Obama is todays Chamberlain

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  1. logical1

    logical1 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Most people probably know about Chamberland the PM of England before WWII broke out. He flew to Germany and he and Hitler signed a paper that basically said Germany would not go to war or take over any more territory. There is the famous photo of Chamberland in front of the plane he flew back to London stating-------------"peace in our time" while waving the paper he and Hitler signed. Of course it was just a worthless piece of paper since WWII started in less than a year.

    Now unfortunately we have Obama. He seems to think that his smile and good intensions will prevent murdering muslim terrorist from attacking anyone. Of course reality has proved Obama totally wrong. ISIS has taken over a large area in Iraq, and lately have hacked the heads of two reporters. Obama simply does not seem to want to admit that there are murdering muslim terrorist in the world that hate us and want to kill us. They have even told us so. But the pig headed Obama refuses to admit it. His whole admin simply refuses to admit WE ARE AT WAR WITH ISIS!!!

    When will this fool admit that we are at war with the murdering muslim terrorist ISIS??????
     
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    We aren't at war with ISIS.. The Arab world is at war with ISIS and all terror organizations like them.
     
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    Jonsa Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    When will congress get off their arses and do their job and declare this war you are itching for?
    Or do you think Obama should act all imperial again and simply declare it on congress' behalf?

    You are familiar with how your government works, aren't you?
     
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    Even though I'll bring it up at times, in reality Chamberlain wasn't that bad. I mean really, what's so weak or injust about giving a nation-state land recently taken away from it arbitrarily, where the populace identify with the given nation/state?

    Imagine if NATO lost a war and the winners decided to make Quebec a free state, with New England as part of it. If 20 years later the US said we want New England back, what would be so absurd, injust, or weak about doing it?

    The only real issue was that the Czechs had heavily fortified their border with Germany, and now Germany was getting that heavily fortified border. The Czechs had genuine security concerns, but the German claims on the Sudetenland were far from fabricated.
     
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    Conservative Pussssy!
     
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    That actually makes sense, but a strict rule of PC culture is you can't say anything Hitler did was anything but totally wrong.
     
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    Isn't he bombing ISIS? Hasn't he sent aid to those that oppose them? Hasn't he increased the numbers of US military advisers to the Iraqi Army? Hasn't he just sent more troops to protect the embassy? Hasn't he spoken out against them more than once? I don't recall any statements about seeking peace with them, as a matter of fact didn't he say today that we will punish them for their barbaric actions.
    Oh, if we are at war isn't it kind of un American to try and undercut the Commander in Chief. I seem remember it was when people criticized President Bush.
     
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    logical1 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    But Obama nor any of his toadies will admit to the fact that we at war with muslim terrorist!!!!
     
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    In your estimation, what percentage of Muslims are terrorists or likely terrorists?
     
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    In a world where we could not only kill the enemy but the entire places they live... what's the damned rush to go to war?

    I suspect that defense contractors are itching for whatever they believe will bring them business; they're money making machines... I don't blame them for that. But it's darned such worth considering what we as a nation will do with our lives and treasure.

    Should we continue in our role as world policeman, or should we be a reasonable amount more focused upon what makes America better itself? We have been over-extended financially, technically and logistically for MANY YEARS. We CANNOT afford to dive into everything we think we could. We will literally destroy ourselves, if we do that.

    So I ask LOUDLY:

    What are we REALLY willing to INVEST in, as a people??!!
     
  11. Tobaccoroad

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    Winston Churchill was a fount of wit and wisdom. He once chided Chamberlain saying "You may not be interested in war, but war is interested in you" Someone needs to inform our Muslim sympathizing dear leader of that premise.

    FDR's address to the Congress declaring war on Japan did not include one reference to the USA's needing a coalition.

    Redstate found some of Obama's remarks made right after the first 9/11 attacks in which he empathized with the planes hijackers.

    God help America.
     
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    We were at peace 9/11/2001, as well

    "Mr. Vice President, Mr. Speaker, Members of the Senate, of the House of Representatives:

    Yesterday, December 7, 1941 - a date which will live in infamy - the United States of America was suddenly and deliberately attacked by naval and air forces of the Empire of Japan.

    The United States was at peace with that nation, and, at the solicitation of Japan, was still in conversation with its government and its Emperor looking toward the maintenance of peace in the Pacific.

    Indeed, one hour after Japanese air squadrons had commenced bombing in the American island of Oahu, the Japanese ambassador to the United States and his colleague delivered to our Secretary of State a formal reply to a recent American message. While this reply stated that it seemed useless to continue the existing diplomatic negotiations, it contained no threat or hint of war or of armed attack.

    It will be recorded that the distance of Hawaii from Japan makes it obvious that the attack was deliberately planned many days or even weeks ago. During the intervening time, the Japanese government has deliberately sought to deceive the United States by false statements and expressions of hope for continued peace.

    The attack yesterday on the Hawaiian Islands has caused severe damage to American naval and military forces. I regret to tell you that very many American lives have been lost. In addition, American ships have been reported torpedoed on the high seas between San Francisco and Honolulu.

    Yesterday, the Japanese government also launched an attack against Malaya.

    Last night, Japanese forces attacked Hong Kong.

    Last night, Japanese forces attacked Guam.

    Last night, Japanese forces attacked the Philippine Islands.

    Last night, the Japanese attacked Wake Island.

    This morning, the Japanese attacked Midway Island.

    Japan has, therefore, undertaken a surprise offensive extending throughout the Pacific area. The facts of yesterday and today speak for themselves. The People of the United States have already formed their opinions and well understand the implications to the very life and safety of our nation.

    As Commander-in-Chief of the Army and Navy, I have directed that all measures be taken for our defense.

    But always will our whole nation remember the character of the onslaught against us.

    No matter how long it may take us to overcome this premeditated invasion, the American people in their righteous might, will win through to absolute victory.

    I believe that I interpret the will of the Congress and of the People when I assert that we will not only defend ourselves to the uttermost, but will make it very certain that this form of treachery shall never again endanger us.

    Hostilities exist. There is no blinking at the fact that our people, our territory, and our interests are in grave danger.

    With confidence in our armed forces - with the unbounding determination of our People - we will gain the inevitable triumph - so help us God.

    I ask that the Congress declare that since the unprovoked and dastardly attack by Japan on Sunday, December 7, 1941 a state of War has existed between the United States and the Japanese empire. "
     
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    And little Georgie was yesterday's Hitler.
     
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    No.

    He was a drunken warmonger who had no skills in running a country whatsoever. As soon as the war was over, he was booted in one of the most spectacular landslide losses in UK political history.

    A fount of wisdom? Was that why he wanted to invade the Soviet Union right after the end of the second world war?
     
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    The public irritates me on these issues. The constant cycle of war frenzy/war regret is tiresome.

    It's like a sick hookey pokey. I'm sure to spend the next few months getting barraged by people saying I want to wait till innocent Americans are killed before we act, and then 4 years from now listening to the same folks acting like they never supported going back into that quagmire in the first place.

    Don't make the same mistake again.
     
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    Chamberlain was simply stupid...I really believe Obama is venal. He has more enthusiasm in protecting his thug bureaucrats when they abuse Americans than he demonstrates fighting barbarians.
     
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    The demographics revealed that Germans in Czechoslovakia were less than 1/3 of the total population. As soon as the west caved to Hitler the areas with heavy German ethnic populations promptly expelled the Czech population.
     
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    Wild or domestic Muslims? (wild = Muslims governed by other Muslims or living in countries like Nigeria with large Muslim minorities, Domestic meaning Muslims in western democracies forced to obey laws) In the later maybe 10% and in the former massively more. A better question would be to ask what percent enables through silence or overt support terror and that is vast.
     
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    Come on...you can do it...and returned to office when?
     
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    Where are the Churchill's, Patton's, MacArthur's, FDR's and Eisenhower's of this decade? We need them now as much as we did in the 1930's - 40's.
     
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    They went with Bush...today's Obama appointed senior officers simply do not seem to have what it takes.

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    Another want-to-hate-rape Obama Nutjob. Obama is HORRIBLE president, but the War Hawks find opportunity to hit on any angle. Its like these people get pleasure from hating Obama. Obama is already sending boots on the ground(which is a terrible idea) and Neocon skeletons want full mobilization to support the Military industrial complex who are slugging F-35 from Obama cronnies wasting taxpayer money.

    Seriously, what are we to do in Iraq? Get between the gunfire of Sunni and Shias? Fund a ground of terrorists? Nuke them? Nuke them seems to most viable option if war was unavoidable. I hope the radiation spreads to ignite every Hajji f***, every global warming causing burden, and Israel.
     

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