National Guard Not Welcome At San Francisco LGBT Pride Weekend. But Manning is

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  1. texmaster

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    Let me break this down for all the far left nutballs and the sad attempts at justifying bypassing the Constitutional amendment process by pretending the Constitution can be bastardized to include homosexuality when it is never ever EVER mentioned anywhere in it.

    Slavery was abolished by a Constitutional amendment forever putting a ban on racial discrimination in the Constitution paving the way for eliminating voting restrictions by race with another amendment. These 2 amendments gave precedent (a word the far left nutballs on this subject simply cannot fathom) to eliminate racial bias not only in marriage but in schools, business and buses.

    Why? Because race is something we are born with. It can be genetically tested for. It cannot change, ever. Not at a press conference or an announcement at an awards show.

    Now let's look at the far left's religious fundamentalism of homosexuality.

    It has no amendments to its name. Not one. It is never mentioned anywhere in the Constitution. It has no legal precedence ANYWHERE because its never mentioned ANYWHERE in the Constitution.

    When race wasn't mentioned they pursued a constitutional amendment.
    But the far left isn't honest enough to admit that is the avenue for pursuing gay marriage because despite all the lies that the public is with them they would never get an amendment passed and they know it.

    So, all they have left is to lie about laws written 150 years ago pretending that without ever mentioning homosexuality it somehow is magically included because deep down they hate the Constitution and all the processes keeping them from hijacking the country's will so they find their activist judges to lie about its contents knowing full well homosexuality is never mentioned anywhere in the very document they claim to hold dear.



    When a black man can hold a press conference and announce he is white and people believe him enough to make laws protecting his new choice perhaps then we can take your religious fundamentalism belief in homosexuality seriously.
     
  2. rahl

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    lol, it's perfectly obvious who the embarrassment is tex


    Lol, post the lie tex. Don't be scared.
    I've never been dishonest. Homosexuality, specifically same sex marriage, is covered by the 14th amendment. It's why you keep,losing in court.
     
  3. SFJEFF

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    Then why are you posting in this thread? You should go to whereever far left nutballs post waiting breathlessly to hear from far right wing nutballs.


    And as we keep pointing out- marriage is not ever mentioned anywhere in the Constitution.

    Yet we all have a Constitutional right to marriage.

    Which is just pointing out the first strawman in your post.

    Let us know when you read any of the court decisions that have found that bans on same gender marriage are unconstitutional, as violations of their due process right to marriage and equal treatment to heterosexual couples.

    Here is an excerpt for you to read...

    It is well-established that “the Constitution protects persons, not groups,” Adarand
    Constructors, Inc. v. Pena, 515 U.S. 200, 227 (1995), so regardless of possible future events
    affecting the larger community, my task under federal law is to decide the claims presented
    by the plaintiffs in this case now, applying the provisions in the Fourteenth Amendment as
    interpreted by the Supreme Court in cases such as Loving, Romer, Lawrence and Windsor.
    Because my review of that law convinces me that plaintiffs are entitled to the same treatment
    as any heterosexual couple, I conclude that the Wisconsin laws banning marriage between
    same-sex couples are unconstitutional.


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    Well Tex is sitting at his computer smelling fear.....so I think you may be on to something.
     
  4. Liberalis

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    No. Racial discrimination in marriage was struck down by SCOTUS. Furthermore, the equal protection clause of the 14th amendment at issue here does not mention race. Your point is irrelevant because equal protection applies to more than just race. Period.

    No such amendment is necessary.

    It does not have to in order to protect the rights of gay men and women.

    No amendment is necessary. The 14th amendment already offers a clear answer on the topic. 59% of Americans support same-sex marriage. The social shifts have been unprecedented. You are simply living with your head in the sand. I wish I could see the look on your face when SCOTUS strikes down same-sex marriage bans in the next 2 years.
     
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    I will just point out that segregation lasted a LOT longer. So, if it's possible to have racial bias struck down but maintain segregation, then it seems that we could just as easily maintain segregation when it comes to marriage - since interracial marriage is not in the Constitution.

    And I will just note that the Constitution doesn't mention segregation or desegregation, either.

    Which amendment played a role in ending segregation and allowing interracial marriage? The 14th - which mentions neither one.

    Put that in your pipe and smoke it.

    :deadhorse:

    Did I not say that the Constitution fails to mention homosexuality? Yes, I very much did. Why is it so easy for you to lie about what others have or haven't said?

    Interracial marriage has no amendment history, either - that's the similarity.

    Come back when you have a new argument, and not just repetition of the failed ones.
     
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    Heck- marriage is not mentioned anywhere in the Constitution- yet there are around a dozen rulings that declare that marriage is an individual right.

    Tex is just stomping his feet and putting his fingers in his ears.
     
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    Interracial marriage involves a man and a woman. Gay marrriage does not.
     
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    Martian soil is red, the moons is not.
     
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    Nice observation.
     
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    The Amazing Sam's Ego Banned at Members Request

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    what does that mean?

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    The fallacy in your arguement is you are assuming that the 2 relationships are equivalent to each other, or on the same level.
     
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    I also wanted to post something moronic and totally irrelevant, just like the post I quoted of yours.


    What fallacy?
     
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    Interracial marriage can involve a man and a man or a woman and a woman.

    And on point- marriage is not mentioned anywhere in the Constitution.

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    The bigotry inherent in your argument is that you are assuming that the 2 relationships are not equlivalent to each other.
     
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    I am not a bigot. I do not hate gay people. I simply believe their relationship is morally unnatural and wrong.

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    Why are you calling my arguement bigoted?
     
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    I was pretty clear about it
    The bigotry inherent in your argument is that you are assuming that the 2 relationships are not equlivalent to each other.

    To me, that is as bigoted as saying that a marriage between two Jews is not the equivalent of a marriage between two Christians.

    Or that a marriage between two blacks is not on the same level as a marriage between two whites.

    Or that love between two women is not at the same level as love between a man and woman.

    You of course have your own opinion- but yeah- I find that argument bigoted.
     
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    I do not believe gays are inferior.
    People who believe interracial marriage is wrong believe the other race is inferior.

    Huge difference.
     
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    No- the people who believed interracial marriage is wrong believed that inter-racial marriage was not only inferior to marriage between whites- they thought it was morally, ethically and scientifically wrong.
     
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    That's not what the word 'fallacy' means. The error in your reply is that you think I'm making a comparison that I'm not. I was refuting another person's ridiculous argument about the Constitution and marriage. Try to keep up.

    That said, I will affirm that I do consider the relationships equivalent and on the same level. Calling that a 'fallacy' indicates to me that you aren't worthy of my time or consideration, because you have no idea what you're talking about.
     
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    Actually, you clearly do believe gay people are inferior, since you take the self-righteous position that they are morally unnatural and wrong. The latter implies the former.

    As for the accusation that your statements are bigoted, I do find that you cling stubbornly to your own opinions and prejudices, ignoring any new information that might cause you to rethink your position. So I think the accusation has merit.
     
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    Excuse me as spokesperson for the Far left ,we do not want to be associated with the LGBT crap ,they are actually ,extreme Right-wing Middle class radical Liberal Scum !

    As their calls for the Carve up of California ,and the setting up of a "gay Homeland " attests yes ,Communalist separatist =LGBTQWERTY!

    Sorry ,LGBTIQ ,Sorry LGBT ,sorry ,Middle class gay and lesbian Rights Movement!

    Nothing Working Class or leftwing about it!
     
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    What is a "liberal "Left" ,Nothing leftwing or Liberal about OBAMA!

    Anti Democratic ,Tyrant of Wall Street that Rape's and Pillages the National treasury ,Well ,yes he is a Liberal ,Which is a Right-Wing Pro-Capitalist Philosophy!
     

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