Chivalry is Dying While We Praise Non-Traditional Relations

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  1. DixieJohn

    DixieJohn New Member

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    I regret to admit that the values of the modern world have been twisted in a strange way.
    The whole world goes after Putin when he being a gentleman takes care of the Chinese first lady. Everybody gossips about his uncouth behavior and a macho move. People evaluate his move as inappropriate.
    But at the same time famous people proclaiming their homosexuality are met with joy, approval and applause.
    And I being myself a gentleman feel that world is losing common sense and courtesy.
     
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    wgabrie Well-Known Member Donor

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    Come Don Quixote there are dragons!

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    Don quijote [Public domain], by Bkz. (Own work), from Wikimedia Commons
     
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    Dutch Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Join the club, pal.
     
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    I would not be have been comfortable with it if it were me, let alone it is extremely uncomfortable and inappropriate as a political leader.

    However all of these things are fairly minor and I agree that people are making a bigger deal out of it than it should be.

    As for chivalry? It may be, but for those of us that have it we reign supreme with the most beautiful women!
     
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    What is so great about Traditional Values?

    We used to burn people as Witches as well.

    AboveAlpha
     
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    I am afraid that we both have made the widespread mistake of generalization.
    Mine was assuming that all traditional values are always good. And while I cannot agree that burning witches might be defined as value, I admit that some of the values have become out of date. Still, traditions of treating other people with respect and care are with no doubt among those that will hardly die out. Unless we decide that in our society everybody cares about themselves only. But the society as we know it would most probably die out... Oh... Maybe, that is exactly what is happening right now...
     
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    snakestretcher Banned

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    No 'gentleman' worthy of being called such would be so gauche as to call himself one. That is for someone else to point out. 'Decorum' is the word.

    http://dallasbelle.com/2013/09/21/d...lls-himself-a-gentleman-is-just-the-opposite/
     
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    John Squire Banned

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    I don't see the connection between the two statements in the OP?

    What is the connection?
     
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    Nobody would have mentioned it had he done that in another country.
    He breached Chinese etiquette, simple as that. But I agree there are worse things to get riled up about
     
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    Chivalry isn't dead. It's just that certain feminists want it both ways.

    For example, some women are apparently offended if you hold the door for them, but they don't typically reject you paying for their meal when on a date.

    There are other inconsistencies as well, like how family courts favor women in custody battles or how the military handles the splitting of benefits for female enlisted vs. male enlisted after a divorce.

    I don't see any particular issue with being more accepting of gay people however. A lot of the world still treats them like criminals.
     
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    Putin's Approval Rating Hits All-Time High at 87%

    http://mashable.com/2014/08/06/putin-approval-rating/

    That is about 3x what Obama is currently running at.

    Is there any way we can create a leadership exchange program, even a couple of months would be nice.
     
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    Contrary to the modern take on chivalry from books, TV, and movies, chivalry had little to do with male female relations.

    Original Tenants of Chivalry:


    Believe the Church's teachings and observe all the Church's directions.
    Defend the Church.
    Respect and defend all weaknesses.
    Love your country.
    Show no mercy to the Infidel. Do not hesitate to make war with them. (sounds like modern day ISIS doesn't it, eeek)
    Perform all your feudal duties as long as they do not conflict with the laws of God.
    Never lie or go back on one's word.
    Be generous to everyone.
    Always and everywhere be right and good against evil and injustice.
     
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    Spooky Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    As with many things in society, words take on different meanings over time. Chivalry would be a good example of that.

    Have you never studied linguistics, even at the most basic levels?
     
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    Wait so things can change as we advance? OMG!!!!!

    Fact of the matter is when we had no more use for the old tenants Chivalry for which I posted and they were out dated, it changed didn't it.

    As pointed out already, the actions were not the norm for Chinese customs. So I guess the Chinese are all feminists.
     
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    perdidochas Well-Known Member

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    Source?

    There are many versions of the Code of Chivalry:
    Here from the Song of Roland:


    (the Song of Roland being an 8th century French epic poem)
     
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    Code of Chivalry of Order of Santiago

    1.- To believe in everything the church teaches and observe all Its commandments.
    2.-To protect the Church
    3.- You will have respect for the weak and defend them.
    4.- Thou shalt love the country in which you were born
    5.- No retreat before the enemy
    6.- You will make the infidels a war without mercy.
    7.- You fulfill your feudal duties, if they don´t contradict the law of God.
    8.- Don´t lie and be faithful to your word.
    9.- You will be generous.
    10.- You keep the good facing the injustice and evil.

    I never give up.. If someone whom we thought they were strong...show their weakness... if someone whom must fight, they preferred capitulate... I stand firm. If there are only one hundred, I´ll be between them, if there are ten, I´ll be the tenth.. if only remains one.. will be my honor.

    The knights disappeared with the hegemony of the bourgeois and liberal people ...people wanted to do business instead of killing muslims and defile mosques for Christ´s glory!

    navas-tolosa1.jpg

    Yes, today there aren´t Knights...
     

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