FACT: Atheists are Lost

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  1. Whaler17

    Whaler17 Well-Known Member

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    A fetus is obviously a human being, there is no question about that, but they claim the fetus is somehow not a "person".
     
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    The fetus is human...it is NOT a person nor a human being.

    Now, IF you want it declared a person or a human being then it has the responsibilities of a person. It cannot attack another human(the woman it's in) without her consent.
    And the woman can apply self-defense to it as she would to any other HUMAN BEING/ PERSON. In other words she can stop this "person" from harming her just as YOU have the right to stop another person from harming YOU.
     
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    Well you are obviously wrong, but this isn't the forum to explain to you why. I'll just as you, if the fetus isn't a human being, how can the killing of that fetus by someone who attacks the child in utero's mother be tried for homicide (which we all know is the killing of a human being). Read the UVVA, Unborn victims of Violence Act, a federal law that supports trying these killers for murder which is intentional homicide.

    As far as your responsibilities nonsense goes, you think an infant has these responsibilities? Aren't they persons? Her consent was granted at the point of conception, unless she was raped. A pregnancy isn't an attack.
     
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    We are off topic....refer to the Abortion Forum where your questions will be addressed(and probably have been).....and I am not wrong.
     
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    You should do the same Skippy.
     
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    Be happy to Fluffy :)
     
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    Good punkin.
     
  8. FoxHastings

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    If that's the best you have(and so far from what I've seen, it is) then maybe it's good you haven't appeared yet in the Abortion Forum.
     
  9. Whaler17

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    I have handed all of you pro abortion folks your asses for the past several years over there, taking a break.
     
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    Wolverine New Member Past Donor

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    Some Christians believe Jesus was the son of god, others do not.
    Some Christians believe that Jesus literally died, others do not.
    Some Christians believe the Bible is the literal word, others do not.

    If you want to talk about lost and contradictory, look at Christianity.
     
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    :roflol: :roflol: :roflol: And no evidence to back that up....what a shame......:)
     
  12. Dood

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    I'm glad to see a non-believer acknowledge Christians are free-thinkers.
     
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    So... when Christians don't have the same ideas across the spectrum, they are free-thinkers, but when atheists do it, we're lost? LoL.
     
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    Wolverine New Member Past Donor

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    lol

    I acknowledge the irony of you claiming atheists are "lost" (as if we are all the same or something LOL), while at the same time, claim that believers in a angled and mangled religion are "free thinkers".

    Get your (*)(*)(*)(*) straight.
     
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    You are right, I could have more accurately stated that Christians CAN be free-thinkers, certainly not all are. But I think we all understand that absolutes are always incorrect.

    Either way, whether you intended it to be complimentary or derogatory doesn't negate the fact that you acknowledged Christians are more complex than the average Atheist would like to acknowledge.

    My (*)(*)(*)(*) is generally too long for it to stay straight in the average toilet. Not much I can do about that.
     
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    There would be less complexity if the book that made the religion was better written.
     
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    That's interesting. I think the Bible is remarkably well written. It invokes thought, that's much more valuable than binary commands.
     
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    Christianity is a complex mass of contradictions and illogical conclusions.

    Complex is not synonymous with positive.
     
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    That's interesting. You should be participating in the tough questions thread then. A whole lot of thought is invoked over there.
     
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    I agree if we're trying!... to live as Jesus said we should. All we can do is hope he and his Father Jehovah find favor in us. As I tell christians, just because one's baptized and “believes”. Doesn't mean they're going to make it. We KNOW, if we're truly NOT living in a way pleasing to those two. Even if we Syked ourselves into believing straddling the fence is ok. peace
     
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    Like God himself, for example :rolleyes:
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    Look up the definition of context, then read the entire bible and study the context of the passages you currently consider contradictory. I hope you find enlightenment.
     
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    No, he's your imaginary friend, not mine, and nothing to do with your semantic floundering. As for the sarcasm, that's very unChristian of you.
     
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    How many angels were present at the tomb?
     
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    Is this critical to the understanding of Jesus' teachings?
     
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    Wolverine New Member Past Donor

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    Ah, apologetics. The Bible is supposed to be the literal word of god, why does the literal word of god contradict itself?
     
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