Christians should understand how the non religious feel

These are by and large Marxists we're conversing with. "Religion is the opiate of the masses" and all that jazz. Deceit is their modus operandi. The United States is a secular state. They know it,...we all know it. The deeper agenda is the elimination of all religious practices and freedoms, chiefly Christianity. This makes them enemies of the state of course as the 1st Amendment is quite clear regarding impeding the free exercise of religion and abridging the freedom of speech. They do of course have every right to complain and whine about how "Christianity" is ruining their lives...and we have to tolerate it. However calls to eliminate and impede the free exercise of religion is in fact un-Constitutional.

 

per you, "they're just collecting money to build ever more lavish church buildings and tell their flock how to vote"? yes, please show me evidence of this widespread practice of Churches telling their flock which ballots to check yes/no on, and evidence that that they do "just" that.

 

Shhh... That would violate their tax exempt status. Keep it on the lowdown, K?

 

eh, I think you're exaggerating it. So far as I can see it's just people with distorted perceptions. In my life experience, the vast majority of people who say these kinds of things are students with those cardboard-sign slogans.

 

If you think that's not happening, you're either in denial, or willfully overlooking reality.

 

yes, those of us who don't hold with genocidal world flooding supernatural megalomaniacs, talking snakes, unicorns, and the walking dead have 'distorted percpetions'. well spotted!

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they certainly tell their flock how to vote here, and this in an atheist majority nation.

someone's having a lend of you, I think

 

It sounds like you're speaking from ignorance. Since you have no source for this supposedly rampant problem of churches being purely political, I can only assume you've got some hear say - super reliable.

 

So according to you ALL nonreligious believe they're being oppressed and forced to participate in the Christian religion? Rofl

 

There is a major difference between giving information and allowing people to make their own choice, and using laws to force your religion on people.

The most common reason for laws against same sex marriage........The bible says it's wrong.


How many states have laws that require Christian prayers be said during school events?


How many Christians demand that private stores put on christman decorations and say merry christman, even if the owners are not christian? And call it a "war on christmas" and claim their religious rights are being infringed upon whenever someone tells them to go (*)(*)(*)(*) themselves.

 

I suggest you are mistaken as to what can be banned and what cannot; Gay marriage is a case in point. While I feel the gov't has no interest in what is, at its heart, a contract between individuals, it is still not legal in my state for gays to marry.

 

Substance laws, alcohol laws, prostitution laws, gambling laws. Lots of exceptions to your reasoning.

 

Where is the right to life for the convict on death row? I'll reiterate something I said earlier in this thread: laws are a reflection of morality: they reflect the lowest moral level acceptable to a society. Our society has plenty of laws where the state has no compelling interest.

 

The compelling interest in any of the laws written by a legislative body is the subsequent cash flow that the particular legislation will either provide to the State or would potentially take away from the State.

 

I did not say that God is specific to a time and place.

God is pleased when we act morally according to the time and place we live. He is pleased because that means we have placed the long term well being of others before our own short term interest.

 

It will be soon. One way or another.

 

He has surrendered it by (in all likelihood) murdering somebody.

Then whatever laws you are referring ought to be repealed, either by the legislative body that passed them, or a Court.

 

Know the future now, huh?

 

In this particular case, it doesn't take a psychic to see the writing on the wall.

 

Well, I look around at my walls and don't see any writing on them. Do you perhaps have a lot of children in your home who are uncontrollable and amuse themselves by writing on the walls?

 

Relationships shouldn't be a one way street.

 

Wow! Such a profound revelation.

 

Interesting. Perhaps you see it as one religion imposing themselves on you, yet the secularists are doing what they can to purge religion from American society.

 

Maybe his is one of those "pot" and "kettle" things?

 

It's not an obvious thing to everyone. I've been in several one way relationships before I came to this realization.

If faith should be respected, then so should the non belief be respected as well.

All too often, the faithful will not respect the non-believers, which causes resentment and hostility, and it becomes a never ending circular argument.

 

Perhaps. I've seen many of these types. "Oh the religious people are after me!" Well in all reality they are at each others throats.