a few hundred holes of golf - it's going to happen.

    So will people complain. So will racists complain.
     
  18. goober

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    Race based discrimination is still around in the US, in housing, in jobs,in education.
    Affirmative action attempts to redress this but does not remedy it completely.
     
  19. Steady Pie

    Steady Pie Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    As far as I'm concerned people are free to discriminate with their property all they like. Affirmative action is the perfect example of that false compassion I was talking about earlier.

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    In housing the property owner should be able to sell to whoever he wants. If he wants to exclude blacks, whites, Asians, etc - I take no issue.

    In jobs the employer should be able to hire and fire whoever he wants, provided both parties agree to the employment contract. If he wants to exclude blacks, whites, Asians, etc - I take no issue.

    In education the state should be completely removed from the industry. Public education should be abolished. Owners of schools should decide who gets in. If they want to exclude blacks, whites, Asians, etc - I take no issue.

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    Discrimination is only wrong to the degree with which it involves the use of force.
     
  20. goober

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    Well none of that has anything to do with the American Culture.
    We have an aspiration to open, fair society.
    We believe in the social compact.
    A Business is allowed to exist, to serve the public, and it must serve all the public.
    Your beliefs have no place in the real world.
     
  21. Proust

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    Three million dollars! I have the sneaking suspicion that America still pays many billions of dollars on unnesessary defense. What is 3 mill in golfing trips compared to that. Why is this thread about a prèsident who for unfathomable reasons you seem to despise so much and not about destroying the military establishment that spends much more than a piddly 3 mill. Bit less deadly too.
     
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    Remember that right wing howler about Obama's 200 million $ a day trip (10 days = 2 billion$) to India in 2010? He took 3000 people in his entourage! You gotta hand it to these guys though, as soon as one BS balloon gets popped they send up another one - no shame, no embarrassment. Even a cursory glance through Snopes, FactCheck or Politifact shows that Barack has taken far fewer vacation days than St. Ronald or The War President. Of course we all know fact check organizations are all part of the liberal conspiracy to suppress the truth but nonetheless......
     
  23. Steady Pie

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    As in, my values don't serve yours. Neither do yours mine.

    Not an American, not all that concerned with American culture, although I think aspects of it are pretty neat.
     
  24. Mac-7

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    We still had an economy when Reagan was president.

    The obama economy sucks.

    For him and his estranged wife to lavish tax dollars on themselves while so many Americans are suffering is obscene.
     
  25. Nat Turner

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    Mac, is English your first language? You might want to go buy a dictionary (maybe from Conservapedia!) Seriously.) and look up the word 'estranged'. I know that it must grate to be lectured on English by a young black person but I am only interested in your growth as a person.

    Your President and the First Lady have not 'lavished' any more tax dollars on themselves that past presidents on average. And why not take my suggestion and look up the number of vacation days past presidents have taken until this point in their 2nd term. Didn't think you would but I can hope.
     

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